525i Or A Range ROver!!!!!!!

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thinking of a 94 model range rover 2.5 dse anyone had any experiances with these? am not an off roader and this is my main car as my e30 is my toy fuel consuption will be pritty much the same as will insurance etc.
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I hate Range Rovers. Money pits the lot of them.
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Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:35 pm

Mate of mine has one and loves it to bits. He has been lucky as absolutely nothing has gone wrong with it.

With any of this sort of car the parts are massively expensive (generally speaking) and when things go wrong it costs a small fortune to put right.

If you are saying this would be your main car, I just don't see the point - bad to park, don't handle well, and after a few months of filling up and trying to park the fucker you'll be bored of it and wishing you'd bought something else. I did anyhow!
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Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:43 pm

I like the new ones to drive. Fantastic cars to mess around in. They are pretty good offroad as well once you have selected 'rut' mode and low gears etc. Got all the toys inside that you could ever want. BUT having seen how often these things go wrong(57 platers :( ) I dread to think what an old one would be like :eek:
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Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:44 pm

old ones are the best Jon winkeye


Cant do this in a 525 !!

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I don't think you can do that in the new ones either :eek:

Risking £50k of vogue wouldn't go down well 8O
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Were..... The Offroaders!! :D

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Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:12 pm

LOL :D
bit like this Dan ;
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and yes it is a petrol v8 in water !!

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Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:16 pm

How the hell......talk about engine survival... :?
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I was told to get an E30......But I went for the E34 instead...!
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I bet that used to be a lovely nature reserve before you went steaming through it :)
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ive had 22 e30's and e34's and just fancied a bit of a change, so was looking and really liked the look of the mk2 range rover and allso the dse apperars to be the same on juice as my current 525i if not better.
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There's plenty to go wrong on them, I assure you!

If you do get a P38 and you ever need to know how to repair any part of it (which you will) just give me a shout :D
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it's a BMW engine in those range rovers isn't it? Similar to the E36 & E34 TDS? So not exactly problem free by all accounts.

The MK2 shape Range Rover looks like a Metrocab on stilts though don't you think? Also, won't you get bum raped for £400 a year road tax on a 4x4 like that, or is it just newer registered vehicles.

Looks like some proper Diff Lock action there Andy :D
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Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:03 pm

Cool off road pics :)

'94 RR are still £45k cars to run - my mum is on her 4th Landrover, and 3rd Range Rover. They love them, but they cost as and when they go wrong.
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Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:18 pm

what is the script with the road rax on a 94 model, and its the tds diesel engine (not herd any rumours about the pumps on range rovers but they may well have been involved as the omegas were i think) they must be quite slow but av got another car for the speedish lol!
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Tax is the normal £180ish.

Engine's the most trouble free bit of them.
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The DSE is slow as shit! 140hp IIRC, 2.5 tonnes plus auto and 4x4. I work that out at 35hp @ the wheels / tonne.

At about 85mph the doors start to whistle - at 90+ you lose the steering!!!! 8O
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Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:27 pm

better of with the v8 righness then!
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Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:42 pm

Definately. if your gonna buy a range rover then do it properly and get a v8, preferably a 3.5, 3.9 or 4.2 in the classic or the 4.6 in the p38. Thats what range rovers are about, great offroaders, comfort and that big grumbling v8. A Diesel range rover doesn't have much point and it says cheap skate.lol

However, i wanna build a v8 defender 90 pickup sometime.
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I hate Range Rovers. Money pits the lot of them
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Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:59 pm

Chris-W wrote:Tax is the normal £180ish.

Engine's the most trouble free bit of them.
I'd trust what this man says on RR!
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how do you get 38mpg from a m20 b20 touring! (your avatar)
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320ise wrote:how do you get 38mpg from a m20 b20 touring! (your avatar)
If I told ya- I'd have to kill ya! :D

stay on topic please (PM me if you want info!)
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Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:28 pm

Ant reckons the later V8s (3.9-4.6) have a problem with porous blocks/heads, so you're probably better off with the old 3.5.
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Speedtouch wrote:Ant reckons the later V8s (3.9-4.6) have a problem with porous blocks/heads, so you're probably better off with the old 3.5.
They certainly do. And in my experience they're just not worth the fuel. nasty sluggish things.
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Weve got a K plater at the mo, needs a steering box and some general tatting but is not bad at all, very nice proper 4x4 8)

Luckily though, we have a nearly new steering box that has sat under a bench for 90% of its life :D

Its a 3.9 V8, electric leather and real wood, not long ago it had a new dizzy, the owner at the time nearly passed out while pricing one up! :)
As soon as the steering box is done and its flew through a MOT it will be sold as I cant bring myself to put fuel in the thirsty bas*ard :eek:
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Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:51 pm

what mpg you get?
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This one does about 17 :clin:
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thats rough! what about on lpg though what would you be looking at off a £10 then? at 17mpg thats roughly 35 miles to a tenner! but saying that my 320i only does 45/50!
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17mpg is pretty respectable for one of those Dan :D
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Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:59 pm

17mpg down hill and switched off maybe ! :(
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The only time you'll see 20 mpg from a Strange Rover 2.5d is from the AA lorry it's strapped to.
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Andyboy wrote:The only time you'll see 20 mpg from a Strange Rover 2.5d is from the AA lorry it's strapped to.
:D :D :D
part of the northloop massive!
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I briefly owned a 1990 Range Rover Classic...had a stinking 2.5 "Turbo" oil burner in it.... possibly, no, definitley, the slowest and worst handling car ive ever driven/or been in.....acually worse than the SIIa i used to have... The only redeeming things were the looks, the fact it was cosmetically very smart and finally the fact i more than doubled my money when i sold the thing :)
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