Can I get your thoughts on this e36 please?
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Just found this e36 on the trader, Its not far from where I live so was thinking of going to take a look at it, whats your thoughts and what should I look out for?
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Thats 328i money, if not a 328i sport!
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328's aint worth jack diddly no one wants to pay the fuel bills, the 323 was one of the last E36's to be made hence some very nice examples around with low miles and aint been owned by people who like to drive hard like 328 sport owners.
Plus even though they are actully a 2.5 the name 323 makes people think it will cost less to run than a 325 hence making them worth a tad more as they appeal to more people.
If its very clean then i would say offer £2000, if it had some nice bits then it would be worth around £2500 to the right person but it has pov spec alloys and bumpers
If you willing to wait though you could get the same sorta car for a bag of sand and a monkey
Plus even though they are actully a 2.5 the name 323 makes people think it will cost less to run than a 325 hence making them worth a tad more as they appeal to more people.
If its very clean then i would say offer £2000, if it had some nice bits then it would be worth around £2500 to the right person but it has pov spec alloys and bumpers
If you willing to wait though you could get the same sorta car for a bag of sand and a monkey
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I wouldn’t touch a banged out E36 M3 that’s under £5000 even after fixing all the problems it had it still wouldn’t feel right kinda like finding out your birds ex boyfriend gave her Chlamydia and even though she’s been to the clinic it still makes you feel a bit uneasy

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If you can find a good one for that price thats not hiding anything then fair play but to quote myself i said..........Geeman wrote:So, a '96 sub-100k M3 Evo Saloon with FBMWSH is going to be a dog if it's under £5k...?
I didnt mean i wouldnt touch a cheap M3 full stop just not a ropey one, i recntlysaw one on ebay that sold for £1500pac1982 wrote:I wouldn’t touch a banged out E36 M3 that’s under £5000

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For a proper genuine unmolested car with good history yes its top money but you get what you pay for. I sold my '98 R plate 323 touring a few months ago for £1800 which was 2 years older than this car, same mileage, no leather but only 2 owners inclduing me so based on that its not far off the mark - assuming the car is a proper minter.
On a T plate thats one of the last ones, and if its got full history a full MOT and drives like a new car ( which it should if its been properly looked after ) then it could be worth a punt.
Yes you could get a 10 owner bruv-spec M3 with 150k on the clock for £3k or ropey e46 for that price but if the car is as good as it seems it could be worth the money.
If you're gonna pay top dollar for one you need to be sure that you won't have to spend anything on it at all for at least the next 12 months - so anything like tyres, exhaust etc that might need replacing or ANYTHING that doesn't work needs to come off the price or be fixed by the garage with warranty before you pick it up
Either that or buy a fooked M3 or E46 and spend loads of money time and aggro sorting it out.
On a T plate thats one of the last ones, and if its got full history a full MOT and drives like a new car ( which it should if its been properly looked after ) then it could be worth a punt.
Yes you could get a 10 owner bruv-spec M3 with 150k on the clock for £3k or ropey e46 for that price but if the car is as good as it seems it could be worth the money.
If you're gonna pay top dollar for one you need to be sure that you won't have to spend anything on it at all for at least the next 12 months - so anything like tyres, exhaust etc that might need replacing or ANYTHING that doesn't work needs to come off the price or be fixed by the garage with warranty before you pick it up
Either that or buy a fooked M3 or E46 and spend loads of money time and aggro sorting it out.

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I'm hoping that the one I'm going to see tomorrow is a good 'un. It's a bog-standard saloon, so I'm hoping it's not been pushed too hard for most of it's life.
I AM prepared to be disappointed though!
I AM prepared to be disappointed though!
cheers rob thats what im thinking, id rather pay top dollar for a mint e36 rather than pay the same for a ropey e46, all the reviews ive read for the e36 seem to be good, then i checked the e46 reviews and loads of people had numerous problems with them.

