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Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:01 pm
pac1982 wrote:scott180gtb wrote:Andy or Anyone for that matter.
If you get wind of any 530i touring Msports in manual flavour then give me a shout.

didn't you try to flog me your diesel a few pages ago, and now your looking for a petrol, speaks volumes lol

Don't get me wrong. The 530d is good bus. I need a big lump to pull a caravan but I fooking hate the auto box. I had mine serviced for piece of mind but because I had the manual before and about 10mpg more I keep wishing I had a manual again.
E60 are getting cheap now. 530d Msport Manual. Has to be a touring as well.

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Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:06 pm
Kos wrote:I nearly bought one a year ago, it was an epic spec as well.
Was it grey?
As said, I did see one for sale, grey 550i m sport manual E61 touring with huge spec food about £10k. Simon will remember it.
I also looked at couple of E39 Alpina B10 V8S's and E39 M5's but went with the drivers choice of the dragger.
In reality, 20mpg of the dragger is pushing it for a daily so the 15mpg all of the above V8 chariots would have been too much.
Did have a nice E39 540i M sport auto for 6 months this year but the mrs drove that mainly.
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Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:14 pm
bss325i wrote:Kos wrote:I nearly bought one a year ago, it was an epic spec as well.
Was it grey?
As said, I did see one for sale, grey 550i m sport manual E61 touring with huge spec food about £10k. Simon will remember it.
I also looked at couple of E39 Alpina B10 V8S's and E39 M5's but went with the drivers choice of the dragger.
In reality, 20mpg of the dragger is pushing it for a daily so the 15mpg all of the above V8 chariots would have been too much.
Did have a nice E39 540i M sport auto for 6 months this year but the mrs drove that mainly.
Was the 540i facelift ?
I can't understand the fuss over E60 550i Manual in preference to E60 M5.
1. M5 has epic engine and worked over by BMW M
2. A Manual in a big heavy car like a 5 Series, isn't meant to be a sports car more a luxury saloon so even if auto would be fun ? Plus the enjoyment factor of M5 engine, BMW M trimmings surely outweigh Manual 550i
Ignore remaps etc
SMGII is fine to use so no reason why SMGIII shouldn't be
Re E39 540i
Get a fruity exhaust or delete the silences from the OEM exhausts somehow ?
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Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:07 pm
pony wrote:bss325i wrote:Kos wrote:I nearly bought one a year ago, it was an epic spec as well.
Was it grey?
As said, I did see one for sale, grey 550i m sport manual E61 touring with huge spec food about £10k. Simon will remember it.
I also looked at couple of E39 Alpina B10 V8S's and E39 M5's but went with the drivers choice of the dragger.
In reality, 20mpg of the dragger is pushing it for a daily so the 15mpg all of the above V8 chariots would have been too much.
Did have a nice E39 540i M sport auto for 6 months this year but the mrs drove that mainly.
Was the 540i facelift ?
I can't understand the fuss over E60 550i Manual in preference to E60 M5.
1. M5 has epic engine and worked over by BMW M
2. A Manual in a big heavy car like a 5 Series, isn't meant to be a sports car more a luxury saloon so even if auto would be fun ? Plus the enjoyment factor of M5 engine, BMW M trimmings surely outweigh Manual 550i
Ignore remaps etc
SMGII is fine to use so no reason why SMGIII shouldn't be
Re E39 540i
Get a fruity exhaust or delete the silences from the OEM exhausts somehow ?
I'm not one to jump on the "gang up and hate on pony" band wagon but you are a bit dim at times!
"2. A Manual in a big heavy car like a 5 Series, isn't meant to be a sports car more a luxury saloon so even if auto would be fun ?"
WTF is an E39 M5 meant to be then? Should that have been auto?
And SMG is shite end of.
Manual, DCT or auto. Nothing else.
Every automated manual gearbox in any car made has been shite.
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Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:20 pm
pac1982 wrote:scott180gtb wrote:Andy or Anyone for that matter.
If you get wind of any 530i touring Msports in manual flavour then give me a shout.

