ULTIMATE ENGINE FOR A E30 ???

[bootyman]

Girls as you know my engine is shagged and i'm now looking for a new engine to put in the Rieger, but cant decide. Foe me the ultimate engine you can have in a E30 is Prism Msports 750bhp monster, but it probably cost as much as my car, so what else do you ladies think will be ideal, ie V8, V12, S778549, S98521 or something else

[buster]

all depends ben on how much,whos doing it and how long.

For simplicity stick the m20 back in,maybe a turbo conversion.
Or m50,a bit more involved but a good conversion,same with the m30,there are loads of choices.
S50's a good en but tricky and expensive and not so common,as is the v8 stuff.

choices choices

[e30_Turbo]

I've seen the 330i lump in a e30 but not seen a new e46 M3 lump in one as yet.

Ultimate has gotta be the M5 3.8 with a HX50 and 1250bhp+!!

Realistacally tho a M20 with 750bhp and a huge turbo would be cheaper but from what I have heard the M3 3ltr engine + Fi will make a awesome power plant as they are supposed to be very very strong.

Which is your main concern tho Ben? Power or looks?

If your thinking "booty" prices then I'd speak to PPF in Sweden as a fellow zoner has just had his engine built there and it's gonna rock e30's in this country bigtime

Mark.

[bootyman]

Has to be something that makes people gasp when you pop ypu bonnet. No point having a highly modded car, pimp interior and a pea shooter lump

[buster]

I'd speak to PPF in Sweden as a fellow zoner has just had his engine built there and it's gonna rock e30's in this country bigtime

Mark.

who and what they having done ?? big power turbo conversion i hope

[bootyman]

Buster it has to have both. No point in having a fat looking engine and being cained by Saxo's

I did speak to PPF before and he was quoting £7k for about 500bhp turbo set up. The main thing i worry about is reliability. See Prism's M3 runs 750bhp, but that's a reliable 750bhp, cause it goes to races and is constantl hitting silly speeds for sustained periods and it all good. It also doesn't need an engine rebuild every 5 minutes. To me that's a bad boy engine cause it has the power, looks and reliablility too

[buster]

and its a rover v8
good motor though.

I think those PPF engines will be reliable though.

[Geoff]

at the end of the day I would love to say i have 700bhp in my car just for the bragging rights but in the real world you would never be able to use it. Even more so i suspect in a cab.

Unless you've got 17" slicks on the back you can think again about laying all that power down.

So the criteria reads that you've got a pimp motor, a pimp interior, a pimp sound system and you need a pimp engine. I would definately opt for a chevy small/big block running 48 IDA's. For 1 its going to fill the engine bay and with a touch of chrome here and there is going to look mental. 2 the soundtrack would be awesome..think Nascar. 3 Its going to be reliable for all of 500bhp on a big block with torque to match so will be more than adequate and should scare the new M5 once you've stopped wheelspinning!!

Given the moeny etc etc, those would be my choices straight away.

[bootyman]

Just look at those flames and i'll say no more

[Ant]

Ben, lets drop a small block chevy in there with a TPi kit ( injection, no carb wrongness) best bang for buck you'll ever get, crated brand new engines and trans from next door to me , not a problem

think of all the engine dress up parts available too , and it starts to look like an obvious choice

300-500 bhp in a box, and reliable to boot, cant be bad !

[buster]

Ben, lets drop a small block chevy in there with a TPi kit ( injection, no carb wrongness) best bang for buck you'll ever get, crated brand new engines and trans from next door to me , not a problem

think of all the engine dress up parts available too , and it starts to look like an obvious choice

300-500 bhp in a box, and reliable to boot, cant be bad !

yeah i agree with Ant,nice and powerfull,bullet proof sound awesome,different to the norm,loads of stuff to upgrade for bling bits and they look awesome

[bootyman]

So how much would i have to remortgage my house for them

[buster]

crate motors around the 3-5 k mark from the states,depends on what you go for.

