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Post Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:43 pm

Hi All

I'm after your opinion on this audio set up for my 325 H reg Cab. Firstly 5 1/4 alround, 12" Sub in the rear.

Rears:
Alpine SPR-13C - http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/produc ... /5772.html

Fronts:
Alpine SPR-13S - http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/produc ... /5770.html

Sub:
Alpine SWR-1242D - http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/produc ... /3891.html

Then keeping with the theme I want to match the set up with Alpine AMPs either 1x4 channel amp or 2x2 channel amps for the speaks then a big mono block Alpine amp for the sub.

Your thoughts please.
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Post Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:57 pm

looks like an awsome setup

a mono block amp and a 4 channel would be best but will cost more £££££
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Post Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:08 pm

Cheers Alex, any advice on a box for the sub?
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Post Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:16 pm

not too sure what would be the best box tbh :?

my personal choice would be a sealed box as there more puncy

http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/produc ... /1009.html ????????

ive got the same box as that but mine is a cheapo 40 quid sub, not sure if a better/bigger box would be any better for yours :D
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Post Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:17 pm

Fronts should do the trick
Rears are OK but comps should be better

Sub is good enuff. make sure you fit it in the recommended volume enclosure

4 channel amp to run f+R and a mono or 2 channel to run he sub
run the sub at 2 ohms for efficiency
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Post Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:21 pm

dave, would comps in the rear sound much better than coxial 6.5" speakers if a sub is being used :D

sorry for thread hijack :P
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Post Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:30 pm

The ones i use do sound better, but they're in a tourer with an active crossover and time alignment

Sub produces loooooooooooow freq's in the 20hz-100hz area
You can't hear below 20hz and above 120hz is referred to as mid bass

Don't get me wrong, the ones listed above will still be better than the #OE setup

AND i'd hazard a guess and say the sub will require an enclosure of around 1 -1.25 cu ft for it to work at it's best
This is just a guide as i'd need the Thiele small parameters to work it outor look at the documentation that comes with it re optimum cabinet size
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Post Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:36 pm

what do you recon to some 6.5" infinity coaxials and some seperate tweeters in the rear, i like a fair bit of bass and treble :P
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Post Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:54 pm

Alex.

The co ax's have a small tweeter nuilt in.
No need to fit another set
IF you do, make sure they have an inline passive x-over or high pass filter so they only get the higher freq's
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Post Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:01 pm

:cool: yer just wonderd if having another would do anything, the tweeters on mine have a switch to make them more brighter winkeye :mad:
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Post Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:11 pm

The switch will probably change the x-over frequency and possibly the slope as well

Could always adjust the treble a bit from the head unit
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Post Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:13 pm

yer ive got some comps in the front that are quite "bright" so they will do, i suppse extra noise from the rear aint going to do much anyway
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Post Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:17 pm

Your front setup should provide most of your sound
Rears are just to provide "ambience" in a properly designed/setup system
You should be able to close your eyes and just hear everything at dash level(with the car stationary and handbrake on)
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Post Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:18 pm

You should be able to close your eyes and just hear everything at dash level

how to cause an accident :lol:
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Post Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:20 pm

Suitably edited
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Post Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:28 pm

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Post Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:46 pm

chisel wrote:Hi All

I'm after your opinion on this audio set up for my 325 H reg Cab. Firstly 5 1/4 alround, 12" Sub in the rear.

Rears:
Alpine SPR-13C - http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/produc ... /5772.html

Fronts:
Alpine SPR-13S - http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/produc ... /5770.html

Sub:
Alpine SWR-1242D - http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/produc ... /3891.html

Then keeping with the theme I want to match the set up with Alpine AMPs either 1x4 channel amp or 2x2 channel amps for the speaks then a big mono block Alpine amp for the sub.

Your thoughts please.
the best thing i did was to buy an alpine sub got the 15" version but make sure you get the box size right .Dont buy an off the shelf box build your own much better winkeye
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Post Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:29 pm

Any links to building your own sub boxes, going to build one for my cab as there is minimal space
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Post Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:46 pm

ImysE30 wrote:Any links to building your own sub boxes, going to build one for my cab as there is minimal space
i went to the alpine site and got all the info from them
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Post Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:51 pm

roley wrote:
ImysE30 wrote:Any links to building your own sub boxes, going to build one for my cab as there is minimal space
i went to the alpine site and got all the info from them
Cheers mate, i would of thought something like that would be copyright :? I've heard about special sites that you can get info from but can't remember any :cry:
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Post Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:55 pm

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ImysE30 wrote:Any links to building your own sub boxes, going to build one for my cab as there is minimal space
i went to the alpine site and got all the info from them
Cheers mate, i would of thought something like that would be copyright :? I've heard about special sites that you can get info from but can't remember any :cry:
Every manufacture has the information on their sites
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Post Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:57 pm

Oh right :o:
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Post Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:07 pm

Just make sure you use 3/4"mdf as a min size what size sub you using
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Post Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:20 pm

I don't know yet, space is a big issue in cab boots. Ideally i want to use up the space under where the roof folds into. I have measured that i have about 11" top to bottom so looking for probably 8", want 10" but probably too big
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Post Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:30 pm

For 8" check out MTX as they had a fantastic range of 8s big bass small speaker :mad:
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Post Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:34 pm

Will do, if i do go the 8" route then i'll probably get 3 winkeye
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Post Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:44 pm

should sound crazy dude :mad:
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Post Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:50 pm

Yeah hopefully once it's installed and fitted professionally. Got a mate who does custom installs so going to get him to do it, if not then do it myself :mad:
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Post Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:52 pm

Goodluck with it . off to work now :cry:
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Post Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:57 pm

Cheers mate, will post some pics when its done and a couple of vids as well. Am off home, just finishing now :D
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Post Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:24 pm

Going back to what was said earlier about the focus being on the front speakers, do you think it's worth while not buying the rears and spending more on the fronts to get a better set of comps?
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Post Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:34 pm

yes i think that would be a way to go and then uprate the rears at a later date
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Post Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:47 pm

Cheers Roley
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Post Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:47 pm

Looks ok for the front and rears you will need a heavier gauge for the sub