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Spot on mate - I was the same when I was looking around for mine.
Makes me laugh when people go on about how cheap they can get cars for - 9 times out of 10 their "bargain" needs tyres/servicing/repairing just to bring it up to the standard of a normal car.
A good late low mileage E36 which needs nothing doing to it is still a very capable car and worth good money - you can drive it and not worry about having to spend money fixing it before you can enjoy it.
or you can buy a ropey sh1tter for less and have all the aggro of sorting it out.
I know which I'd do.
Makes me laugh when people go on about how cheap they can get cars for - 9 times out of 10 their "bargain" needs tyres/servicing/repairing just to bring it up to the standard of a normal car.
A good late low mileage E36 which needs nothing doing to it is still a very capable car and worth good money - you can drive it and not worry about having to spend money fixing it before you can enjoy it.
or you can buy a ropey sh1tter for less and have all the aggro of sorting it out.
I know which I'd do.

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what do you smoke? 328's are not juicy. Does your 4 pot E30 give 32mpg?pac1982 wrote:328's aint worth jack diddly no one wants to pay the fuel bills, the 323 was one of the last E36's to be made hence some very nice examples around with low miles and aint been owned by people who like to drive hard like 328 sport owners.
Plus even though they are actully a 2.5 the name 323 makes people think it will cost less to run than a 325 hence making them worth a tad more as they appeal to more people.
If its very clean then i would say offer £2000, if it had some nice bits then it would be worth around £2500 to the right person but it has pov spec alloys and bumpers
If you willing to wait though you could get the same sorta car for a bag of sand and a monkey
I looked at a 328 Sport in silver with 85k miles and in great condition for £2k. This is way over priced and 328's are a little juicy, but no more than most cars if you drive in Economy mode and not in Sport mode all the time. I'd much rather have one of them for that money!

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I think your the one smoking mate, 328's not juicy??? my 1998 E36 323 used to have an average mpg of 18mpg according to the OBC so i dread to think what mpg I would get in a 328 (notice i said "I")Simon13 wrote:
what do you smoke? 328's are not juicy. Does your 4 pot E30 give 32mpg?
And in answer to your question no my 4 pot does not get 32 mpg my best has been 38mpg on a nice run, and thats without trying really hard to get good MPG.
Never worked out an average but i can assure you my average mpg is far better than the average MPG i would get out of a E36 328.
So what is it your smoking crack or opium??

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There is so much sh!te in this statement I don't know where to begin!pac1982 wrote:328's aint worth jack diddly no one wants to pay the fuel bills, the 323 was one of the last E36's to be made hence some very nice examples around with low miles and aint been owned by people who like to drive hard like 328 sport owners.
Plus even though they are actully a 2.5 the name 323 makes people think it will cost less to run than a 325 hence making them worth a tad more as they appeal to more people.
If its very clean then i would say offer £2000, if it had some nice bits then it would be worth around £2500 to the right person but it has pov spec alloys and bumpers
If you willing to wait though you could get the same sorta car for a bag of sand and a monkey
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You could at least trydarkchild wrote:There is so much sh!te in this statement I don't know where to begin!pac1982 wrote:328's aint worth jack diddly no one wants to pay the fuel bills, the 323 was one of the last E36's to be made hence some very nice examples around with low miles and aint been owned by people who like to drive hard like 328 sport owners.
Plus even though they are actully a 2.5 the name 323 makes people think it will cost less to run than a 325 hence making them worth a tad more as they appeal to more people.
If its very clean then i would say offer £2000, if it had some nice bits then it would be worth around £2500 to the right person but it has pov spec alloys and bumpers
If you willing to wait though you could get the same sorta car for a bag of sand and a monkey