[Ant]

what output are you wanting ?

auto or maunal trans ?

tubular headers ?

will nedd custom propshaft( no hassles)

carbs or EFI ( efi efi efi ! )

how much do you need it dressed ? R/covers or full monty inc timing covers, pulleys, polished intake dipstick tube etc etc, all is readily available from 10 paces outside my front door

trust me dude, this is by far the best all round choice, the engine will be brand new and carry a GM warranty, same goes for the gearbox too dude

hey, I'm getting tempted myself

[buster]

lol,me too.I can see a v8 e30 project coming !
Id probably go the cheaper option though and drop in a 3.9 with efi and cam and go from there.That engine alone should run 200 hp.The standard 3.9 in my rangie is 185 ,not a lot but they can be tuned on the cheap as and when.

[bootyman]

Only problem is that the purists will never accept the car. Not that i'm bothered about what anyone thinks, but the engine is the heart of the car and changing that would mean changing the identity of the car. Can you not just lend me some money so i can have the monster form Prism

[Ant]

changing the identity of the car

Never happen mate, it will always be the bootywagon

besides, open the hood to reveal the chevrolet LS1 engine and all people would say is, where from, how much !

Sorry, but as I live next door to a corvette specialist restorer, I kinda caught the V8 plague.

[bootyman]

Let me go speak to my Bank Manager and i'll be back lol

[e30_Turbo]

I'd speak to PPF in Sweden as a fellow zoner has just had his engine built there and it's gonna rock e30's in this country bigtime

Mark.

who and what they having done ?? big power turbo conversion i hope

Ow yes mate, he's spunked £9k+ and will have the fat end of 750bhp

From the work they have done and the fact they've done so many makes me think it will be realiable, well made and look fantastic.

It also has the £Â£Ã‚£BLING£Â£Ã‚£Ã‚£ factor as the inlet mani is custom made and polished, the exhaust mani the same and rest is one off parts that look awesome.

I'll try get a pic on here later!

Ben, if you want to speak to Dan about this I'll send you his email addy, he lives not far from Ant in Kent so not too far away and I know he has the engine in the country although not sure about what stage he's at with regard to fitting it.

Mark.

[dips346]

a lot of people slated wanye when he had a ls1 engine in his orange car.the car looked awesome but the engine was talked about as a no no, i still think a bmw engine with some hardcore tuning or the mighty v8 as i have one in mine at 510 lb of toque..lol

[bootyman]

Ive seen this car and it looks like an old BM. but would embarrass most high powered cars. Wait til you see Dips's other baby

Fozy i'd love to see it. I'm back from Italy the end of next month and i will be moving back in my crib, which is only down the road from Lakeside so would love to see it

[e30_Turbo]

Fozzy i'd love to see it. I'm back from Italy the end of next month and i will be moving back in my crib, which is only down the road from Lakeside so would love to see it

Cool, I'll speak to Dan during the week and find out where he is at with it......... will let you know!

Mark.

[320Touring]

I was watching 'overhaulin'

it was the one with Jay Leno and the '56 chevy nomad.

they put a "crate" motor in it, 572ci (9.3l or thereabouts)

giving about 675bhp straight out the box.

It had billet alloy pullies and looked uberpimp!



All New 4 Bolt Main Engine

Forged Steel Crankshaft

Forged Steel Connecting rods

J&E Forged Pistons 9.6:1 Compression

Plasma - Moly Rings

Heavy Duty Double Roller Timing Set

Canfield Aluminum Cylinder Heads 119cc

2.25/1.88 stainless steel valves, hardened valve locks, chrome moly retainers, Heavy Duty Valve Springs and Screw in Studs

Custom Hydraulic Roller Camshaft Duration @ 050 255/265, Lift 629/629

Hardened Seats for running Unleaded fuel

Hydraulic Roller Lifters

High Performance pushrods (1-piece)

Crane Rocker Rockers 1.7 ratio

Melling High Volume Oil pump

Complete Fel-pro Gasket set

High RPM torsional damper

New Flexplate for Automatic Trans.
(Standard Flywheel extra)

Oil pan, Timing cover and Polished Aluminum Valve Covers

Brodix Single Plain Intake Manifold

1050cfm Carburetor

New High Flow Water pump

New Fuel Pump

MSD Race Prepped High Energy Ignition Distributor w/ 53,000 volt coil Pak

New Spark plugs gapped and installed

8mm High Temp Resistant Silicone Wires

New Chrome Thermostat Housing

14 Inch Chrome Air Cleaner

PCV and Breather Installed

New Fuel Lines and Gas Filter

Oil Filter, Dipstick and Diptube

Mini High Torque Starter

Ignition Timing Set, Carburetor fully adjusted

Hot Run tested and dialed In place

Video Footage with engine running in our test Stand for your personal record

Balanced , Blueprinted and Painted with a High Temperature Enamel Paint

Packaged and Crated for Shipment

$14,395.00 for complete assembly

[Gouki]

Get a V8 lump put in without question, either that chevvy block or how about the V8 outta the 740i?

