318iS Drift car (Volvo 760 turbo Intercooler)

[Dave_M3]

Last week I bought Beemertoms iS, I was so happy with it I decided I want to buy another for Trackdays & drifting

My Plan is to take the turbo, FMIC and oil Cooler from an old volvo I have and shoehorn it in beside an M42 while running on E85 ethanol.
I'm planning on 250 safely with a good Re-map. Then possibly 300 with Forging and a bigger turbo but the volvo unit will get me on my way

Car will have a full cage, Polybushed, front and rear strutbraces, Koni/Bilstein set up. And a z3 rack.

Toms car will under go more practical mods such as pop out rear windows, SE skirts, cruise control, 2 obc etc. I want the best two E30's in Ireland, I possibly have 1 already since last week


All I need is a donor car for the drift/ track project now

[MJG]

An s50b30 would make a better engine for a drift car, or an m50b25, or an m30b35. Little engines running shonky turbo kits will not generally make it very easy due to turbo lack, and the desire to not be abused much.

[JOGA]

An s50b30 would make a better engine for a drift car, or an m50b25, or an m30b35. Little engines running shonky turbo kits will not generally make it very easy due to turbo lack, and the desire to not be abused much.

M52B28 would also be a very good option. Lighter than the M50 and wich should mean a more balanced handling...

[Dave_M3]

Ya, but I havent got the money to do a big engine coversion, I can do this for free since I have all the bits more or less. Wat do ye mean about small engines wqith big boost being bad drift cars, When was the last time ye saw a Skyline drift better than a Silvia and why would a friend of mine be putting in a 450BHP Sr20det into an iS if he could just as easily have the same power from an S50. because he always rattles on about the 4 pot handling, and he'd know hes had over 20-30 e30's

Im sorry like but I think this route isnt a bad idea. When the engine goes bang I can always get an S14. But this drift car will be only for starting out.

Im even more determined to do this because everybody says I cant do it
I'll be on PBBMW with the two E30's on the driveway within 2 years

[oldroydsr4]

Personally i think 250bhp using old volvo parts is slighly ambitious.

You need to consider C:R, management etc it won't be cheap

An m30 can be done for approx £500.

This will provide the torque and power required to drift with reliability included.

It might be slightly heavy and promote understeer in a track situation but once the rear wheels are spinning and the drift has been setup this won't be a problem.

[MJG]

I wasn't by any stretch saying you can't do it, just saying it seems a bit of a wank idea. It will either be a bodge, lucky, or expensive.

Power, reliability, cheap. Pick two.

[Dave_M3]

I wasn't by any stretch saying you can't do it, just saying it seems a bit of a **** idea. It will either be a bodge, lucky, or expensive.

Power, reliability, cheap. Pick two.

Mark those words. She'll be an amimal!

And even if it does blow up, sher who the f**k cares, I tried doing something differnent. I can always source an SR20/S2000/S14 then when I get abit more money to spend but like I have a perfect turbo in the volvo just lying there. Im in 1st year of college (mechanical engineering) and only 19 years old, How many people do ye know that turbo'd a car and built it to be a track/drift car.
The more ye say I cant do it the harder I'll try make it work, so keep going if ye like

[Si316]

Mark those words. She'll be an amimal!

And even if it does blow up, sher who the f**k cares, I tried doing something differnent.

Good on ya dude! Good luck with it. I had alot of people tell me that messing around with my m10 engine was a waste of time. Its good to be different tho!

[Dave_M3]

Nearly bought the drift car now

[MJG]

Again not saying you can't do it, I'm sure you can - and good luck to you. Just wouldn't bother myself with the current price of 6-pots.

Will most likely be a big improvement and great fun, maybe even faster than a 335 etc but seems like a hard way of doing things. I can see what you mean though about handling, which is fair enough Good luck to you.

M3 bushes aren't the best btw. Rosejoints are where it's at ;) That's what I'm going to slowly be converting mine too.

[tim_s]

I don't agree with most of the pessimism on here, think this is a spot on idea, and that 250bhp on a T3 is a reasonable aim. Think it would destroy all but the very fastest sixes.

The standard internals seem to be pretty bullet-proof, an MLS HG would prob be a good idea, get a nice thick one and drop the CR down a bit for safety.
similar projects to this have been carried out before on the m42 with good results.

