cecotto479 (Boyd) owes me a refund or parts, since February-
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- stationwagonguy
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I'm getting really sick and tired of this. I purchased parts from Boyd, or cecotto479 on here back in February- Chrome early bumpers and associated bracketry, a front valence, grilles, and a clock. It is now September- I have received nothing from Boyd. No parts ever arrived. Months of asking politely have done nothing. He repeatedly told me items were shipped, but when prompted for tracking numbers, receipts, ANY evidence that something had been sent, it was either ignored or met with responses about looking for them, followed by excuses of "oh, they got caught up in customs and sent back". I finally asked for a refund, as it had taken so long, and we're going on two months of not getting anything. Boyd claims to have wired me a refund a month ago, but it's never arrived, and he's once again never sent me a shred of evidence it ever happened despite me asking politely on multiple occasions.
When I wired (my first mistake) Boyd 250 pounds back in February, it was roughly $455, plus about $30 in bank fees. If Boyd sends me the 250 pounds back now, I'm out a shade under $80 between the fees and the exchange rate change.
It's pretty damn infuriating to send Boyd a message, come back a week later with no response, and see him happily chatting away with others, offering to sell them parts, talking about cars he's bought, and yet I'm still empty handed and wondering what the hell is going on.
I know this isn't new- I've seen other threads about Boyd not following through. I've tried to give him the benefit of the doubt for months, and he's not making things right of his own free will, clearly. I made the mistake of believing that, having a full website and an apparently legitimate business dismantling BMWs, I could trust him, and I was unable to find anyone else willing to send bumpers to the US at the time. And when I wanted to check to see if anyone had anything bad to say about him, E30zone went down for almost two weeks, so I just went through with it.
If anyone could point me towards some authorities I could contact, that would be absolutely lovely. Or, if Boyd would like to send me my money now, I'd really appreciate it.
When I wired (my first mistake) Boyd 250 pounds back in February, it was roughly $455, plus about $30 in bank fees. If Boyd sends me the 250 pounds back now, I'm out a shade under $80 between the fees and the exchange rate change.
It's pretty damn infuriating to send Boyd a message, come back a week later with no response, and see him happily chatting away with others, offering to sell them parts, talking about cars he's bought, and yet I'm still empty handed and wondering what the hell is going on.
I know this isn't new- I've seen other threads about Boyd not following through. I've tried to give him the benefit of the doubt for months, and he's not making things right of his own free will, clearly. I made the mistake of believing that, having a full website and an apparently legitimate business dismantling BMWs, I could trust him, and I was unable to find anyone else willing to send bumpers to the US at the time. And when I wanted to check to see if anyone had anything bad to say about him, E30zone went down for almost two weeks, so I just went through with it.
If anyone could point me towards some authorities I could contact, that would be absolutely lovely. Or, if Boyd would like to send me my money now, I'd really appreciate it.
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I'll get it sorted immediately. Sorry again. I made an arse of this one too. PM sent.
The number of transactions that go wrong, whilst too high is a very small percentage - that's no comfort to you, of course, and I'll get it attended to. As I said to you, the merger between Alliance & Leicester and Santander and the change in sort codes and acconts has caused a lot of trouble with business accounts - mostly on the incomimg side, but some online actions still appear to process, but don't.
I've been in touch.
The number of transactions that go wrong, whilst too high is a very small percentage - that's no comfort to you, of course, and I'll get it attended to. As I said to you, the merger between Alliance & Leicester and Santander and the change in sort codes and acconts has caused a lot of trouble with business accounts - mostly on the incomimg side, but some online actions still appear to process, but don't.
I've been in touch.
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Chasing people around the forum is a dangerous game! Thread cleaned/split.
Leave it to the buyer, people. I'll drop him a PM to see where we're at and then if necessary another mod will hopefully assist here.
Leave it to the buyer, people. I'll drop him a PM to see where we're at and then if necessary another mod will hopefully assist here.
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I've still received nothing.
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I sent you a pm on Wednesday Bob. That still stands.
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Can I add negative feedback here on behalf of my dad? The purchase wasn't on the zone, but I feel as a trader here everyone has a right to know. I will proceed with input from a mod.
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Is the neg feedback against the same guy??BrianBimmerHead wrote:Can I add negative feedback here on behalf of my dad? The purchase wasn't on the zone, but I feel as a trader here everyone has a right to know. I will proceed with input from a mod.
