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Need polish. Im not going for concorse finish just want to get some protection on the paint. I like Maguires products but really dont want to have to do the whole three stage thing. Is there a Maguires polish I can apply and then wax regually.

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as for a wax paul. i would recomend some Dodo Juice wax, got soem on my motor and my dads and the finish is awesome, as for polish i only use menzena 3.02 then clean the apint and apply the wax.
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1an wrote:as for polish i only use menzena 3.02 .
Got a link ?

I have not used the clay kit yet, only had it delivered yesterday. Once I use it I need to put some protection back .
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menzena is only for use on a porter cable, but the best perosn to speak to is Dave as he does all his by hand,
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:19 pm

Cotty,

Had the same q myself, just got delivery of my CLAY kit too the other day...bit scared to use it tbh, dont want to scratch my paint.....


Anyhooo.........you needn't do the three stage process....what i bought is Meguiars STEP 2 DEEP CRYSTAL POLISH, i already have Megiuars Gold Class Wax

With the stated polish...its a simple.....clean....clay....wipe....apply and dry off polish.....wax

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siddiqi1 wrote:Cotty,

Had the same q myself, just got delivery of my CLAY kit too the other day...bit scared to use it tbh, dont want to scratch my paint.....


Anyhooo.........you needn't do the three stage process....what i bought is Meguiars STEP 2 DEEP CRYSTAL POLISH, i already have Megiuars Gold Class Wax

With the stated polish...its a simple.....clean....clay....wipe....apply and dry off polish.....wax

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Paul if you willing to wait a coupel fo days get yourself some chemical guys polish and some dodo juice wax,

yeah megs 3 stage is alright to use my the results arent anything fantastic.

paul i find this site http://www.carwashnwax.com/ very easy to use etc as its all in categorys and the products are very good.
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siddiqi1 wrote:Anyhooo.........you needn't do the three stage process....what i bought is Meguiars STEP 2 DEEP CRYSTAL POLISH, i already have Megiuars Gold Class Wax

With the stated polish...its a simple.....clean....clay....wipe....apply and dry off polish.....wax
That sounds the deal
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1an wrote: Paul if you willing to wait a coupel fo days get yourself some chemical guys polish and some dodo juice wax,
The Maguires wax is ok for me. Silver will never get that deep shine.

Tomorrow I will probably try out the Chemical Guys wheel sealant. Take the wheels off one by one and clean inside and out then apply the sealant
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now that is a load of rubbish, silver can get an awesome shine.
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Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:55 am

1an wrote:now that is a load of rubbish, silver can get an awesome shine.
it'll be shiny but have no depth.

to be honest if your paints crap, all you ever end up doing is hiding and masking the poor finish, and the wax will give it a shine, however when waxed and sealed you will actually highlight any imperfections which will be visibale on close inspections . this applys to all p[aint finishes and colours, but the colours that hide imperfections well are the silvers and whites and generally any light colour.
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Paul,

I use Pro-detailing UK products, they will train you up free of charge, have an awesome selection of products and have incredible knowledge.

I now neither use wax or polish.

Curious ?

See the Zone Trading Post for link or give me a shout in the week after Monday.

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Paul,

I use Pro-detailing UK products, they will train you up free of charge, have an awesome selection of products and have incredible knowledge.

I now neither use wax or polish.

Curious ?

See the Zone Trading Post for link or give me a shout in the week after Monday.

OIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII, spill the beans.....that sounds rather intriguing, makes me regreat having purchased all my products!!:(
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HartgeH27 wrote:I now neither use wax or polish.

Curious ?

See the Zone Trading Post for link or give me a shout in the week after Monday.

winkeye
Yep very curious, can you past the link.
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Iain,

Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

thats just not right, holding information from mebers must surely be against Mod rules!!!!!!!!!!!LOL :P
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Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:45 pm

meguiars cleaner wax is good stuff, cleans and polishes in one go
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Maybe someone can help me too, recently picked up my car from hacing a full respray and i am bascially scared to put anything on it to polish or wax it, any recommendations
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Potential risk of being flamed for mentioning the T word, but I use Meg's stage 2 and my choice of wax is... Turtle Wax Platinum!! (Really)

Gives a nice shine IMO, although the more expensive products do offer more, but you can spend an awful lot on posh waxes.
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RichieRagtop wrote:Maybe someone can help me too, recently picked up my car from hacing a full respray and i am bascially scared to put anything on it to polish or wax it, any recommendations
you will need a wax or sealant, choice is yours. what works for me is autoglym products, but some people hate them, where as i hate meguires.
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Kos wrote:
1an wrote:now that is a load of rubbish, silver can get an awesome shine.
it'll be shiny but have no depth.