[Dave_M3]

Thanks Tim, Your kind of the person I got inspiration from. My first plan was do the same as you. stroke her using M44 crank and rods. Then get a leaf from Ants book with a Turbo conversion. Think I'll wait till the standard internals start complaining, then put in Forged M44 ones in.

Ahh but you see the CR is the best bit about it. I'm converting her to E85 ethanol. Its 104 ron, so I might get away with normal compression since she wont knock. Ahh, I just let my secret weapon out of the bag now

I'll be putting the cooling rad in the back where the rear seat back was, then Two huge Vents cut into a set of M3 rear arches, air will exit out thru a vent in the boot lid towards the M3 Evo 2 sport rear spoiler.

And they said Its a stupid Idea. If the engine does eventually go BANG in a big way I'll get an S14.

I'll get up a few pics of what it'll turn out like in the end with Photo shop over the weekend, Right now I got to Study for the rest of my Exams

[Dave_M3]

I wasn't by any stretch saying you can't do it, just saying it seems a bit of a **** idea. It will either be a bodge, lucky, or expensive.

Power, reliability, cheap. Pick two.

Nah, I want all of them to be totally honest with ya mate, Why make compromises in life

[Dave_M3]

I have the money now anyway. GBE30's iS will get a new lease of life from next Wednesday on

I'll keep ye all posted anyway, Dont think I'll be really starting to build it till September cause I'll use up her Mot & Tax 1st. I'll be stripping it straight away alright though. She'll be a 2 seater for the Summer.

[tomtomiS]

good luck to you, its good to see somebody with plans for an m42

[MJG]

The boot mounted radiator didn't seem to work for the drifty sumo power 350z very well. Make sure you get the vents huge!!!!

And I am not a fucking pessimist, I think fair play, but I think personally I would not bother for those results and that effort.

[pete1979]

im on with 2 at the moment a 318 cabby for what it cost iv put a m20b25 in and t3 turbo seems to be going cheap at the moment but like the guys said to run a turbo stock ecu will need to be scrapped ms set up lookin at £500 dont forget the little things all the pipein of ya boost hoses i spent £200 on pipes alone and as for driftin iv got another 318 (hardtop) and put the e39 4.4 v8 in all alloy so its lite and if 250 is easy for the little 4 pot well im lookin forward to what the 6 pot pulls when done ............. plus 6 potters sound sexy lol

[Dave_M3]

Ya, but Im doing everthing myself, all welding such as making manifolds etc. Im using DTA management now as its what my College Engine development Lecturer wants me to use, I'm not going to complain if he gives me free Dyno time to be honest.

I could go with a 6 pot, but I really want to try the M42 first since as when I cant go any furrther with it I can just drop it straight into my road car, All insurance will know its a standard engine with a turbo bolted on and Tax will still be cheap(its not 170quid for everthing over here, 450 for a 318 and 900 for a 325 ). So that way I get a turbo'd road car with a race tuned engine. It'll make bits of everything when I use full boost when I want to but just cruising along on .5 bar with a whistle of a wastegate in an E30 will be reward enough

[MJG]

Having free dyno time and someone to help you map it yourself will save LOADS of money, that's a big advantage of your situation by the sounds of it.

By all means good luck, and as an experiment it will be good.

[e30_Turbo]

Instead of E85 have you considered LPG?

Safer, cheaper and more economical, although like me economy isn't top of my priorities

The LPG properties suit turbo applications so well, just a pity no ones actually tried as yet on the zone.

HTH, Mark.

[tim_s]

i have LPG, just no turbo! I've not managed to get mine running quite as fast as petrol yet, though a few recent changes should help a lot. I've sent off my LPG injectors to be refurbed and drilled to allow more gas in as im maxxing the system at full load/high rpm, also got MS2 now so can add an lpg sparks map. best bit for me is the reduction in running cost, my set up has paid itself off already.

[Dave_M3]

Nah, I want to give E85 a go since all my mates are talking about it, Were all thinking of changing our road cars to it, One guy got a nissan 200SX for 220bhp to 270bhp just be the conversion and making use of the fuels potential by a new re-map.

Even some of my mates are doubting me now So I'm definitly going ahead to show that I can do it. All the important people think I can do it, My Dad, My college engine development lecturer( hence dyno time, as long as I can assure him it wont blow up on the rollers ) and a few local motorfactors (cheaper parts then)

even if it takes as long as my college course (5 years) it'll still be worth it in the end

[Dave_M3]

Have most of the interior out now. Carpets rear door cards, the boot is completely bare. Only thing remains is are the seats(since Im driving the car at the moment) the centre console and the dash(less the glove box)
I was bored one day so I said I might as well get started on her.
Very funny watching peoples faces as they sit into the car
And then saying( will the wires on the ground give me a shock?

