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Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:30 am

Well, I'm not going to be drawn into a 'I'm faster than you' debate, it's a bit sad...

Will be at the Ring again in August, and hopefully a couple more times this year, so let things be settled there. Not via some 3rd party who wasn't there. :mrgreen:

16.1 in the Scuttlemobile is very respectable, I want to try the 1/4 mile this year, will be my first time though (excuses already!)
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Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:35 am

Theo325 wrote:Well, I'm not going to be drawn into a 'I'm faster than you' debate, it's a bit sad...

Will be at the Ring again in August, and hopefully a couple more times this year, so let things be settled there. Not via some 3rd party who wasn't there. :mrgreen:

16.1 in the Scuttlemobile is very respectable, I want to try the 1/4 mile this year, will be my first time though (excuses already!)
nothing personal
with you opening statement in this thred you draged yourself into a debate that you really have not got a lot of experience in, some yes al lot no.

as for scuttle mobile, knock it as much as you want dude but it was a well sorted e30. if all you can do is comment on a bit of rust commonly found on most e30's then thats a bit sad imo

oh, what did ring racing say about your IS m30 conversion ?? winkeye
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Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:36 am

as for me not being there, i'll go when i chose to go , i'm not envious at all
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Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:43 am

Chill, not knocking the iS - you're well protective over that innit?? Can't imagine why....
with you opening statement in this thred you draged yourself into a debate that you really have got a lot of experience in
Cheers, wouldn't say I've got that much experience though haha. I would say that owning both cars and having compared them side to side would give me grounds to comment would it not?

Matey at Ring Racing rightly evaluated the car as a turd! Dodgy (broken) gear linkage and horribly bodged exhaust didn't do it any favours.
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Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:50 am

Theo325 wrote:Chill, not knocking the iS - you're well protective over that innit?? Can't imagine why....
with you opening statement in this thred you draged yourself into a debate that you really have NOT got a lot of experience in
Cheers, wouldn't say I've got that much experience though haha. I would say that owning both cars and having compared them side to side would give me grounds to comment would it not?

Matey at Ring Racing rightly evaluated the car as a turd! Dodgy (broken) gear linkage and horribly bodged exhaust didn't do it any favours.
well you seem to make refernce to it a fair amount ?? i've never done that about your cars have i ?

give me ten minutes round it it could fault it if you want ?? winkeye

please excuse the typo error (now corrected), you have some , not a lot of experince . you do have grounds to comment, but dont dismiss my points . i've been involved with e30's for a long time now :thumb:
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Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:59 am

Christ, 10 minutes round the car? The list of faults would be long and painful! It's a slag of a car, I've never made it out to be anything else. It's very much function over form and I think it goes fairly well, better if it was Turbo'd though!

I'm not dismissing all of your points Kos, but my opinion is based on my 1st hand findings, not speculation which is so often the case on here.
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Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:05 am

Theo325 wrote:Christ, 10 minutes round the car? The list of faults would be long and painful! It's a slag of a car, I've never made it out to be anything else. It's very much function over form and I think it goes fairly well, better if it was Turbo'd though!

I'm not dismissing all of your points Kos, but my opinion is based on my 1st hand findings, not speculation which is so often the case on here.
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and my point were based on 1st hand findings as well.

broken linkage is very functional :wink:

an i hope that turbo wasnt a dig aimed at me , either way would you like a turbo manifold for it ?? i have 2, both log manifods. £500 for the genuine alpina B7 one, its very rare dont you know :thumb:
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Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:13 am

and my point were based on 1st hand findings as well.
WTF? Never doubted, or suggested they weren't.

Turbo comment wasn't a dig either. :roll: Quite how you could construe it to be so, I don't know. I will have to decline the offer of the manifold, don't have the money for FI, plus it would make it even more tricky to drive on track I would imagine.
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Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:15 am

Theo325 wrote:
and my point were based on 1st hand findings as well.
WTF? Never doubted, or suggested they weren't.

Turbo comment wasn't a dig either. :roll: Quite how you could construe it to be so, I don't know. I will have to decline the offer of the manifold, don't have the money for FI, plus it would make it even more tricky to drive on track I would imagine.
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Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:43 am

for the record my 3.5 e28, weighing approx 1100kgs, with a gay 3.4 diff, 40ps in the skinny rear tyres, a slipping clutch in 3rd, and a not particularly good launch or 1st > 2nd, got a 15.3 sec 1/4m on my first ever go at one.

A 325 is not as fast, just fit the m30 with all the bits you listed and you will rock.
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Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:39 am

Ive got the BBR chip, but Ive misplaced it somewhere along the way!!!
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Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:58 pm

Sohas anyone fitted the M3 exhaust?.
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Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:11 pm

oze30 wrote:Ive got the BBR chip, but Ive misplaced it somewhere along the way!!!
And the car wouldn't run with the thing in there either :?
Worthless eprom now :roll:
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Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:34 pm

320iSE wrote:I'm impressed so far with the good ol' M30B35. I've fitted mine with a BBR (Brodie Brittain Racing) chip and seen 7,500rpm - on a 20 year old boat anchor!! winkeye
Don't rev an M30 that high for any thing other than very short bursts, if at all !

They don't make the power up there any way, slot another gear in and ride the fat torque curve.
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Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:36 pm

Good advice Andy :thumb:
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Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:53 pm

gooner1 wrote:Sorry to hijack this thread but i read somewhere on here that the M3 exhaust is good for the M30 conversion.
Has anyone here used one and if so what part of the exhaust was used.
I've got a Scorpion M3 exhaust which uses a home X-pipe, Scorpion isn't the best sounding(tone) exhaust and it's a bit loud TBH. The X-pipe helped make it a tad less noisey.

To use an M3 exhaust you need to have made an exhaust flange so you can weld it on to your chopped M30 down pipes, this means you can unbolt the M3 exhaust from the down pipes rather than having to take the down pipes off the manifolds.

Theres a technical drawing i've got for the flange which was kindley drawn up by a zoner so getting one made up at a local engineering firm shouldn't be a problem. You can also buy them ready done from the US but this will work out to be more expensive.

If you arn't bothered about the down pipes/exhaust being de-mountable then it could just be welded together.

The hangers of the M3 exhaust are a bit different but don't take much fafing about to sort out.

A 335 exhaust that i liked the sound of was when Toby Unna had straight through pipes to a E36 328 back box, PM Toby for info.
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Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:56 pm

wow what a bitch fight i missed out on.

i say lets get some cars together at santa pod race straight line and around teh sprint circuit and see some results!

exhaust wise i plan to build a straight through 3inch pipe to a back box which will turn the single 3 inch into 2 2.4inch just to look good.

but the back box is a bit small :(
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