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Post Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:29 am

Hi guys
Making progress with my M30 into 318i lux touring project now
Removed the m30 from the e34 yesterday together with the gearbox but intend cleaning it up and replacing the clutch before fitting it in the e30.
Do i need to remove any of the sound deadening from the tunnel/bulkhead from the touring or will it not be in the way? Is there a need to modify in any way the tunnel or bulkhead in any other way??
Which gearbox crossmember do i use the e34 one or one from an e30???
Which pins need changing before i can plug the e34 loom into the main car loom on the 318????
Does anyone else make the engine mounting brackets or do i have to swallow the 199 euros + post from tino?????
Which rubber mounts do i use in conjunction with the above???????
There will be more questions i am sure but these will do for now :D
Cheers guys
Spadge...
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Post Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:44 am

I had a spare set of engine brackets made up if you are interested. They will be cheaper even with postage than the e30.de ones and I believe they are stronger. With them I did not have to remove any sound deadening or modify the trans tunnel or firewall. The engine sits nicely with enough room for the the E28 535i radiator. I made special care to make sure the engine was square and low as possible before I designed the brackets up. You use the 325i rubber mounts. You use the E30 gearbox crossmember and mounts. I think I have answered most of your questions there. If your car is a facelift model the other guys would be able to give you a better idea of the wiring for the engine plug. If you are interested in the brackets I will get the price for you (the engineering shop hasnt given me the bill yet). Cheers.
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Post Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:31 pm

m10man.. Where n oz are you?

Spadge.. if you can wait till after xmas.. Im heading back home again.. and can pick up. But I know what your like.. so you'll need it sdooner!;)

Oh.. Can I get a price asswell?
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Post Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:49 pm

m10man
Thanks for the reply and advice
I'm interested in your mounts but would need them within the next 10 days so delivery may be a problem by then?

Colin
You know me mate the engine is sitting here nearly ready to go in and i don't hang about :wink:
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Post Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:54 pm

Right - here goes !

I have a 1988 325i se and used a 1988 E34 535i engine, gearbox, ecu and engine wiring loom.

I used the E30.de engine mount brackets from Tino and I have used position 3 (furthest back).
I did take ALL the soundproofing off the bulkhead - to save weight and make room (I have read of gearbox bell housing bolts being buried in it)! I cheated a little here too as I cut the top bolt lug off the gearbox so when I have to take the box out again when my clutch explodes it will save hassle and knuckle skin! I used (new) standard E30 325i mounting rubbers. M30 gearbox fits in E30 tunnel but I had to extend the reverse light switch wires by about 6" and wished I plugged it in before the exhaust was on!

I had to knock the bulkhead in about 1.5"-2" just behind where the cylinder head is. I got my engine in position 2 first without the gearbox on, saw where I needed to hit it with a hammer, tilted the engine forward and gave it a good whacking! It's just next to the battery tray.

You need to use the E30 cross member, E30 or E34 rubber mounts will work here. It works for any engine position as the bolts have square heads that can slide in a slot to suit the position (almost as if BMW catered for engine conversion)! :D

My main wiring problem is that the heater didn't work when I got it running. Just needed the black and green wire on the E30 part of the big plug (C101) cutting and connecting to the smallest terminal on the starter motor. There are two wires in the plug that need swapping (can't remember which, there is a thread on the Zone with the info or I can have a look at my car another time if you get stuck) that enables the 'swingometer' economy( :eek: ) guage to work. Engine should run just by plugging the two looms together though.
Apart from that I just moved my coil slightly so those wires reached, moved my earth point on the right hand suspension strut top so the earth wires reached and turned the ecu round 180 degrees in the standard place - the wires do just reach with carefull routing!

Hope this helps!
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Post Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:03 pm

DRIFTBOY wrote:Right - here goes !

I have a 1988 325i se and used a 1988 E34 535i engine, gearbox, ecu and engine wiring loom.

I used the E30.de engine mount brackets from Tino and I have used position 3 (furthest back).
I did take ALL the soundproofing off the bulkhead - to save weight and make room (I have read of gearbox bell housing bolts being buried in it)! I cheated a little here too as I cut the top bolt lug off the gearbox so when I have to take the box out again when my clutch explodes it will save hassle and knuckle skin! I used (new) standard E30 325i mounting rubbers. M30 gearbox fits in E30 tunnel but I had to extend the reverse light switch wires by about 6" and wished I plugged it in before the exhaust was on!

I had to knock the bulkhead in about 1.5"-2" just behind where the cylinder head is. I got my engine in position 2 first without the gearbox on, saw where I needed to hit it with a hammer, tilted the engine forward and gave it a good whacking! It's just next to the battery tray.

You need to use the E30 cross member, E30 or E34 rubber mounts will work here. It works for any engine position as the bolts have square heads that can slide in a slot to suit the position (almost as if BMW catered for engine conversion)! :D

My main wiring problem is that the heater didn't work when I got it running. Just needed the black and green wire on the E30 part of the big plug (C101) cutting and connecting to the smallest terminal on the starter motor. There are two wires in the plug that need swapping (can't remember which, there is a thread on the Zone with the info or I can have a look at my car another time if you get stuck) that enables the 'swingometer' economy( :eek: ) guage to work. Engine should run just by plugging the two looms together though.
Apart from that I just moved my coil slightly so those wires reached, moved my earth point on the right hand suspension strut top so the earth wires reached and turned the ecu round 180 degrees in the standard place - the wires do just reach with carefull routing!

Hope this helps!

Thats great mate thanks for all the info :clap:
Thanks for the earlier pm as well sorry i hadn't got round to replying yet!
I think thats it for now but don't hold your breath lol :wink:
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Post Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:09 pm

No worries!

I got a lot of my info from this site so it's only right I give some back when I can.

I'm never far away from the Zone so feel free to ask questions any time.

Good luck!
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Post Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:25 pm

DRIFTBOY wrote:No worries!

I got a lot of my info from this site so it's only right I give some back when I can.

I'm never far away from the Zone so feel free to ask questions any time.

Good luck!
Cheers mate!
Maybe you could pm me your number in case i need to ask a quick Q when knee deep in oil as is bound to happen :D
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Post Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:38 pm

You have pm!
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Post Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:29 pm

m10man.. Where n oz are you?
I am in Northern NSW between the Gold Coast and Byron Bay. Where are you from?
I'm interested in your mounts but would need them within the next 10 days so delivery may be a problem by then?
I dont think I can get them to you in that short a time sorry. Fritz Bitz make M30 to E30 brackets - might be worth checking their price. Best of luck mate!
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Post Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:00 pm

Driftboy - I don't mate winkeye
m10man - cheers anyway i'll have a nunt around but will most likely end-up paying big bucks for them as i hate waiting too long for bits.

Stripped the m30 down to just head and block today as i am going to paint it (no lairy colours) and replace all the gaskets etc....
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Post Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:17 pm

You should have pm now!

And here was my bare block after honing and painting!

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Post Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:20 pm

DRIFTBOY wrote:You should have pm now!

And here was my bare block after honing and painting!

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No i don't x 2 lol :cry:
Nice pic though :wink:

Another question
Will i need to change the 318i fuel pump?

Cheers Spadge..
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Post Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:03 pm

Thanks! It took about 2days to get the block looking like that!

I've tried pm'ing twice just now and nothing is getting sent! :cry:

What the hell - my mobile number is 07702 106307. I don't care putting it out here! Can't use it at work though so 6pm - 1am and weekends is best.

Don't know about 318i fuel pump but standard 325i is up to the job, don't know if they are the same.