Individual cars

[Blitz]

We were talking about this at ace.

Heres the Marrakesh brown M3.

http://www.suprestige.com/showroom/bmw- ... rtible-dct

Java green

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=516929

[Kos]

thats fucking sexy

[Blitz]

Barbera Red

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpost.p ... stcount=36

[pony]

Those are real marmite colours. I dont like any of them colours. Whoever buys them if they own it for short-term will be difficult to sell on.

Give me a E46 M3 any day of the week over the fat, ugly E92/E93 with its non-driver centric interior and those small climate control/heater control buttons (compared to E46) and you cannot argue with that multiple award-winning straightsix. NA Straight-sixes are synomous with BMW.

I noticed i think black/white are both the new "vogue" colours now compared to grey/silver/black some years ago.

[Ajsingh]

Later NA 6 pots from bmw also suffer fron misfiting and various other faults that a bmw should not have at only being 2/3 years old...

Yes the e46 s54 is a great and powerful engine but u cannot ignore that 4 litre v8 which sounds and drives soo good in the e9x.. Its a lovely car to drive. U cant beat the sound of a V8!

[bss325i]

The E9x M3 is a serious weapon where as an E46 M3 is a fast car.

[pony]

The S54 in the M3 whilst a great engine

http://www.worldcarfans.com/10812301585 ... ix-retires

The S54 won it (International Engine of the Year 3 - 4 litre) every year during E46 M3 product life cycle 2001 - 2006 even trumping the infamous Porsche flat-six 996 (Carrera/Turbo), Ferrari's high-revving screaming V8 360 Modena. It has a specific output 105-6bhp/litre in regular M3 (Coupe/CS), 110bhp/litre in M3 CSL. Where the M3 V8 still produces "just" 105bhp/litre. The V10 in the M5 and M6 is 101-2bhp/litre. This was at a time when:

Ferrari/BMW/Honda were one of the few manufacturers to break specific output of 100bhp/litre and reach/exceeed 8000rpm
Ferrari/BMW the only manfucaturers with paddle-shift gearbox operation as per F1
Ferrari/BMW the only manufacturers with launch control programs as per F1 at the time
BMW had diff throttle mapping button - i think it was the only manufacturer with this - but not sure?
BMW had 4 exhausts in regular models (introduced on M Coupe/M Roadster/M5) then copied by AMG and most high-performance manufacturers (e.g. Porsche). Back in the day you would only find these 4 exhausts on Ferraris/Masertis.

From magazine reviews and those that know i been told the E46 M3 CSL sounds a "lot" louder than the regular E46 M3 and so much more "better" than the E92 M3 primarily due to its induction noise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internatio ... f_the_Year

There is no getting away from the fact though the V8 is 15kg less mass than the S54 and produces extra 77bhp - very impressive. The S54 is the pinnacle of NA straight six by BMW is it not?

The other thing i wanted to say during the E46 M3 time it completely cleaned up its competition like the E39 M5. The E92 M3 has not - remember the mixed reviews by Autocar when it was launched and when Chris Harris mentioned some buyers cancelled their orders and went for last-of-the line E46 M3 CS. Though admittely the competition is tougher now with E92 M3:

E92 M3 Competition: CLK 63 AMG, RS5, C Class Coupe AMG, XKR, 997 C2S, Maseerati Grandsporte
E46 M3 Competition: CLK 55 AMG, RS4, XKR, 996 Carrera, Maserati Grand turismo coupe

[bss325i]

Go and test drive an E9x M3 Soni!

You WONT be disappointed!

[Blitz]

I always thought the S65 would be a great engine for an E30 especially due to the weight.

[Rodderz]

A white 4 door for me!

[bss325i]

They are getting cheaper!

http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... ?logcode=p

[pony]

Yep sure are. What is funny is when ever you buy a new car that has just been launched and live it up (unless you keep it forever), when sold on - the early models as per the link - usually end being the ones with oldest/most miles/most neglected/most owners/distastefully modified etc.

Can you see the E92 M3 becoming a "classic" in 20yrs being the last NA M car?

[bss325i]

Can you see the E92 M3 becoming a "classic" in 20yrs being the last NA M car?

Yes! And for this very reason!

Its the last of the high revving N/A M power cars!

[pony]

Can you see the E92 M3 becoming a "classic" in 20yrs being the last NA M car?

Yes! And for this very reason!

Its the last of the high revving N/A M power cars!

I tell what IS a classic. E46 M3 CSL. Though all of them being tracked/high owners/modifed

The other thing what about E34 M5 LE. LAst M5s with straight-sixes without DSC, last of handbuilt (which is a good thing/bad thing) depending on your view point. Surely a future classic.

[bss325i]

Can you see the E92 M3 becoming a "classic" in 20yrs being the last NA M car?

Yes! And for this very reason!

Its the last of the high revving N/A M power cars!

I tell what IS a classic. E46 M3 CSL. Though all of them being tracked/high owners/modifed

Yes they are a classic.

Not all of them btw, remember i told you that we get a couple in, well one of them has less than 20k on it and is totally standard.

The owner also owns a low mileage Z8 and some other interesting BMW's and Porsches.

[pony]

It is funny alot of CSL owners track their cars. Sport Evolution owners probably did the same back in the 1990s. Can you imagine a Sport Evolution owner tracking their car now?

Yes Z8s - i think hold their value not bad. Porsche 993s good ones like C2S/Turbo much more expensive than 996s as last-of-the air cooled. Great to look at. Horrible interior. 996 has a even more digusting cheap interior which it shared with boxster.

Did you not get to drive the CSL? Or did you mean CS?

[Blitz]

They are getting cheaper!

http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... ?logcode=p

Last time I checked they were about £30K.

Epic bargain!

[bss325i]

Did you not get to drive the CSL? Or did you mean CS?

I did mean CSL and no i haven't driven it on the road.

[pony]

The E36 M3 really is the poor relation.

Somehow you got to get yourself a drive of a CSL. Then you will see S54 is the best

[Low_E30]

Regardless of what one says about the 996, the 996 911 Turbo has to be THE supercar bargain of the moment.... Seriously undervalued and a serious tool...

[pony]

Regardless of what one says about the 996, the 996 911 Turbo has to be THE supercar bargain of the moment.... Seriously undervalued and a serious tool...

Hubba hubba i have an Original Porsche 911 (996) Turbo poster framed at home. Along with (E46 M3 Coupe poster/E46 M3 CSL poster - all Original BMW). I got the Original Porsche 996 Turbo launch brochure when i went Earls Court in 1999. What a thing of beauty it was. I never liked the 996 pre-facelift but as soon as i saw the Turbo at Earls Court - hubba hubba - it was as if God himself created it.

[Low_E30]

Yeah i wasnt a fan of the Boxter type front lights, but in Turbo form they look stunning...

A Widebody C4S has become a serious bargain as well, Turbo body and wheels, similar brakes and suspension... They look so elegant without the big rear spoiler and side vents and full length rear reflective panel....

[pony]

Pacer - this one is for your collection - travel like an executive

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2952407.htm