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not by a long way.Geeman wrote:So, a '96 sub-100k M3 Evo Saloon with FBMWSH is going to be a dog if it's under £5k...?
i know someone who bought an 80k mile evo saloon, in estoril, is superb condition for £1500!
ok, so it was a right place, right time moment with some luck thrown in, but dont assume that all cheap ones will be shite, and likewise dont assume because somethings priced high it's good!
mine was what would be classed on here as a cheap sheddy high mileage one, but i personally know the previous two owners who looked after it properly. it might not me mint, but it's tidy enough, great to drive and has been faultless in the past 7000 miles ive done in it.
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i don't smoke thanks but my OBC in 328 reads 31.4 mpg and i'm not the only person out there with a 328 getting that kind of MPGpac1982 wrote:I think your the one smoking mate, 328's not juicy??? my 1998 E36 323 used to have an average mpg of 18mpg according to the OBC so i dread to think what mpg I would get in a 328 (notice i said "I")Simon13 wrote:
what do you smoke? 328's are not juicy. Does your 4 pot E30 give 32mpg?
And in answer to your question no my 4 pot does not get 32 mpg my best has been 38mpg on a nice run, and thats without trying really hard to get good MPG.
Never worked out an average but i can assure you my average mpg is far better than the average MPG i would get out of a E36 328.
So what is it your smoking crack or opium??
I run a 328i as a daily and easily get 30 mpg. My mrs runs a 323i as a daily and there is nothing in it!
Pac comes accross as the sort of person who says alot but knows little.darkchild wrote:There is so much sh!te in this statement I don't know where to begin!pac1982 wrote:328's aint worth jack diddly no one wants to pay the fuel bills, the 323 was one of the last E36's to be made hence some very nice examples around with low miles and aint been owned by people who like to drive hard like 328 sport owners.
Plus even though they are actully a 2.5 the name 323 makes people think it will cost less to run than a 325 hence making them worth a tad more as they appeal to more people.
If its very clean then i would say offer £2000, if it had some nice bits then it would be worth around £2500 to the right person but it has pov spec alloys and bumpers
If you willing to wait though you could get the same sorta car for a bag of sand and a monkey
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18mpg out of a 323!!!!!!!!!!!!! Theres something wrong with it pal. I had a '99 323 convertible and that regularly saw 30mpg and never less than 25mpg round town. My 530i sport runs similar figures. Saw just over 35 in it going to Si's the other week.Simon13 wrote:i don't smoke thanks but my OBC in 328 reads 31.4 mpg and i'm not the only person out there with a 328 getting that kind of MPGpac1982 wrote:I think your the one smoking mate, 328's not juicy??? my 1998 E36 323 used to have an average mpg of 18mpg according to the OBC so i dread to think what mpg I would get in a 328 (notice i said "I")Simon13 wrote:
what do you smoke? 328's are not juicy. Does your 4 pot E30 give 32mpg?
And in answer to your question no my 4 pot does not get 32 mpg my best has been 38mpg on a nice run, and thats without trying really hard to get good MPG.
Never worked out an average but i can assure you my average mpg is far better than the average MPG i would get out of a E36 328.
So what is it your smoking crack or opium??
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328i Sport ftw all day long. I'd have a 323i if it was cheap, but not for 328i sport money! Pac 1982, have you ever driven a 328i or are you too busy reading magazines?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1747554.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1872737.htm
Still think buying a 323i for £2,700 is a good idea????
No offence to the OP
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Still think buying a 323i for £2,700 is a good idea????
No offence to the OP
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Yep I’ve driven more or less every BMW up to 2003 models bar some of the very obscure and exiotic cars. I worked for BMW from a young age until my mid 20'sAndy325i wrote: Pac 1982, have you ever driven a 328i or are you too busy reading magazines?
All you people who think you can get constant high MPG figures out of a 6 pot are either extremely slow drivers so don’t need a big enne anyway or your living in a dream world, I did like to cane my 323 what can I say I was young with a 6 pot BMW hence the MPG
328’s are thirsty full stop and anyone who claims otherwise is obviously in denial
Oh and i dont read magazines cant remember the last time i purchased one

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1989 730i, old M30 boat anchor. Brimmed the tank. Went from Notts to Fort William in Scotland, 80 on cruise control on motorway and A1, across the A66 from Scotch Corner to Penrith, up to Glasgow, then A82 winding roads to FW. A bit of trundling around town.pac1982 wrote:
All you people who think you can get constant high MPG figures out of a 6 pot are either extremely slow drivers so don’t need a big enne anyway or your living in a dream world, I did like to cane my 323 what can I say I was young with a 6 pot BMW hence the MPG
Brimmed it again in FW, did the sums on litres uesd - 31.4 mpg.
Most economical six pot I ever had was an E36 320i Auto which would do 37mpg on a motorway run. My 318iS can just about match that - and a 318iS is a noisy slow little shitbox which wouldn't see which was a 328i went.
What's a 'Big enne' by the way?
As for the £2600 323i Coupe. If it's absolutely immaculate with proper history and everything works, it's not that dear. Compare it with what a new 320i/325i Coupe costs - about ten times that.