Must try scrape off some of the sound proofing tomoro off the floor and in inside of the quarter panels. And take a few pics of her...

[MJG]

Cool nice work. I've done the same to my new one, but I'm leaving the glove box in as it's surprisingly annoying having no storage area in a stripped out car. My e28 had nothing apart from the gauge binnacle which for the most part didn't work, 2 buckets, and also you had the luxury of the front 2 windows winding up and down manually. I probably won't go that extreme on the e30 yet, will wait til I've done all the other work first.

This e30 is time to remove stuff I don't need/want, like bumper supports, sound deadening, boot trim etc. I do love the feeling of a stripped out car on the road though, and at burger king etc lol.

Anyway how's the engine coming along?

[Dave_M3]

Ya, its gas. I decided to throw out the centre console althogether too today (so much for the bothe of puttin it back in after taking out the carpets ) and I put the switches up in the dash( in place of the rear windscreen dimister and the other blank, actually kinda looks professional job( apart from the gaps )

Me and a few friends went into a drive thru earlier. Was funny looking at the surprised look on the person behind the window. Was handy too when you dont have to worry about chips etc getting mashed into carpets...
Was funny too at the toll, "If I had somewhere to put the change I would have had it ready now"
The sound proofing is a prick to get off though.
Has any one any ideas on how to get the lining off the underside of the bonnet without tearing it since its perfect, and thats rare.

No real developments on the engine yet, only more research. Saw a greek E36iS turbocharged runnning over 500bhp with standard internals which is encouraging. Think I'll only need a MLS head gasket and low compression rods and a maybe a bigger oil pump by the looks of things since everything is forged steel already
So then its just all the small things. Managment will be the only other big expense. Manifolds I'll make myself so thats nearly another 1000 I'll save. Love to get a set of M3 ITBs, any idea on what they're value is?

[brian325i]

goodluck with this,id say you'll need it,i heard about the sr20det e30 about 2 years ago in rosegreen,there is already a s2000 powered e30 , an m3 3litre e30,and an m3 evo powered e30 in the drifting,oh and billy's 24v ,and if mine starts then there will be another m50 there

[kish]

I know you guys like to stay with the german engines and I recon BMW E30 Awsome car!! looks great, handles great but, wheres the engine?? ok the 325 and the 2.7 lumps are excelent but they drink more than i do! Bin your bimmer engine and shove a Nissan SR20DET up its arse. Its a 2litre engine with ok petrol returns and with not much messing around you have 350HP reliable!

Kish

[Dave_M3]

Thanks but my Dad wants to stay with the BMW engine and see what we can do, Plus I've already commited to the engine now so I cant turn back. We'll probably be welding in our own cage now too by the looks of things and Seam welding it (how do you get a Poll deleted by the way since its not being listened to anyway )

Its a 2litre engine with ok petrol returns and with not much messing around you have 350HP reliable!

Until the Bottom end goes LOL.
If I wanted an SR20 I'd have to buy the engine, rebuild the whole lot since the bottom end is more than likely already going. Thats around 2K straight away. Whereas this way I'm doing something abit different.
I'm not going to get into the "Its a stupid Idea debate again"
I just want to post about the project as it unfolds now

@Brian, Ah sher the more the merrier. An all BMW semi final in the prodrift would be nice , That M3 evo powered 318iS is unreal. Was like majic the other day at Watergrasshill doing dissappearing acts in clouds of smoke. Be nice to see what Finbars will turn out like
That Sr20 E30 will probably be another two years before it is SEEN at rosegreen It'll be worth the wait though...
Would you hurry up and get that M50 going, Exams are over now, no more excuses... I want to see it killing V-tecs. haha

[Dave_M3]

Photos taken today I'm trying to get them up on photobucket now

Stripped the rest of the interior out today too, took the fogs out etc. Next is another go at the soundproofing in the footwells and door skins and quater panels, might try using a heat gun, as I want to buy one anyway.

I've decided to make her a non sunroof model as well, take out the existing electric unit and with abit sheet metal, of MIG welding, filler sanding and paint it wont be too difficult, only patience needed and I've loads of that for E30s