E36 Compact Compact 328i ti M sport

[leeparkes]

Small update:

Here's todays bodge using all oem parts


Brake servo pipe with a bolt in the end works a treat on blocking the dipstick tee






For the breather pipe from the rocker cover i thought id use part of the oil separator piping as it clips in and a pipe can be easily took from it (not cliped in yet)





^^^will this do with just a pipe running to the inlet boot or do i need more bits? ie this link vvv

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do ... g=11&fg=15


Now im seriously considering rigging the traction control up on this swap as it wont just be me using the car, the wife will be using it too and the last thing i want is to hear is she's smashed it up as ill be less than impressed, she can handle a car but i sometimes have my doubts.
Anyway i have all the traction control gubbins from the donor car but the M52 rubber boot only has one hole for the ICV, is there a rubber boot that i can use that has two holes? ie for the breather

Thanks

[nickso]

why are you ditching the PCV?

[leeparkes]

why are you ditching the PCV?

Is it really needed?

[DanThe]

Use a 325i boot if you want one with 2 holes

Does your compact have ASC? If not I wouldnt even think about it TBH mate

[leeparkes]

Yes it has ASC

Do i need any more bits in that link ^^ for the breather or is it just a pipe from the rocker to the boot

[DanThe]

Straight to the inlet boot, if you already have ASC it wont be difficult, all you need to do is fit the bits to the throttle

[leeparkes]

Champion



Its going on the weigh bridge tomorrow

[nickso]

why are you ditching the PCV?

Is it really needed?

i don't know but its not difficult to keep it.

[leeparkes]

why are you ditching the PCV?

Is it really needed?

i don't know but its not difficult to keep it.

The diaphrapm is split in mine and it has to be replaced as a whole unit so i thought id save myself 50 sheets and bin it

[toby]

im in two minds about the 18" style 32's though, tyres will be expensive when time to replace as they are 255/35/18, im edging to go down to 17" maybe style 5's also has 60/40 drop,

I think those wheels look absolutely fantastic on the car although (people say) that the E36 doesn't handle too well on 18" wheels which is a shame.

A great looking compact though (so many look terrible) and inspiring project.

[nickso]

Is it really needed?

i don't know but its not difficult to keep it.

The diaphrapm is split in mine and it has to be replaced as a whole unit so i thought id save myself 50 sheets and bin it

fair enough, i have a spare one if you change your mind. not opened it yet like.

[leeparkes]

Cheers Toby, it handles suprisingly well and feels very planted, even at speed.

Nickso, they tend to split when opened with all the gunk inside them, not sure how you would test one

Dan do you get much oil in the inlet? or use much oil

[nickso]

i opened and cleaned the one on my engine seems ok but not perfect. bastard to get open though..

[leeparkes]

bastard to get open though..

I know

[leeparkes]

Right, the compact went on the weighbridge today and came in at 1240KG




You can just see the car through the window




Get your bets in, im guessing it wont gain any weight and if it does it will only be fractional, after working on the M52 im suprised how much plastic is on them

The car is laid up now and ill start pulling the M44 out tomorrow if it aint pissing down

[Ollie_bwoii]

I just really confused myself into thinking you had scrapped the 'pact.

[DanThe]

22kg is my guess

Dont use any oil, not noticeable anyway. Slight oil film in the inlet but its not the end of the world really

[leeparkes]

Slight oil film in the inlet but its not the end of the world really

Keeps the system lubed up


Like a spaz i took both ECU's out of the loom to stop them getting knocked about etc...

Anyway which one is for the ECU? im guessing the one with Bosch stamped on it is for the auto ECU, but i thought id just double check

[sheebie]

my guess its gained 69kg

[DanThe]

The one with most pins is for the ECU, you shouldnt be able to fit them to the wrong plug anyway

[Kos]

i weighed my compact the other day

with a 1/3 of tank of fuel, the m52 fitted with 5.5kg flywheel and a large case diff it weighed 1240kg. never weighed it before but i thought they were about 1265kg about acording to the pwner manual so it may have lost weight

oh then the BBS wheels i have on are lighter than the OE 16'' that i took off

anyway some time soon its goin on a drastic diet ! i'd like it to be about 1000kg but thats pushing it, i'd settle for 1100kg with a cage

[leeparkes]

No updates as of yet as ive been proper busy elsewhere but next weekend the engine 'is' coming out of the compact, its been parked up for about 2 weeks ready for the engine to come out but just havent had time

Well the M52 is sort of ready to go in, i ordered an ASC M50 rubber boot thinking it would have two holes underneath for the ICV and PCV, but it only has one hole (like the one i have up the shed )

Have i ordered the right one part number 13 54 1 703 694 vvv

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/partxref.do?part=13541703694

Did M50's even come with ASC?

I feel a bodge coming on.