to be honest if your paints crap, all you ever end up doing is hiding and masking the poor finish, and the wax will give it a shine, however when waxed and sealed you will actually highlight any imperfections which will be visibale on close inspections . this applys to all p[aint finishes and colours, but the colours that hide imperfections well are the silvers and whites and generally any light colour.
ill have to differ, you can get a silver car to have alot of depth in the paint but as you have said if the paint isnt good in the first palce then you only hide the imperfections.
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1an wrote:
Kos wrote: it'll be shiny but have no depth.
ill have to differ, you can get a silver car to have alot of depth in the paint but as you have said if the paint isnt good in the first palce then you only hide the imperfections.
My car is waiting if you want to prove him wrong :wink:
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bring it round im quite happy to give it a go,
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1an wrote:
Kos wrote:
1an wrote:now that is a load of rubbish, silver can get an awesome shine.
it'll be shiny but have no depth.

to be honest if your paints crap, all you ever end up doing is hiding and masking the poor finish, and the wax will give it a shine, however when waxed and sealed you will actually highlight any imperfections which will be visibale on close inspections . this applys to all paint finishes and colours, but the colours that hide imperfections well are the silvers and whites and generally any light colour.
ill have to differ, you can get a silver car to have alot of depth in the paint .
no worries,

15 years experience and thats my p.o.v.

the 2 best colours to get deep shine and really stand out are striaght black and red, the sport evo colours for exaple. any dark metalics are good, like macau and avus blue but never ever will a silver have the same depth. a metalic grey possibly but to have impact it needs to be strong metalic similar to say negaro or the CSL grey

these days with water based paints, you dont realy get the sparcle and glittery effect celulose paints and base coats have.

for an example of the impact a colour has all you have to do is look at the AMG mercs, they look so dull and flat in silver, where as bmw and audi have some really nice colurs which give their cars impact.

i'm building a car to have impact, and silver as colour was crossed of the list first for these reasons.
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Kos wrote:
1an wrote:
Kos wrote: it'll be shiny but have no depth.

to be honest if your paints crap, all you ever end up doing is hiding and masking the poor finish, and the wax will give it a shine, however when waxed and sealed you will actually highlight any imperfections which will be visibale on close inspections . this applys to all paint finishes and colours, but the colours that hide imperfections well are the silvers and whites and generally any light colour.
ill have to differ, you can get a silver car to have alot of depth in the paint .
no worries,

15 years experience and thats my p.o.v.

the 2 best colours to get deep shine and really stand out are striaght black and red, the sport evo colours for exaple. any dark metalics are good, like macau and avus blue but never ever will a silver have the same depth. a metalic grey possibly but to have impact it needs to be strong metalic similar to say negaro or the CSL grey

these days with water based paints, you dont realy get the sparcle and glittery effect celulose paints and base coats have.

for an example of the impact a colour has all you have to do is look at the AMG mercs, they look so dull and flat in silver, where as bmw and audi have some really nice colurs which give their cars impact.

i'm building a car to have impact, and silver as colour was crossed of the list first for these reasons.
Kos i know exactly what you are saying.

silver imo is a boring colour but it is possible to get depth in the paint. i know it wont be as deep as other colours but it is possible.
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Kos wrote:
1an wrote:
Kos wrote: it'll be shiny but have no depth. .
Kos will have to disagree with you there fella. I get a deep reflective finish from mine every time.

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Hubble,

Now that is a blinging motor there.....excellent example of a Sport IMO

Nice one !!!

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Do our e30s have oil based paint? i know the old VWs do but what about us...
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siddiqi1 wrote:Hubble,

Now that is a blinging motor there.....excellent example of a Sport IMO

Nice one !!!

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i was a valetor for a while and used auto smart 'mirror image' imo its the dogs goolies
if there wern't people like me,
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hongkongfuey wrote:i was a valetor for a while and used auto smart 'mirror image' imo its the dogs goolies
Autosmart is very good stuff. I use it alongside my Swissvax products.
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Hubble,

Im planning on getting some BBS myslef, what are your ones and what profile tyre are you running?

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Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:23 pm

hubble, (sorry dont know your name) im glad you posted up the pictures of your car, as it proves exactly what i was saying earlier on in the thread.
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1an wrote:hubble, (sorry dont know your name) im glad you posted up the pictures of your car, as it proves exactly what i was saying earlier on in the thread.
Thanks 1an. Always glad to be of help :D
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Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:46 pm

I get a nice deep shine from mine too and thats silver
but you gotta have good paint to start with and mine wasnt too bad apart from where a scrote keyed it

had a go at polishing cirrus blue over the weekend
what a hard colour to work with
I find black can be a bit of a dog colour to work with too

Paul is that gold class polish I see there?
thats quite a good polish and not too hard to work with either

you should try the meguires stage 2 of the set
then a nice wax to go over it should give some nice results

Hubble put those pictures away :D
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tylerma wrote:Hubble put those pictures away :D

Sorry tylerma - you know how she loves being in the spot light :D ....So attention seeking :roll:
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she is a credit to ya mate
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