didn't you try to flog me your diesel a few pages ago, and now your looking for a petrol, speaks volumes lol
zd3bx wrote:DanThe wrote:High insurance costs? Mine is supposedly insurance group 36 and the best quote I had was £400 fully comp
Well, it's high compared to lower class, more common cars, like Fiestas, Polos, Golfs, etc.
A 5 series is a mid-sized saloon/estate, so matter how old it is, it will be always more expensive to insure compared to a same age lower class car.
not always when I got my first BMW a 325 coupe E36 my insurance went down to what I was paying to drive a Renault Clio
Often insurance company's see big family/saloon cars as sensible cars for sensible people and cost them accordingly
Yes, 5 series are generally cheaper to insure than 3 series cars.
Our when i had a E39 530i M sport and replaced it with an E46 330iSE touring the price went up!
When we replaced the mrs E39 540i M sport with an E46 330i M sport touring it stayed the same pretty much.
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Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:23 pm
Yes good point about the E39 M5
I think I would choose E39 540i auto over E60 550i Manual if push cane to shove though. I would have E39 M5 over any of them though.
Dunno about E39 M5 or E60 M5 which I would prefer driving wise as haven't driven either. E39 M5 does look stunning IMO though.
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Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:27 pm
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Pony, I've had a 540i auto - it's a great car but I'd rather have a 550i manual a 1000 times over.
The auto box works ok but you can't really control the car anywhere near like you can in a manual. Depends what you want and how you want to drive it I guess.
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Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:31 pm
pony wrote:Yes good point about the E39 M5
I think I would choose E39 540i auto over E60 550i Manual if push cane to shove though. I would have E39 M5 over any of them though.
Dunno about E39 M5 or E60 M5 which I would prefer driving wise as haven't driven either. E39 M5 does look stunning IMO though.
Have you driven any of the above?
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Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:34 pm
bss325i wrote:pony wrote:Yes good point about the E39 M5
I think I would choose E39 540i auto over E60 550i Manual if push cane to shove though. I would have E39 M5 over any of them though.
Dunno about E39 M5 or E60 M5 which I would prefer driving wise as haven't driven either. E39 M5 does look stunning IMO though.
Have you driven any of the above?

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Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:44 pm
bss325i wrote:pony wrote:Yes good point about the E39 M5
I think I would choose E39 540i auto over E60 550i Manual if push cane to shove though. I would have E39 M5 over any of them though.
Dunno about E39 M5 or E60 M5 which I would prefer driving wise as haven't driven either. E39 M5 does look stunning IMO though.
Have you driven any of the above?
No but I have driven E46 M3 SMGII as you know and don't have a problem with SMGII
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Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:48 pm
pony wrote:bss325i wrote:pony wrote:Yes good point about the E39 M5
I think I would choose E39 540i auto over E60 550i Manual if push cane to shove though. I would have E39 M5 over any of them though.
Dunno about E39 M5 or E60 M5 which I would prefer driving wise as haven't driven either. E39 M5 does look stunning IMO though.
Have you driven any of the above?
No but I have driven E46 M3 SMGII as you know and don't have a problem with SMGII
I dont really know much about the SMG business as it's never really been my cup of tea, I do remember back when E36 M3's were still fairly new and people were paying big money to have gear box conversions because SMG was apparently that bad
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Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:48 pm
pony wrote:bss325i wrote:pony wrote:Yes good point about the E39 M5
I think I would choose E39 540i auto over E60 550i Manual if push cane to shove though. I would have E39 M5 over any of them though.
Dunno about E39 M5 or E60 M5 which I would prefer driving wise as haven't driven either. E39 M5 does look stunning IMO though.
Have you driven any of the above?
No but I have driven E46 M3 SMGII as you know and don't have a problem with SMGII
An E46 M3 with SMG is nothing like any of the above.
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Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:57 pm
Talking about M5s, one thing which still puzzles me, is how come Americans got e60 m5 with a manual box and even the latest F10 M5, yet here in Europe we have only 1 choice and that's SMG/DCT?
Considering the fact that "driving a stick" is some kind of a hero action in there...
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Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:01 pm
E46 SMG nothing special, do not really think they are good for road driving prefer manual any day.
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Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:01 pm
zd3bx wrote:Talking about M5s, one thing which still puzzles me, is how come Americans got e60 m5 with a manual box and even the latest F10 M5, yet here in Europe we have only 1 choice and that's SMG/DCT?
Considering the fact that "driving a stick" is some kind of a hero action in there...
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Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:37 am
The 550i manual touring surfaced recently forsale again on the 5 forum. It was grey, m-sport, glass sunroof, 19 spyder rims, sensible milege and lots of other toys.
It really was a car for all occasions!
I'm a manual man, took me a while to realise it but i don't do alot of town driving so gimmie the stick shift
I'm trying to sort a deal out on an e34 540i manual touring

time to walk the walk instead of bleeting on here for the past 8 years i fancy one.
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Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:55 pm
Simon13 wrote:The 550i manual touring surfaced recently forsale again on the 5 forum. It was grey, m-sport, glass sunroof, 19 spyder rims, sensible milege and lots of other toys.
It really was a car for all occasions!
I'm a manual man, took me a while to realise it but i don't do alot of town driving so gimmie the stick shift
I'm trying to sort a deal out on an e34 540i manual touring

time to walk the walk instead of bleeting on here for the past 8 years i fancy one.
Stretch it to a E34 M5 or you'll hate yourself later

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Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:25 pm
zd3bx wrote:Simon13 wrote:The 550i manual touring surfaced recently forsale again on the 5 forum. It was grey, m-sport, glass sunroof, 19 spyder rims, sensible milege and lots of other toys.
It really was a car for all occasions!
I'm a manual man, took me a while to realise it but i don't do alot of town driving so gimmie the stick shift
I'm trying to sort a deal out on an e34 540i manual touring

time to walk the walk instead of bleeting on here for the past 8 years i fancy one.
Stretch it to a E34 M5 or you'll hate yourself later