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yeah same nice guy
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BrianBimmerHead wrote:yeah same nice guy
To leave a negative feedback thread, you would need to start a new thread in this section
http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... forum&f=33
Titled 'Cecotto479 - Negative Feedback' as I cant seem to find a negative thread on him.
Then explain your dealings with him and experience etc. Try to keep personal feelings or name calling out of it and keep focused on what actually happened.
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Then post away, Brian.BrianBimmerHead wrote:yeah same nice guy
No point having this particular section, if people don't use it.
Besides, it gives Boyd a chance to put his side of the story.

Pardon me if you feel i'm posting where it may not be needed, and a bit late into the topic as well but I'd like to just confirm (as I work in Santander) that accounts that migrated from Alliance and Leicester are prone to many bugs and errors on the bank's behalf. During the migration a lot of information usually gets left off from the accounts causing verification troubles as well. For example with every recently migrated business account I've encountered the date of birth for the account holder(s) will be reset to 01-01-0001, this just one of the problems!cecotto479 wrote:I'll get it sorted immediately. Sorry again. I made an arse of this one too. PM sent.
The number of transactions that go wrong, whilst too high is a very small percentage - that's no comfort to you, of course, and I'll get it attended to. As I said to you, the merger between Alliance & Leicester and Santander and the change in sort codes and acconts has caused a lot of trouble with business accounts - mostly on the incomimg side, but some online actions still appear to process, but don't.
I've been in touch.

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And these "bugs" take from February to October to sort out do they?Green wrote:Pardon me if you feel i'm posting where it may not be needed, and a bit late into the topic as well but I'd like to just confirm (as I work in Santander) that accounts that migrated from Alliance and Leicester are prone to many bugs and errors on the bank's behalf. During the migration a lot of information usually gets left off from the accounts causing verification troubles as well. For example with every recently migrated business account I've encountered the date of birth for the account holder(s) will be reset to 01-01-0001, this just one of the problems!cecotto479 wrote:I'll get it sorted immediately. Sorry again. I made an arse of this one too. PM sent.
The number of transactions that go wrong, whilst too high is a very small percentage - that's no comfort to you, of course, and I'll get it attended to. As I said to you, the merger between Alliance & Leicester and Santander and the change in sort codes and acconts has caused a lot of trouble with business accounts - mostly on the incomimg side, but some online actions still appear to process, but don't.
I've been in touch.
B7's Motto. "If it's French, BURN IT!!!!!!"
^^ Correct, they didn't take from February to October to resolve! 
I have been able to transfer money to and from Santander accounts without issue for some time now.
I've had that excuse too. I can't *think* where I heard it or who I heard it from...!
Santander may be a pretty hopeless bank, but even they aren't that hopeless!
I have been able to transfer money to and from Santander accounts without issue for some time now.
I've had that excuse too. I can't *think* where I heard it or who I heard it from...!
Santander may be a pretty hopeless bank, but even they aren't that hopeless!
Well well well, how am I not surprised Boyd hasn't had the pleasure of the unreliable seller tag. Far be it for me to influence team decisions, but withholding parts from February to September is totally and utterly inexcusable.
Boyd, here's a company who will ship to detroit zero hassle and i appreciate any delivery costs will have to come from the funds that have been absorbed into your account by now but these guys are about the cheapest you'll get
Yes it's a faff filling out the customs papers etc.
If you really want me to I will post these out for you, now there's saying something
http://www.transglobalexpress.co.uk/
Boyd, here's a company who will ship to detroit zero hassle and i appreciate any delivery costs will have to come from the funds that have been absorbed into your account by now but these guys are about the cheapest you'll get
Yes it's a faff filling out the customs papers etc.
If you really want me to I will post these out for you, now there's saying something
http://www.transglobalexpress.co.uk/
You'd be surprised how long problems can take to get resolved there, but a complaint raised about the issue will usually sort out the problems within at least 6 weeks if not earlier. Depending on the incompetence of some advisor's which is a lot of them... this can also prolong problems (usually due to fraud systems not being updated)... saying that though I don't think account issues would be totally to blame for.B7 wrote:And these "bugs" take from February to October to sort out do they?Green wrote:Pardon me if you feel i'm posting where it may not be needed, and a bit late into the topic as well but I'd like to just confirm (as I work in Santander) that accounts that migrated from Alliance and Leicester are prone to many bugs and errors on the bank's behalf. During the migration a lot of information usually gets left off from the accounts causing verification troubles as well. For example with every recently migrated business account I've encountered the date of birth for the account holder(s) will be reset to 01-01-0001, this just one of the problems!cecotto479 wrote:I'll get it sorted immediately. Sorry again. I made an arse of this one too. PM sent.
