Beemerlad's M52 Chromie

Post Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:38 pm

nice one lee

Post Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:15 pm

Good stuff! I have to be honest I'm amazed you got that fannymould on - but fair play!

Shouldn't be long now, there can't be that much to do now! You'll be doing those donuts at the end of the road before you know it

Post Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:22 pm

Daf318is wrote:
E30Gheko wrote:Great work there fella! A real milestone indeed!

Quick question. I'm looking at your poly bushes on the front control arm and wondering how you got them into the lollipops? I'm having a nightmare trying to get mine in!
What's the problem Rob, I polybushed mine no problem - give me a call if you want. I just used some wood and a vice! Hell I even put one of mine in the wrong way round and had to get it back out again

Cheers Daf, Bob_s came to the rescue! I nipped up to his this avo. I have no vice is the problem! It's nigh on impossible to get them in without one!

Note to self... Must buy a vice....

Post Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:28 pm

E30Gheko wrote:
Daf318is wrote:
E30Gheko wrote:Great work there fella! A real milestone indeed!

Quick question. I'm looking at your poly bushes on the front control arm and wondering how you got them into the lollipops? I'm having a nightmare trying to get mine in!
What's the problem Rob, I polybushed mine no problem - give me a call if you want. I just used some wood and a vice! Hell I even put one of mine in the wrong way round and had to get it back out again
Cheers Daf, Bob_s came to the rescue! I nipped up to his this avo. I have no vice is the problem! It's nigh on impossible to get them in without one!

Note to self... Must buy a vice....

Fair enough

did Bob try and sell you some random crap?

! Just give me a shout if you need a vice - you can use mine and I'm only 5 mins away!

Post Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:55 pm

Why am I messing about with this inline six wrongness, been up the drag strip today, I NEED a small block chevy in my life.

Post Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:11 am

keri-WMS wrote:
Jhonno wrote:Too be fair, the S50 manifold is too big for the M50.. Any gains if any, would be at the top of the rev range due to the huge step from the port size to the manifold primaries.. Mine went ok with it on though, and sounded great!
From what I've been told (by flowbench-owning engine builders) it's nice to have a step from a small port to a large manifold, this acts to set up the shockwave that works to "tune" the manifold to scavange exhaust gasses at certain frequencies (ie "revs"). It also works as an anti-reversion lip to discourage exhaust gasses re-entering the port.

As the car has a "nicer exhaust note" that implies that the step IS creating extra resonance (the frequency is defined by the dia and length of the primaries).

Yes a small step is good.. Encourages a scavenging effect, especially for a cam'd motor, can help bring it on cam earlier, this however is a huge step! I should have taken a picture of the carbon build up round the ports on the M50 when I took the manifold off! It was amusing

Post Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:27 am

E30BeemerLad wrote:Why am I messing about with this inline six wrongness, been up the drag strip today, I NEED a small block chevy in my life.

It's the random posts on this thread that make it worth reading!!

Post Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:51 am

good show lee!
Glad you got it on. Should be oh so sweet now.

You cannot be far away now surely?

Post Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:51 am

Looking at that photo the purple inserts of your poly bushes are set to 'concentric' position, trather than eccentric (like the M3) which would improve handling further by adding castor....

Good work otherwise. What was done to those S50 manifolds in the end to get them to fit?

Jai

[edit] In fact, it looks like the purple bits are right and the black inserts would need swapping left to right!

Post Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:00 am

Like this?

Post Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:45 pm

Blame Bob

Post Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:34 pm

E30BeemerLad wrote:Blame Bob

Sounds like a plan

Post Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:48 pm

jaistanley wrote: What was done to those S50 manifolds in the end to get them to fit?

I believe the bottom flange was altered slightly/ turned around so the pipe would clear over the ARB, otherwise, no modifications to the top end/ primaries.

I smacked the bulkhead in about 2cm around the edge of the transmission tunnel and after some persuading, I got them to fit.

Got another question, would S50 throttle bodies & plenum be a waste of time on a M50? I.e are the inlet ports going to be too small on the head to gain any real benefits and would I have an issue with clearance of the plenum and clio servo (would I have to move the servo across?)

Post Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:24 pm

oh f&ck.

I f?&cking hate them bushes.

b30 tb's and plenum cause issues but I think b32 tb;s and plenum is ok with the clio servo?

Post Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:40 pm

I'm going to leave the S50 throttle bodies for now I think as presumably this would also need a load of mapping and faffing about to get running properly and gain any possible benefits?

I'm going to stop spending on "go faster" bits now and just concentrate on getting the turd on the road as the end is not too far away now.

Post Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:48 pm

E30BeemerLad wrote:I'm going to stop spending on "go faster" bits now and just concentrate on getting the turd on the road as the end is not too far away now.

