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Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:08 pm

Toby I've got a spare M30 3.5 out of an E28 and I'm quite sure the oil filter housing is still attached (although I think it has the feed for an oil cooler) Do you have a picture of the one you need so I can check what I have is correct?? if it's what you need you can have it mate, just cover the postage. :cool:

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Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:15 pm

Yeah that'll do. it's easy to bridge the oil cooler connections (tbh i should really put a cooler on it :D )

it wants to look something like this...

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do ... g=11&fg=30

I'm happy to pay for it though mate :cool:

i'll send you a pm.
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:59 pm

today's pics...

plenum trial fitted to check clearance, seems fine. the plenum is isolated from the engine via rubber boots so will not transmit much vibration to the shell even if it occasionally touches.

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repositioned my golf coolant res now there's not an air intake in the way. i'm a bit concerned the outlet is low compared to the height of the thermostat housing/bleed screw. could do with looking at how high the late 325i res outlet is, as i think most m30 swaps are using this.

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dipstick tube adjusted to somewhere where you can (just about) use it :D

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finally, can someone plese tell me how you connect the heater matrix hoses on an M30 because I've forgotten AGAIN :banghead: :screwy: :x
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:09 pm

Lookin good Toby :thumb:

awesome dude, as always winkeye
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:16 pm

Pipe from thermostat housing goes to top of heater matrix,
pipe from top hose goes to bottom of heater matrix.

Good work as always dude!
Can't wait to see it finished! :thumb:
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:36 pm

Can't you use the M30 expansion tank any more ?
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:47 pm

there was never any bracket to support that triangular reservoir mate, and the bonnet clouted it everytime i shut it! and there's little room for piping at the back of the engine bay now. it wasn't ideal

this one should hopefully be fine. i haven't got an m20 325i one to use and the bracket it would mount on is long gone anyway!

which pipe does the res T into? i think it's the one that goes from the heater matrix to the stat housing?
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:53 pm

Toby_Unna wrote:there was never any bracket to support that triangular reservoir mate, and the bonnet clouted it everytime i shut it! and there's little room for piping at the back of the engine bay now. it wasn't ideal
Oh, i wasn't aware of the fitting issues you had using that tank, i was thinking of swapping mine over to one.
which pipe does the res T into? i think it's the one that goes from the heater matrix to the stat housing?
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:09 pm

Only just spotted this thread, awesome work dude :D
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:32 pm

You could use a 7 Series E32 expansion tank which bolts to the top of the bulkhead and sits above the cam cover.
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:34 pm

that's what i had on it Andy. 'sits above cam cover' in my case was 'sits on cam cover and smacks bonnet every time you shut it' :(
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:39 pm

Shame. It'd be made for the job!
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Slow progress due to darkness and coldness. :D

E28 oil filter housing sorted thanks (very much) to Charlie.

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few bits of coolant plumbing done in good old copper, not much else though :(

re the fpr, can anyone tell me (Ant?) which is the input (from fuel rail) and which is output (back to tank) 8)

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Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:08 pm

my guess is that one on bottom (one with hose on in pic) is the return and the one on the side from fuel rail
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Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:36 pm

Are they the oil cooler unions on the top of the filter housing ?

I like the copper work, i'm going to use it on my ICV if i ever get around to fitting it :roll: :)


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Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:23 pm

yeah they're the unions. going to bridge them for now but nice to have the option, will see how hot it runs once the boost's up a bit :twisted:

copper is nice to work with, i wish you could join aluminium that easily :(

didn't know you had an ICV, that sounds like a good idea... is it electric? is that a daft question? :D
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Like that new TB that i've been trying to sort out it's another Ford part from a Mondengo, two pin electric.

The three pin BMW ones arn't compatable with my ECU.

I tried fitting it ages ago but couldn't get it to work at the time, i might have another go at it over crimbo.
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Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:53 pm

getting there with these now (slowly!) :D

got a smaller TPS from a Sierra, cut down the throttle spindle and remade the TPS bracket, to free up room for the top radiator hose stub.

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to make the stub, i cut a section off a Transit inlet manifold :D

this just about fits in the available space, although it doesn't mate to the thermostat housing very accurately :?

will get this tig welded to the stat housing, then weld the original stub to the end of it. probably have to make a bleet screw up because this new stub is higher than the normal bleed nipple.

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once this is done that's (hopefully) the end of the tricky stuff...
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Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:16 pm

nice work Toby :cool:
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Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:25 am

won't be long now 8)
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Andy335Touring wrote:won't be long now 8)
hmm i hope not lol

few pics from today's frostbite spectacular :eek:

FPR mounted and plumbed in

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brake res re-fitted, doesn't hit the plenum now the master cylinder's been moved to the left which is a relief, no need for a remote res

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e28 oil cooler connections bridged for the time being!

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little bit closer then...
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:52 pm

What's left to finish ?
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:24 pm

oh plenty of stuff!

have cunningly avoided the porting in the adaptor plate so far, it's as you left it mate. Also need to sort out countersinking it etc for the mount bolts.

otherwise - sort out pressure signal lines to MS/WG/BOV/servo etc - though the air balance rail will be perfect.

fit injectors
sort top rad plumbing - found a nice thick walled aly tube at the breaker today with a few nice bends in it, so now i can take the coolant stub below rather than above the TPS. pleased with that. hopefully get it cut tomorrow ready to be welded, then it's just the rubber hoses to sort.

calibrate new TPS to MS

refit the MS harness along with a lot of jubilee clips :D

there's probably not much else actually 8)
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:38 pm

Shit the bed, that's gonna be a monster!

Do you go out onto the M1 at night looking for Coppers to taunt?
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:41 pm

the f**king thing is never actually running for more than 10 mins at a time. i live 15 mins from the m1 :(

but yeah on 7psi it's quicker than a 996 carrera winkeye
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Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:29 pm

Toby_Unna wrote:

but yeah on 7psi it's quicker than a 996 carrera winkeye
Make's you wonder how quick it will be on one bar ! 8)
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Find out soon enough ............ :twisted:
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Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:55 pm

is that coolant tank off a golf?
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i was gonna say that too.... sad innit! :D
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:01 pm

it's a parts bin special winkeye

got the coolant plumbing 100% sorted now, just waiting for a spot of tig welding on that front...

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:cool: Well done M8 !
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:09 pm

looking good :D

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Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:36 pm

I dribble a little bit every time I see pics of that engine! :drool:

Excellent stuff as always Toby! :thumb:
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