No he won't . E34 M5s , while a serious turd, are a whole world of expensive pain. A 540 manual touring is a cool seriously rare turd for not a lot of money that can be run on a sensible budget. Unlike the M5.
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Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:49 pm
In any case, E34 automatically gives you "BOSS" status

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Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:46 pm
zd3bx wrote:In any case, E34 automatically gives you "BOSS" status

M5 bills on suspension and brakes.
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Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:00 pm
pacerpete wrote:zd3bx wrote:Simon13 wrote:The 550i manual touring surfaced recently forsale again on the 5 forum. It was grey, m-sport, glass sunroof, 19 spyder rims, sensible milege and lots of other toys.
It really was a car for all occasions!
I'm a manual man, took me a while to realise it but i don't do alot of town driving so gimmie the stick shift
I'm trying to sort a deal out on an e34 540i manual touring

time to walk the walk instead of bleeting on here for the past 8 years i fancy one.
Stretch it to a E34 M5 or you'll hate yourself later

No he won't . E34 M5s , while a serious turd, are a whole world of expensive pain. A 540 manual touring is a cool seriously rare turd for not a lot of money that can be run on a sensible budget. Unlike the M5.
Why is the E34 M5 not recommended is it just part prices and the cost of EDC ?
Btw EDC can be refurbished nowadays there is a specialist company that do this for a fraction of the price of New Genuine BMW parts
Was mentioned the BMW Car Club mag
But E34 M5 LE 3.8 6 Speed is way cooler than E34 540i Manual Touring IMO
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Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:29 pm
pacerpete wrote:A 540 manual touring is a cool seriously rare turd for not a lot of money that can be run on a sensible budget.
What does a proper one go for then realistically ££ wise and what does one get for one's money?
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Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:32 pm
E34 genuine parts prices in general are enough to write most of them off, start shopping for Mpower parts and I can imagine it gets boring very quickly
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Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:41 pm
suchy wrote:pacerpete wrote:A 540 manual touring is a cool seriously rare turd for not a lot of money that can be run on a sensible budget.
What does a proper one go for then realistically ££ wise and what does one get for one's money?
Try finding one first! Only about 50 odd RHD ones for the UK!
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Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:45 pm
I dont think theres any left.
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Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:47 pm
bss325i wrote:suchy wrote:pacerpete wrote:A 540 manual touring is a cool seriously rare turd for not a lot of money that can be run on a sensible budget.
What does a proper one go for then realistically ££ wise and what does one get for one's money?
Try finding one first! Only about 50 odd RHD ones for the UK!
BMW UK will have am exact answer for how many came to UK
Customer.service@bmw.co.uk
How many left maybe see the website
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Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:48 pm
pony wrote:bss325i wrote:suchy wrote:
What does a proper one go for then realistically ££ wise and what does one get for one's money?
Try finding one first! Only about 50 odd RHD ones for the UK!
BMW UK will have am exact answer for how many came to UK
Customer.service@bmw.co.uk
How many left maybe see the website
No need, Simon13 knows.
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Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:49 pm
Blitz wrote:I dont think theres any left.
There are a handful.
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:11 am
There were 62 RHD manual tourings built. Theres a record of them all on the 5 forum. Sadly i'd wager well over half have gone.

I'm after the only one built in Avus blue!
I reckon in time that getting an early snotter B10 4.6 e39 could donate its engine in time!
That 52,000 black car looks the tits its very similar spec to my bi turbo. Too nice for me that needs a garage. Pony all V8 e34s are wide grill cars
The drifters and kit car builders have hammering the numbers now as they get broken up, plus the nobbas who bodge them into e30's
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:30 am
There was a Calypso red one on e bay about 5 times a month or so ago - eventually it sold for about £1500 if i remember. It was a right sh1t bucket also.
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:42 am
yeah a drifter has bought it, hes on the 5 forum and wants to polybush the car up, its fate is sealed i feel!
Another problem is they've all done 200,000 miles. I can't remember seeing one with sensible milege in recent years
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:14 am
Says it all really.
Justba quick one about coilovers. Is the rear suspension different on the touring and saloon. I jnow i can get e39 fronts on with a little grinding and welding and e39 rears with e30 top mounts but im not aware if the rear is different on a touring or saloon
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:21 am
I've just looked the 5 forum guys reckon there probably about 20 540/6 tourings left
Time to save one!
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:22 am
Blitz wrote:Says it all really.
Justba quick one about coilovers. Is the rear suspension different on the touring and saloon. I jnow i can get e39 fronts on with a little grinding and welding and e39 rears with e30 top mounts but im not aware if the rear is different on a touring or saloon
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