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Post Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:46 pm

Hey guys
looking to get some new wheels on the car im looking at 9" on the back 8) and mabe 8.5" on the front, Just courios if any one knows the weight of wheels like bbs rs, borbet and the standerd 15" wheels i got on mine now.

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Post Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:53 pm

about 20-25kg each with tyres.
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Post Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:55 pm

which one are talking about?
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:01 am

Standard alloys. (just a guess though). Some of the traders may have a beetter idea as they have probably posted them in the past.
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:23 am

Too easy winkeye
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:31 am

I have a bare 15" bbs in the garage & I'll weigh the RS's at the same time

the 8.5 rs002's are the same if not fractionally lighter than the 7.5 rs001's somehow - about ~6kg, the single piece are like 7.5, maybe more..

I have some BSA 14's at home & swear to god, with tires they are about the same as a bare 15" bbs, just depends if you can hack the lightweightiness combined with baloon tires :twisted:

borbets, borbet b's are like millstones
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:20 pm

mattrs wrote:about 20-25kg each with tyres.
My 17x8" M-Systems were 17.8kg each with tyres.. 215/40

My 17x8.5 BBS RS' were lighter.

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Post Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:46 am

Barx325i wrote:
borbets, borbet b's are like millstones
Just checked on the bathroom scale, Borbet B 16x9 with 225/40 tire and it came in at around 17-18kg.
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Post Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:53 pm

That's not too bad..
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Post Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:17 pm

that's what I thought.. A little lighter than the evidence suggests by all accounts, but depends what tire, how close to the canvas it is, and how accurate your bathroom scales are.. If you're saying it's lighter than it is, you're just kidding yourself..

The reason I slag borbets is because my B 7.5's were noticeably (and I mean oooh) heavier than the equivalent hartges..

The thing is, it's all well and good saying wheels are light, but weight distribution and gyroscopic effect at speed is a factor, it's all apparent where the dosh has gone when you're tanking along

To be truthful, tire weight is more important than wheel weight
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Post Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:35 pm

My 9.5j RS's weigh in at just under 8kgs without tyres. :D
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Post Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:57 pm

Just tried it on a digital bathroom scale for the laugh, 14.7kg. Tried a few different locations of loading the scale and got the same reading each time. I've no idea how accurate that scale it though!

Wonder how much heavier they are than your RS' Rav!

This is by no means a scientific experiment and don't take my measurements as fact! :D
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Post Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:40 am

I bought some bathroom scales recently and they seem fairly reliable, but feel some calibration is in order... they're not set up to weigh <10kg really

imo it'll help if it's spring over digital but then, do you weigh the wheel itself? or subtract your weight from the one read with you holding the wheel?

I get different values with both these methods.

Kitchen scales run out of boing at 5kg
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Post Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:25 am

Get them onto some decent scales. :mad:
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Post Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:46 am

Hehe, these scales are not very accurate! The 14.7kg was with the wheel on the scale, the earlier 17-18kg was with me standing on the scale and with and without the wheel.

I just did the same on the digital scale, stood on it with and without the wheel and get a different reading again, I get approx 23.2kg difference on the digital scale :mad: 23kg is probably closer to it's actual weight than 15-18kg was.
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Post Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:05 pm

Jozi wrote:Hehe, these scales are not very accurate! The 14.7kg was with the wheel on the scale, the earlier 17-18kg was with me standing on the scale and with and without the wheel.

I just did the same on the digital scale, stood on it with and without the wheel and get a different reading again, I get approx 23.2kg difference on the digital scale :mad: 23kg is probably closer to it's actual weight than 15-18kg was.
Fooling no one, but yourself :D Millstones like I say :(
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Post Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:38 pm

I know which scale I'll be using to weigh myself :D
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Post Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:40 pm

lol :D :mad:
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Post Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:58 pm

Hartges weigh in at 7.8kgs each
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