[jaistanley]

I think an LS1 in standard tune or with a little tweaking via new ecu will set your hair alight! It's a very light engine too so wont affect your handling balance.

No more difficult to do than other swaps mentioned here and cheaper than the crate engine mentioned above...

Jai

[Jhonno]

LS1 would be awesome imo..

either that or a big power m20 turbo..

[Morat]

I'm not for the V8, its out of a crate - its been done before. (OK, not by me!).

I'd say the ultimate has to be a BMW V12 in there, with chrome/black covers and manifolds. Its not going to give 750bhp, but is all that body kit really designed for 750bhp? 300+ will still shift your bootywagon....

[bootyman]

I agree with yoy morat. Besides i'd rather have a reliable and fatastic looking 350bhp, than a unreliable 750bhp Ok a Ford Escort engine it is then

[Jhonno]

I'm not for the V8, its out of a crate - its been done before. (OK, not by me!)

and the bmw v12 has never been put into an e30 before.. not at all

[e30_Turbo]

New M5 V10, 507bhp of realiable german engineering!! Not been done as far as I know, which is very little to be fair.

It's gotta be worth it just for the "POWER BUTTON" on the dash!!

[tylerma]

stick a 1.8 M40 in there Ben

that'll make them gasp when you pop the bonnet lol


seriously mate
I would go for some sort of V8
either the LS1 or the 4.4 BMW V8

[Jhonno]

New M5 V10, 507bhp of realiable german engineering!! Not been done as far as I know, which is very little to be fair.

It's gotta be worth it just for the "POWER BUTTON" on the dash!!

i think your looking @10k for the engine alone there.. also if Glenn thought the e39 V8 into e30 was a wiring headache.. then this would be worse, Hartge have put it into an e90 and had major issues!!

would be awesome tho dont get me wrong

[E30BeemerLad]

Jap 6 pot turbo, the car lost it's innocence when you tacked that phat kit on it booty, why stay with tradition/ be BMW faithful in the engine roon dept?

2JZ-GTE lump out of a MK4 Supra Twin Turbo, junk the twin tubs and go for a big single, FMIC & Dastek Unichip, bish-bosh 450RWHP all day long and depending on how deep your pockets are/ how sadistic you wanna be, 1200BHP is possible. The toyota JZ engines are much more reliable than the RB units in the Skylines and they are easier to get gains in BHP from.

Guestimate for the above engine, inc bolt ons......£3-5K

not sure on the gearbox end of things, but the 6sp manual on the supra can take plenty of punishment.

Forget your jap phobias, Toyota stuff is properly built.

[dazleeds]

Jap 6 pot turbo, the car lost it's innocence when you tacked that phat kit on it booty, why stay with tradition/ be BMW faithful in the engine roon dept?

2JZ-GTE lump out of a MK4 Supra Twin Turbo, junk the twin tubs and go for a big single, FMIC & Dastek Unichip, bish-bosh 450RWHP all day long and depending on how deep your pockets are/ how sadistic you wanna be, 1200BHP is possible. The toyota JZ engines are much more reliable than the RB units in the Skylines and they are easier to get gains in BHP from.

Guestimate for the above engine, inc bolt ons......£3-5K

not sure on the gearbox end of things, but the 6sp manual on the supra can take plenty of punishment.

Forget your jap phobias, Toyota stuff is properly built.

i have been waiting for your input lee

[glenn]

New M5 V10, 507bhp of realiable german engineering!! Not been done as far as I know, which is very little to be fair.

It's gotta be worth it just for the "POWER BUTTON" on the dash!!

and fab's have one in for breaking right now