The number of transactions that go wrong, whilst too high is a very small percentage - that's no comfort to you, of course, and I'll get it attended to. As I said to you, the merger between Alliance & Leicester and Santander and the change in sort codes and acconts has caused a lot of trouble with business accounts - mostly on the incomimg side, but some online actions still appear to process, but don't.
I've been in touch.
Majority of the time there are no problems with actual santander accounts but migrated ones always tend to balls up for some reason.trisman wrote:^^ Correct, they didn't take from February to October to resolve!
I have been able to transfer money to and from Santander accounts without issue for some time now.
I've had that excuse too. I can't *think* where I heard it or who I heard it from...!![]()
Santander may be a pretty hopeless bank, but even they aren't that hopeless!
You'd think being one of the top banks in the UK they wouldn't be that useless... but you haven't worked on complaints, and that's for just my department

So you still have a phobia of post offices thenBarx325i wrote:
If you really want me to I will post these out for you, now there's saying something
http://www.transglobalexpress.co.uk/
Glad your getting round it by using couriers
Oh btw , I think you should both have the unreliable seller tag
Brian , If you have something to say about boyd just post it in here bud
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hey drunk boy, if you care to spare the time to research - you may begin to analyse and compare 'post office' and similar organisational prices against internationally capable, real world organisational cost effective firms who can outprice any feeble POS god forsaken infra-structurally crippled corporations you prefer to suffer..
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Barx325i wrote:hey drunk boy, if you care to spare the time to research - you may begin to analyse and compare 'post office' and similar organisational prices against internationally capable, real world organisational cost effective firms who can outprice any feeble POS god forsaken infra-structurally crippled corporations you prefer to suffer..
Yeah, yeah, yeah but do they cash Giros?

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I'm sorry but thats a load of b0ll0ckless excuses and are totally irrelevant here. There are a thousand ways to pay someone. Her could have walked the money back sooner than 8 months!Green wrote:You'd be surprised how long problems can take to get resolved there, but a complaint raised about the issue will usually sort out the problems within at least 6 weeks if not earlier. Depending on the incompetence of some advisor's which is a lot of them... this can also prolong problems (usually due to fraud systems not being updated)... saying that though I don't think account issues would be totally to blame for.B7 wrote:And these "bugs" take from February to October to sort out do they?Green wrote: Pardon me if you feel i'm posting where it may not be needed, and a bit late into the topic as well but I'd like to just confirm (as I work in Santander) that accounts that migrated from Alliance and Leicester are prone to many bugs and errors on the bank's behalf. During the migration a lot of information usually gets left off from the accounts causing verification troubles as well. For example with every recently migrated business account I've encountered the date of birth for the account holder(s) will be reset to 01-01-0001, this just one of the problems!
Majority of the time there are no problems with actual santander accounts but migrated ones always tend to balls up for some reason.trisman wrote:^^ Correct, they didn't take from February to October to resolve!
I have been able to transfer money to and from Santander accounts without issue for some time now.
I've had that excuse too. I can't *think* where I heard it or who I heard it from...!![]()
Santander may be a pretty hopeless bank, but even they aren't that hopeless!
You'd think being one of the top banks in the UK they wouldn't be that useless... but you haven't worked on complaints, and that's for just my departmentI could slate the company and its problems all day long but I'd rather not spam the topic up too much so if anyone wants answers for why Santander has messed up their bank account/credit cards then make a new topic or just Pm me
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Typical isn't it. Steering well clear of his own troublesome thread but active on here rubbing salt in peoples wounds by offering to "post these out for you"gooner1 wrote:Barx325i wrote:hey drunk boy, if you care to spare the time to research - you may begin to analyse and compare 'post office' and similar organisational prices against internationally capable, real world organisational cost effective firms who can outprice any feeble POS god forsaken infra-structurally crippled corporations you prefer to suffer..
Yeah, yeah, yeah but do they cash Giros?
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Like boyd, I refuse to rise to the childish routines of the wind up merchants on here. If people don't have any positive or gainful input, then I'm not going to participate - that's the bottom line chappoB7 wrote:Typical isn't it. Steering well clear of his own troublesome thread but active on here rubbing salt in peoples wounds by offering to "post these out for you"gooner1 wrote:Barx325i wrote:hey drunk boy, if you care to spare the time to research - you may begin to analyse and compare 'post office' and similar organisational prices against internationally capable, real world organisational cost effective firms who can outprice any feeble POS god forsaken infra-structurally crippled corporations you prefer to suffer..
