1M Coupe

[Kieran_n22]

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=527470
They do look very nice! I can imagine me in the white one lol

[adit]

hmm....wouldn't mind a spin

[Jim320i]

Wheels are a bit stupidly big.

[Kieran_n22]

Wheels are a bit stupidly big.

I thought the same! :s

[pony]

I would take a BMW E46 M3 CS ANYDAY over that.
It is not even a PROPER BMW M Car.
The specification horsepower, mass, performance, price are the similar to the E46 M3 when new.
The E46 M3 has one of the all-time great BMW M engines rather than a midly reworked engine from the Z4 3.5 model.

[Kieran_n22]

Its never gonna be as performance like as an E46 M3. Just like the E90 335i can't compare but I hear you can remap them and then they're faster! It's a 1 series the smallest car BMW sell. It can't compare with the M3 like the M3 can't compare with the M5.

[bss325i]

The 1M coupe can lap the ring faster than an E46 M3, this has been done in testing.

The 1M coupe may have a mildly reworked N54 engine (which is not in the mould of an M power NA engine) but all the next M power cars will be FI engine based on mainstream model engines.
The new M5 for example with use a reworked version of the 550i's twin turbo N63 engine and you can be sure that the next F series based M3 will be turbo as well.

The days of NA M power cars will soon be over with the current E9x M3 being the last!

But dont knock these new models until you have tried them!

The E8x 135i is and awesome car standard and with a few tweaks makes for a seriously rapid car that handles brilliant!

As the 1M coupe uses front and rear axles from the E9x M3 including the M differential (variable lock LSD) this will again make for an even better car, especially when the tuners unlock some more power from the tunable engine.

400bhp and matching torque from very low down the rev range (something NA M power engines lacked and is what make for a rapid car!) is easily had already and it wont be long before we are seeing 500bhp out of the N54 engine!

You have to realise that when BMW apply themselves to something, the excel at it be NA tuning (M power engines), emissions (efficient dynamics) or turbo charger technology.

How may turbo engines from other manufactures do you know of the deliver peak torque from a little over idle speed with out any turbo lag all the way to the red line and still have good fuel economy and emissions?

[SDM]

return to form I say, people often forget about the 2002 turbo

[leeparkes]

I think it looks cool...

[George]

By all accounts (prerelease drive by Chris Harris in Evo, and now more recent full drives in Autocar) this is the best/most entertaining M car in ages.

Unfortunately, the large n/a M car is dead.

I would take a BMW E46 M3 CS ANYDAY over that.
It is not even a PROPER BMW M Car.
The specification horsepower, mass, performance, price are the similar to the E46 M3 when new.
The E46 M3 has one of the all-time great BMW M engines rather than a midly reworked engine from the Z4 3.5 model.

I'd expect the new 1 Series M to give the E46 M3 a bit of a spanking.

[ANDY325TOURING]

Wife has her name down for one.....

[pony]

Yep the 1M Coupe is definetely quicker than the E46 M3 around "The Green Hell" as i remember reading this somewhere at the launch that is why i said:

"The specification horsepower, mass, performance, price are the (u)similar(u) to the E46 M3 when new.
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However, the straight-line figures i believe are fairly similar: horsepower/mass/ 0 -62mph/top speed.

As for all the comments about performance the 135i/335i/E46 M3 are all fairly "similar ish" or can be made to be similar/faster....


I am pretty sure it (1M Coupe) will get great reviews.
Styling wise i prefer the E46 M3 HANDS DOWN.
I think the 1M has alot of clever features particularly with some of the aerodynamics and the central instrument cluster has a neat design/plentyful use of alcantra in the interior are all neat touches. Though i hate the fact the interior is not driver centric like the E30/E46.

PS
what is the reason for switching from high-revving NA engined to forced induction is it just simply emissions? I dont see Ferrari doing the same?

Interview with the old boss of BMW M
http://www.usautoparts.net/bmw/models/m3g.htm

[town325i]

The only 1 series i have driven is a 116i it wont set no land speed records but the handling is really good i couldnt fault the way it drove nice quick steering just i found the brakes a bit pants they reminded me of how the brakes are on an e30 doh

[pony]

The only 1 series i have driven is a 116i it wont set no land speed records but the handling is really good i couldnt fault the way it drove nice quick steering just i found the brakes a bit pants they reminded me of how the brakes are on an e30 doh

+1

I had a 116i to borrow for a couple of weeks a few years ago. It was really great fun to drive so much fun. The fly-by-wire throttle also made it quite responsive espeically at low rpm. Couldnt believe a car so common and the base BMW model was so fun. Couldnt get past the styling. The interior was pretty nice bar the driver-centric controls and the traditional 4dial instrument clustor.

[bss325i]

PS
what is the reason for switching from high-revving NA engined to forced induction is it just simply emissions? I dont see Ferrari doing the same?

Emissions and power.

The S54 for example i regarded as being at the limit of what was achievable for an NA 6 cyl and remain reliable and Euro 4 compliant.

[m8782538]

everything is getting smaller CC with turbo's now due to emmissions and fuel consuption, Mainly emmissions regulations, average emmissions across the range etc, I can see the point for general car builders like ford, shitroen and the like, but when it comes to performance cars, exemption should occur, its stupid.