Good choice! It's so easy to let your mind run away with all sorts of ideas! Get it up and running then you can play with it

Post Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:58 pm

Daf318is wrote:
E30BeemerLad wrote:I'm going to stop spending on "go faster" bits now and just concentrate on getting the turd on the road as the end is not too far away now.
Good choice! It's so easy to let your mind run away with all sorts of ideas! Get it up and running then you can play with it

I agree, actually building the thing should be more of a priority than getting go faster parts... says me!!

Post Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:02 pm

Lol Bob, as I was laid under the Golf tonight replacing an outer CV boot the UPS man turned up with some Schrick goodness.

Haven't unwrapped them though but they look substantially well packed

Post Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:07 am

haha like bollocks are you going to get them out!!!

Post Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:13 am

they won't be going in for a while, will put them in after I've got in on the road and given it a bit of a shakedown before I start 7K+ exploits

Post Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:23 pm

Bob_S wrote:oh f&ck.

I f?&cking hate them bushes.

b30 tb's and plenum cause issues but I think b32 tb;s and plenum is ok with the clio servo?

It seems to be a common error, juniorGT has also done the same
here:

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... ft&start=0

Tried to tell him but he has special ones that increase camber not caster lol. No helping some people.

Post Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:41 pm

abelai wrote:
Bob_S wrote:oh f&ck.

I f?&cking hate them bushes.

b30 tb's and plenum cause issues but I think b32 tb;s and plenum is ok with the clio servo?
It seems to be a common error, juniorGT has also done the same
here:

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... ft&start=0

Tried to tell him but he has special ones that increase camber not caster lol. No helping some people.

He has fitted them wrong but as you say, there is no telling some people!

The eccentic bushes move the rear pivot point of the arm further out which moves the outer ball joint forward to increase castor.

They were primarily designed to alow clearance of 16" wheels on M3's.

They are not designed to alter camber and only very slightly do.

Post Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:30 pm

I was daft enough to put the black piece in back to front and had to get it out again! - That was a fun day

Post Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:50 pm

they will be staying as they are for now as I don't have the facilities at home to sort them, although I will be in Norwich next weekend so could use the old boy's press.

Gonna have a day on this tomorrow and hopefully get some more done, it's getting close

Post Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:20 am

Jhonno's said we are in an unofficial race... Not sure I buy it but I'm spending the day on mine tomorrow too.. LOL

Good luck dude!

Jai

Post Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:29 pm

Well we do have an update ladies & gentlemen.

Started off by changing the rear springs & dampers.

The old & the new

The old shizzle

All back on and bolted up

Looking a lot better under here

With it being a touring, changing rear shocks means getting all the rear interior out, so I used this opportunity to dye the cubby boxes and rear seat backs and load cover

Comes with the rear speaker pods, which hopefully will be a bonus

Notice I got the exhaust fixed on too

Then I decided to fit the alpina front end

Unwrapped these beauties for a quick gander

So she's getting ever further.

Need to do myself a new list of what's left

The exhaust system leaves me with a conundrum, if I fit up the front section of the 2 piece system, the front pipes go directy to where the manifold down pipes end. But that means I don't then have the x pipe which came with the S50 manifold. If I put the x pipe on then it routes the exhaust over to the passenger side, so the system won't line up.

I take it the S50 mani needs the x pipe to be effective?

Post Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:33 pm

looking great that now!! be sure not to rush it though as you've done a grand job now and will be a shame to ruin it now!!

gonna be awsome!!!!!!!

Post Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:24 am

Looking good Lee, looks like this will be ready for the summer - especially if you carry on at this rate

Post Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:03 pm

Exhaust should route to pax. side,three piece system(like mine)joins at the rear of your 'X' pipe,like a hottuning/BTB2 does on an M20 donk. Expect you want loud and look at me rather than the descriete look/sound of mine

so why not source up a Scorpion centre/back or similar?Brand new from GSF,my centre/rear incuding fitting kit came in at under £250.
Good work this weekend BTW,keep it up....

Post Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:04 am

when i had the set up on my e30 i had two pipes going straight from the x pipe onto a scorpion back box. the front bit of the system was too long to mount too the x pipe so i didnt bother with it.

the m50 sounded very aggressive

Post Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:17 am

Looking good! You must surely be seeing whopping great rays of light from the other end of the tunnel!

Post Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:43 am

Come on Lee, Pod 2010 is going to come round quick

Post Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:00 am

Nice work lee

I think im putting mine back on the road also.

Post Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:56 am

josh-hocking wrote:be sure not to rush it though as you've done a grand job now and will be a shame to ruin it now!!

This thread was started in February 2008, I don't think that 'rushing it' comes into the equation

Post Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:05 pm

This thread was started in February 2008, I don't think that 'rushing it' comes into the equation

Surely the zone helped blitz on it could be the closest thing to rushing it. On the other hand fi, if it were me at this stage the post would have been started in Feb 06!