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Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:49 pm

ah right, makes sense yea, at least with those can relax a little more! thanks again alex..
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Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:55 pm

well its time for an update! I havent had much time or money recently to put into the project as iv been stuck doing silly hours and buying a house!

Anyway got a nice rebate from the tax office, the missus wanted a holiday, i disagreed!
So basically iv ordered everything left that was needed,
Oil cooler
fuel pumps
swirl pot (fuel)
lines
fuel filter
vernier pully and some stock bmw parts too that i needed for the rocker cover and things

So once it all arrives ill be taking some photos

In the meantime im going to xsport racing, www.xsportracing.com up in basingstoke, there heavliy into there bmw e30's and know the m20 off the back of thier hands. So the oil lines to the turbo, from the block and back are all going to be done by them, its just a case of calculating the lengths and fittings.
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Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:43 pm

ARP studs, torque in stages up to 65ft/lb
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Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:24 pm

thanks :D
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Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:08 pm

Hi Phill172

Very Good Post

When are you aiming to fire her up

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Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:02 pm

hey thanks mate, looking well its going down to ant to get the megasquirt fitted and a basemap put on in febuary. So im hoping it will be running then, and then all i have to is do everything for the mot. then hoping to get it fully mapped from there!

thanks!
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Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:25 pm

spent most of this afternoon sorted the postion of the intercooler, much happier with where it is sat now! although its not tucked right up to the radiator at least it will sit inline/behind the front bumper!

anyway, here we are, what do you think

some photos didnt work to well as theres so much smoke in the garage from the anglegrinder!

thoughts???

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Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:42 pm

Looking brilliant!!!

Love the list down the side lol!

Those coolers are certainly popular no doubt I'll end up getting one. Can you share with me where you got it from? :)

Whats your plan for the suspension and brakes side of things?
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Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:50 pm

Here you go rix!

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/MaximumPowered ... idZ2QQtZkm

The ones me, phil and fozzy have are all the same, me and fozzy got ours from the above link and are the "large" model guess phil got his from the same place :D
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Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:21 pm

Chars Matt.

Just put an offer in on one from Germany see how it goes.
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Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:26 am

yep mines a good ol egay ic....aswell as some other bay treats too winkeye

picked mine up off a guy who tunes skyline for a pint more then £50. when you can buy them new from the price they are there and get justify why people will spend fortunes on blitz/bla bla ones

suspension side........welll....haha
the car came with kyb shocks all round but once the thing is up on the road and iv got to know the handleing more and know what time of ride i want to go for i will decide but more or less coilovers at somepoint and defiently uprated ARB's as when i did drive the arse was more saggy then a 90 year corner hussie

brakes im still looking, theres so many different options out there, voager 300mm discs, g60 280mm discs, tt discs list goes on, and skyline calipers, rx7 calipers, 406/fiat coupe brembos, so basically what ever is cheap for sale im going to try and see what works. Just at the moment its all r&d till i get the engine sorted and running

hope it helps rix
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Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:43 pm

Regarding ARP head bolts measure each one accurately with a vernier or multimeter measuring device the total length and gap between the threads over multiple points along the bolt; reason being if for whatever reason you need to remove the head in future if still within tolerance you can reuse them safely. 10mins doing this could save you cost of another set in the future!!

Screw them in by hand first with plenty of arp lube until they bottom out, you find some will not be exactly same level which case use a hex/allen key to help turn them in until all level (by hand only). If some feel loose in the hole not a good sign but ways around that.

Torque them up in stages try leave as much time between stages as possible pref over night each time, take your time!

hope that helps

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Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:41 pm

Thanks very much for that! really helps, so much info on everyones turbo conversion really need to get alot of it stickyed!
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Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:17 am

Interested to see what the front end looks like once it's all built up hows it going? :D
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Its all been pretty slow at the moment, as my second job is in a pub and over christmas its been manic so i havent really had a day where iv been able to do some work....

However i ordered loads of stuff so i now have all the oil system/coolers and fuel system to go in which will be a good days work.....

managed to swap a few things for a brandnew Golf R32 coil pack.... and waiting for more bits from Bmw and were looking like its on course for Ant in febuary.

Iv got a p&p megasquirt coming from the states, which in turn will save me money!
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Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:31 pm

the intercoolers from that link.... they are very cheap...whats the quality like? im after a larger cooler but not as large as yours but im not really wanting to pay £400 for an rs500 cooler. :cool:
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Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:14 pm

Jon ( 800bhp or maximum powered ) is a top bloke, he'll look after you fuzzy :cool:

Not heard of a bad IC as yet, if it aint right he'll sort it, been buying from jon for years.

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does he do custom sizes?
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Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:20 pm

fuzzy wrote:does he do custom sizes?


Never asked!