Cheers Dan on the loom plugs, didnt want to try to see if they pluged in as im so heavy handed id probably bend half the pins over trying to plug the wrong ones together.

Kos, i reckon you could quite easily get a compact down to 1100Kg

[leeparkes]

* Update*

Ill let the pics talk

Ready to pull









Who's that handsome young fellow



And in




BUT i have this problem



Also the prop is now too short, im using the ti box and its like the whole lot is pushed back 50mm

Now i know i need another prop and linkage but which one's?

BMWfans states that the 318ti prop is 1544mm and 328i is 1492mm, so that 52mm difference sounds about right, it also says its the same prop used on M50's (i thought they were different) EDIT, just been on realoem and it says M50 is 1512mm

Is BMWfans reliable? Brianmoooore swears by it, imo its a fail

What linkage though??

[whipsey]

have you tried an e36 316 linkage? cant remember the size of it of the top of my head though

[leeparkes]

Ive been outside doing some head scratching and spent a while on Realoem, ive got to the conclusion i need a prop from an E36 325i which is 32mm shorter than what ive got plus it shares the same size guibo (328i is bigger)

Not sure on the linkage though, im hoping the 325i breaker is still in my local scrappy to grab the prop, if it is ill grab the linkage too to see whats what

[toby]

This may be of some help - unless you've already seen it
http://328compact.co.uk/engine-in

[Kos]

we just used the 328i prop and box on mine

lined up perfectly

[leeparkes]

325i prop & linkage on and its just the job, perfect length and the linkage cradle sits bang in the middle

Ive purchased a 3.46 medium case diff which, with the massive rolling radius of the 18's should be fairly close gearing to a 3.25 on 15's
Kos, which output flanges did you use? ive been told on e36coupe i need e30 driveshafts

Grafted in the EWS too today so will hopefully fire it up in the morning

[Kos]

hello mate

if you use the e30 diff with the e30's out put flanges you will need e30 shafts and you'll have to space out the ABS senson from the trigger wheels a few mm. you'll also need the e30's bolts to hold the shaft to the flange

me, i just used the original Ti's out put planges on the e30 medium case diff and the original Ti shafts.

no probs what so ever after 9 months of hard use

i was going to use e30 shafts, but most of the ones i looked at had fucked knuckles so thought it would be better to use what i had which was in perfect workinig order

the shaft thickness it self is only 1mm different, the flange and joints are a bit bigger 6mm iirc.

there is a difference in length but as i said i've lowered mine and had no issues.

[leeparkes]

Its done!













Council styling 3.46 diff fitted and temporary exhaust bodge up to get me on the road, i used the Y piece from the M44 downpipes in the near future i will either go custom or go down the Z3 route




Well this swap hasnt been without its woe's, First off converting EWS 3 to EWS 2



Then i had this issue vvv

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... highlight=

Turns out i was sold the wrong starter motor and it was hitting the fly instead of engaging



So another 'M20 starter motor fitted and it turned over fine

Fresh oil, filters, coolant etc... then it was time to fire it up, after a few turns it sprang to life

Got it up to temp with the system fully bled, then took it for a spin and im impressed, the power past 4k is very proper screamer and the 3.46 is a right hoot!

BUT i have an idle issue
Ill post up in a bit with the details

[leeparkes]

Right the idle issue is, if i start it without touching the accelerator it will idle fine, as soon as i rev it the revs dont drop straight away and it hunts up and down with about a 4 second gap between them. ive checked for air leaks with carb cleaner, also ICV is buzzing, i ditched the traction control idea (plus it wouldnt fit with the battery in the way) so im running an M50 throttle body and boot

Should the TPS 'click' on these?

[DanThe]

Looks right at home


You cant adjust the TPS anyway mate, first thing to check is that the throttle butterfly is closing fully

[leeparkes]

first thing to check is that the throttle butterfly is closing fully

I checked this when i was adjusting the cable

I did notice on an M50 that the breather off the rocker had like a plastic reducer where the pipe comes off, is this reducer needed as mine is just a pipe direct to the TB boot


EDIT: Dan, i swaped all the wires over like for like on EWS but it wouldnt start, i had ignition lights, fuel but it wouldnt turn the starter over, not even a click, i was to told to bridge pins 1 & 3 so i did and it fired can i leave it like this?

Looks good dont it

[E30BeemerLad]

I recall my M52 is a bit reluctant to drop the revs quickly enough when driving normally. I attributed it to the extra volume of air in the M50 inlet compared to the M52 one, but I guess that could be crap as an engine can't take long to empty the contents of the inlet plenum. I didn't have the hunting issues though. I would just check and check again any vacum hoses and the plumbing for the ICV. Are you using M50 ICV?

[leeparkes]

Im using the M52 ICV, is this right?

I will double check for leaks, what is best to use? ive used all my carb cleaner up today, can WD40 be used?