Yeah, yeah, yeah but do they cash Giros?
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Maybe if you had spent less time 'researching' / 'analysing' the wheels might not have taken 6 weeks to get delivered . Time for some more research and a new courier me thinks .......Barx325i wrote:hey drunk boy, if you care to spare the time to research - you may begin to analyse and compare 'post office' and similar organisational prices against internationally capable, real world organisational cost effective firms who can outprice any feeble POS god forsaken infra-structurally crippled corporations you prefer to suffer..
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I believe you've used organisational twice in the wrong context, so for someone who clearly likes to try and be very clever, please do it properly.Barx325i wrote:hey drunk boy, if you care to spare the time to research - you may begin to analyse and compare 'post office' and similar organisational prices against internationally capable, real world organisational cost effective firms who can outprice any feeble POS god forsaken infra-structurally crippled corporations you prefer to suffer..
+1 for Pete's point. Why aren't these wheels delivered ?
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Pete, in that 6 week period, I only had a few days in which there was a suitable window for a courier - I was away for the first 2 weeks, this is why people shouldn't jump to conclusions, like the many people on my FAO thread..
infra-structurally isn't correct either, but I don't have to try; to be very clever
very sorry, that would be my predictive text, I'll have a word and let you know the outcome.Topblag wrote:I believe you've used organisational twice in the wrong context, so for someone who clearly likes to try and be very clever, please do it properly.
infra-structurally isn't correct either, but I don't have to try; to be very clever
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I'm far from a "wind up merchant" boyBarx325i wrote:Like boyd, I refuse to rise to the childish routines of the wind up merchants on here. If people don't have any positive or gainful input, then I'm not going to participate - that's the bottom line chappoB7 wrote:Typical isn't it. Steering well clear of his own troublesome thread but active on here rubbing salt in peoples wounds by offering to "post these out for you"gooner1 wrote:
Yeah, yeah, yeah but do they cash Giros?
I just can't abide f*cking time wasters!. That's my bottom line.
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calm down dear, I wasn't referring to you.
With ref to your earlier comment, my offer was genuine towards Boyd, not in any way a wound rubbing exercise - unlike most comments on my thread, if you have a click through..
With ref to your earlier comment, my offer was genuine towards Boyd, not in any way a wound rubbing exercise - unlike most comments on my thread, if you have a click through..
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You clearly don't have to try very hard to be a tit either.Barx325i wrote:.....but I don't have to try; to be very clever
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1990 325ix, moredoor auto in Laser Blue. 51k
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The Unreliable Idiot (Caution!) has just sent me a PM about his bloodline being in the Domesday Book. More like a Haynes Manual.......Topblag wrote:You clearly don't have to try very hard to be a tit either.Barx325i wrote:.....but I don't have to try; to be very clever
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Andyboy wrote:The Unreliable Idiot (Caution!) has just sent me a PM about his bloodline being in the Domesday Book. More like a Haynes Manual.......Topblag wrote:You clearly don't have to try very hard to be a tit either.Barx325i wrote:.....but I don't have to try; to be very clever

Like this one ? Could come in handy if his caked mate with the R8 has any issues !
Like i said before "Bet there posted tueday , Giro day"Barx325i wrote:hey drunk boy, if you care to spare the time to research - you may begin to analyse and compare 'post office' and similar organisational prices against internationally capable, real world organisational cost effective firms who can outprice any feeble POS god forsaken infra-structurally crippled corporations you prefer to suffer..
Correct wasnt i , So i maybe considerably more intelligent than you
Oh and im drunk on the laughter of your stupidity
Less of the pm`s eh , Were not dating
Barx325i wrote:
Like boyd, I refuse to rise to the childish routines of the wind up merchants on here. If people don't have any positive or gainful input, then I'm not going to participate - that's the bottom line chappo
Like boyd you take peoples money and make them wait a unreasonable amount of tine yeah
Maybe if you posted stuff mr.highflyer there wouldnt be problems like this would they ?
Then again this is going round in circles
They labelled your arse with a tag anyway
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Wicked - you can't beat an 1108 big block.pacerpete wrote:Andyboy wrote:The Unreliable Idiot (Caution!) has just sent me a PM about his bloodline being in the Domesday Book. More like a Haynes Manual.......Topblag wrote: You clearly don't have to try very hard to be a tit either.
Like this one ? Could come in handy if his caked mate with the R8 has any issues !
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