There's plenty to choose from, get one of the sqaure ones, would fit lovely in front of the rad :D
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thats what i was looking at, to fit in the space infront of the rad and between the headlights but i do have plenty space between the rad and engine though so i could move the rad back and fit the mid size 660 x 300 in front. ill definately be calling him as they do look good and the price is very good compared to the usual cosworth scene coolers :cool:
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Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:34 pm

I paid even less for mine only £88 posted from ebay brand new.

Get it up and running Phil so I can come see it :D
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Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:26 pm

Sorry its abit off topic phil

i spoke to some one abit back who was local to me and would nock a copy of a volvo one which fits with no mods for £440 all in ally which i though was ok but then the ebay cheap ness becond and the fact that i didnt mind modding the front of my car, have you seen these.

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very simular to the above i think!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Sierra-RS500 ... otohosting
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not a bad price to have one liked that fabbed up as a one off!

Iv spent all day fitting the fuel system in (ill get pictures up asap). Although i shafted myself with putting the Oil Cooler behind the drivers front light as i have no where for my screamer pipe to go. So now the oil cooler needs repoistioning again!

Just waiting for a few bits and bobs from bmw to turn up now, which is taking forfuckingever!

Anyhow, what do you guys make of these......
http://www.driftworks.com/catalog/produ ... uring.html

£400 od quid isnt bad for a set of coilovers, mean yes they wont be as good as say KW's etc, but at half the price its worth thinking about......

Looking at these just as mine is as saggy as an 80 year old....iv got Eibach arbs on the way, aswell as doing the usual bushes, just debating on these coilovers.....

anyhow on more news, supplier for boost pipes....anyone got any goodies???
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Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:33 pm

You can gave my old radiator if you like? Although it doesn't look tip top it works fine just needs a clean in and out?

You getting the adjustable ARB's? I am looking at getting them let me know how you get on with em. Good luck with the bushes they a pain in the arse!

Let me know whether you want that resirc valve or any pipes :wink:
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Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:42 pm

sweet, is it the one with the expansion tank on the side???

Yep ill let you know how they go, yea i have set a whole day aside to sort the bushes out......not looking forward to it!

basically will be in need of 3" pipework

cheers mate!
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Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:58 pm

so went into the garage to work on the car today, got as far as looking at the engine, and just thought, f**k iv got a long way to go.

I dont weather its just demoralising the fact that im waiting for bits and cant really do much until i get them :eek:

Thats a question, anyone got a diagram of how the water system lines are?

Its annoying, i cant do any of the front pulleys etc at the moment, as funny enough, there are no timing marks on the head or vernier pulley!

Thats another question, the cambelt tensioner how does it come off? Is it litterely brute force and yank the basted??

anyhow iv got to that stage were i want to scream out for help!!!

Rant over......
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Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:13 pm

I got to the same stage with my last project. Hence the 'wanted' add in my sig.

Just stopped looked at it an though i just want it done and ready to drive. Weather was picking up to which was even worse as all the nice cars started to come out.

Its a real effort to do the job properly to. But worth putting the effort in or youll for ever have it in the bk of your head that you could have done it better!

Keep it up, be worth it in the end.
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Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:07 pm

Stick with it Phill

I've been there before, left it for a few months,then found some motivation to get further on with it

I'm at that stage just now. It may be down to not being able to get the machining done due to work commitments or just because i haven't got all the parts needed yet, as I got side tracked for a while
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Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:23 pm

I know what you mean Phil, i just fabbed the engine mounts for the saab turbo lump today and bolting the engine in place feels so good.

Every time i lose motivation and think of selling the bits separately i just think

a) i will have lost the battle and
b) if somebody else bought it as a project the thought of them driving it is painful.

battle on Phil it will be worth it
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Make yourself a list dude, you can get straight in your mind what needs to be done, and you can cross things off as you go which is quite satisfying. I've still got over 45 things left on my list, but having a cuppa and a stare at it usually inspires me to get on with things :)

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50 on my list :(
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Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:35 am

I only have one thing on my list.

Finish it.
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Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:15 am

Thanks for all the comments guys, well iv got the heater on a timer aswell so should be nice an toastie in there tonight, ill give it another bash tonight and ill atleast take some photos too as its been a while

Cheers guys!
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Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:26 am

Just sit in it for 1 minute and make turbo noises pretending to eat an e36 m3 off the lights, that will give you plenty of motivation!
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Building is the easy part! Fixing after it's broken is the hardest part, I have a spare tank of fuel and a match in the garage for when I've had enough! :cool:

List is good, otherwise I kept watching the TICCO vid for inspiration, I wanted that car/sound/performance so much I managed to get there eventually!

Just think, I've done most of it twice too, two Ms's, two IC's, two exhausts, two WB's etc etc

Once you feel that bitch come on boost you'll kick yourself for ever contemplating 'not' finishing it :cool:
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