Might give you guys some ideas?

[Demlotcrew]

I like it how they didnt stick the Turbo on the exhaust side.

http://www.da-motorsport.com/projeler/e ... /index.htm

Andrew

[nav786]

that is extreme, propa sleeper

[JOSEMI]

blimey
the engine bay looks rich (and hmmmm its a six cylinders)

[koos]

That gentlemen is BMW PORN!!!!!!!! WOW that is fcuken hot, i need one !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jon_Bmw]

OMG i thought 10 psi was an m20 limit, but 38psi on an "S" series engine-that is fudging unbelievable! Abosolutly awesome thing to do to an engine. BUT i wonder how long it all lasts? But to be honest you have to be made of money to do something like that so it probably doesn't matter.

I need one!

Jon

[Kos]

OMG i thought 10 psi was an m20 limit, but 38psi on an "S" series engine-that is fudging unbelievable! Abosolutly awesome thing to do to an engine. BUT i wonder how long it all lasts? But to be honest you have to be made of money to do something like that so it probably doesn't matter.

I need one!

Jon

their kits are expensive but use a 3.0l s50 (less likely to throw a rod) with a proper set of pistons arb bolts studs all round and a metal head gasket you could run 20 psi day in day out and not too expensive to do, and is easier in an e30 engine bay(mose space for your turbo) belive it or not they give waranty on the engines they build in house. by the way i've had 20 psi thru a m20, no probs.

[Turbo-Brown]

Ooh, they signed the guestbook on the GT6 site a while back when they 'only' had 700bhp!

Hate to be a nay-sayer, but I wouldn't be happy having the exhaust turbine right next to the inlet plenum.

Can't really see them throwing a rod if they're using forged steel ones TBH.

I also can't see an engine with best part of 11:1 compression taking 20psi "all day long"

[koos]

They say in the write up, that the rings have to be changed every 40000 at a cost of $2000. I could live with that, for that amount of hoersepower.

[Kos]

Ooh, they signed the guestbook on the GT6 site a while back when they 'only' had 700bhp!

Hate to be a nay-sayer, but I wouldn't be happy having the exhaust turbine right next to the inlet plenum.

Can't really see them throwing a rod if they're using forged steel ones TBH.

I also can't see an engine with best part of 11:1 compression taking 20psi "all day long"

the rods are the week spot especially on the evos. the full package the gives you includes rods, but my point was thet you can have a similar set up for a lot less money just change pistions and have a c/r of 9:1 and get the mapping done. any more boost will cause probs with the rods.(hece the 3.0l s50 stronger engine) with the mapping you will have the car within a nats cock of detonation due to a high c/r but fuck me will it be responsive. dropping the c/r too low eg 7.5:1 big power cossies, means lots of boost and great power but it comes in with a bang even with a roller bearing turbo its laggy.

[Turbo-Brown]

Sorry, got the wrong end of the stick

Now why is it that some turkish guys can get 1000bhp from an M3 engine when the entire financial might of VW spent forking ages getting their inherantly flawed W16 to do the same?!

[dav325i]

car does look the business but there is some very scarep qoutes in there
it says you can use normal management and all you need is a chip no need for setting up plug and go surely that aint right
if it was all that easy why aint there more of them about.
seems a bit like the turbo kits of ebay for civics etc that claim 500bhp etc on low boost

[stevetigger]

Might just give them a ring, built me one please.....CHEAP or I will cry!!

[GermanGorilla]

Sorry,

1000 bhp on stock ECU,

But I thought it was the 16th of November not April 1st ?

The Gorilla.

[Andy335Touring]

Sorry,

1000 bhp on stock ECU,

But I thought it was the 16th of November not April 1st ?

The Gorilla.

a quote from their web page

" - TSI engine management system

- 32 psi map sensor

- TSI wiring harness for S50B32 "

[GermanGorilla]

Do you know what the TS1 Engine Management System is ?

May I suggest you check it out.

Further, the Garret Turbo of that size poistioned where it is at the Boost figures they are talking about would melt all but steel componets, due to enormus heat sink.

The Pectel, is the only after market ECU that can properly run Dual Vanos, even Motec only operates with the Cams locked.

And as the Pectel costs about 10k all in then how do you do this wonderfull conversion for 22,000 dollars, as I said is not APril the 1st alreay is it ?

Regards,

The Gorilla.

[Turbo-Brown]

The OMEX 700 series can also run Dual VANOS believe it or not!

[GermanGorilla]

Hi,

Are you 100% sure about that ?

I have been told by several reknowned engine tuners that only the Pectel will work and allow remaps and sofware codes to suit different settings.

Would like to see written confirmation please if it exists ?

Regards,

The Gorilla.

[jmc330i]

Motec will run Vanos.

I Emailed Motec ages ago to ask about using one of their ECUs whilst keeping the Vanos (S50B30) and they said it would be fine. I havent got their email reply now, but a quick quote from the Motec website...

Fully Variable Camshaft Timing - MoTeC is proud to be the industry leader in the aftermarket for controlling engines with fully variable camshafts. We have several special modes written to allow full control of up to 4 fully variable camshafts per engine such as the Dual Vanos BMW V8 using our M800/880 series of Engine Management Systems.

[kam-325i]

Dual double vanos (V8 ), bet that hurts when it breaks !

[GermanGorilla]

Hi,

In looking at their Website Pictures again, and using the Evo 3.2 Engine as the starting point, I can not honestly belive that a Glowing Red Garret Turbo sat just above the fuel Rail on an engine that requires at least a 5bar fuel pressure, coupled with the incrediable heat and heat sink, and the under bonnet tempatures that might be generated at full boost, that a fully Plumbed in Fire Extingusher is not an essential part of the package !!.

Sorry, but while it might make good reading, the 22,000 dollars are buying nothing but major headaches, and not much else.

Regards,

The Gorilla.