Wiring loom help please 318i to M30

Discuss general engine, turbo and supercharger conversions in this section

Moderator: martauto

gareth
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 11009
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: hastings, east sussex

Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:50 pm

i can't remember exactly what connected where now to be honest! the abs worked fine with the light on for a few months before it finally died. i assume the bulb being removed by a previous owner meant it had been on for a few years and always operated fine!
Sole founder of Fe2O3-12V it's a lifestyle
Image
LSD rebuilding / modification services provided, PM for details
User avatar
Brianmoooore
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 49358
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:00 pm

E30 ABS is totally self contained, and has no connection with the engine whatsoever, other than it has an input from the blue alternator wire to detect engine running, and takes a feed from the ECU side of the DME relay (red/yellow wire) to detect ignition on.
SPADGE
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 7373
Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:00 pm
Location: Milton Keynes, Bucks

Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:06 pm

Brianmoooore wrote:E30 ABS is totally self contained, and has no connection with the engine whatsoever, other than it has an input from the blue alternator wire to detect engine running, and takes a feed from the ECU side of the DME relay (red/yellow wire) to detect ignition on.
Does it still get this feed properly using an M30 loom Brian?
As long as i know its not a problem with the conversion i'm sure i can sort it!
DRIFTBOY
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 3131
Joined: Mon May 22, 2006 11:00 pm
Location: Kent

Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:19 pm

SPADGE wrote: Does it still get this feed properly using an M30 loom Brian?
As long as i know its not a problem with the conversion i'm sure i can sort it!
I had no trouble with my abs / M30 engine loom at all.
The abs works and the light goes out, didn't change / modify anything to do with it.
Jeremy Clarkson wrote:...but it drives the front wheels. Theee wrooong wheels!
da4x4turbo wrote:I raced a vivaro on the motorway once in a 318is.... and lost!!!
SPADGE
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 7373
Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:00 pm
Location: Milton Keynes, Bucks

Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:26 pm

DRIFTBOY wrote:
SPADGE wrote: Does it still get this feed properly using an M30 loom Brian?
As long as i know its not a problem with the conversion i'm sure i can sort it!
I had no trouble with my abs / M30 engine loom at all.
The abs works and the light goes out, didn't change / modify anything to do with it.
Cool mate thats what i wanted to hear :D
I'll look elsewhere for that problem then 8)
User avatar
Brianmoooore
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 49358
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:31 pm

The red/yellow is the one on pin 20 of the 318 C101.
Shows as red/white on my M30 wiring diagram. (Same red/white as the one on the main ECU relay).
E30drifto
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 152
Joined: Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:00 pm

Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:10 pm

Brianmoooore wrote:Right - first a list of the E30 plug colours and functions:
1/ blue, from alternator small terminal to ignition light.
2/ green/yellow, oil level sensor (NC on 318 loom)
3/ NC
4/ brown/purple, water temp to cluster
5/ brown/green, oil pressure to cluster
6/ green/white, fused ignition, feed to lambda sensor heater and Rx pin of engine ECU only.
7/ green, ignition 12V+ from ignition switch
8/ white/black, fuel rate from ECU to cluster
9/ black, engine speed (revs) from ECU to cluster
10/ blue, oil level sensor (NC on 318 loom)
11/ white/green, service light reset from diag.socket to cluster
12/ grey, engine ECU fault light. Not normally fitted on UK cars
13/ green/purple, fuel pump, from ECU to pump relay
14/ black/white, speed signal from cluster to ECU
15/ black/green, from unloader relays to starter motor
16/ white/black, unknown function. Usually fitted, but goes to a NC in the body socket
17/ NC
18/ black/yellow, starter, from start position of ignition switch to starter
19/ NC
20/ red/yellow, ABS feed. This is 12V+ to the ABS unit from the main ECU relay

The E30 body socket may have some different colours for the same pins:
2/ blue/black
5/ black/brown
6/ green/yellow
8/ yellow/white
10/ purple/green
11/ white/blue
12/ green/white or brown/black (not usually present on UK cars).
13/ purple/red
14/ blue/yellow


I've got three different wiring diagrams for the engine control of 535i s around '87- '88, but I can't really relate any of these to your mystery pins, 8,12,15,16 and 20.

There was a major change between '88 and 89'. The '88 ECU has 35 pins. The '89 has 65. How many does yours have?


Note that the only wires you have to connect to make the engine run are (on the E30 C101):

7, (ignition), 13, (fuel pump), and 18, (starter)

post revival!!
Have you got access to a wiring diagram or ecu/engine plug pin out for a 1992 E34 M30? :D
User avatar
Brianmoooore
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 49358
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:26 pm

As I've just posted in another thread, the wiring should be the same.
teatime39
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 301
Joined: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: north london

Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:21 pm

Hi guys , Ihave a 1990 320i convertible , I've found some lights behind the dash and have no idea what they are for , 1, a brown and a green and brown stays on after ignition,2 , two seperate lights both brown with a grey and red, also my service light do not work . in the front of the dash there is a little white plug part no 1 381 635 does anyone know what this is for , any help would be much appreciated.
User avatar
Brianmoooore
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 49358
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:44 pm

In reverse order: The white plug is the coding plug for the instrument cluster, and its main purpose is to tell the tacho. whether your car is a 4 cylinder or a 6.
Service lights could be as simple as the SI board needing new batteries, up to the system having been sabotaged to put the red warning lights out.
The two seperate lights with the grey/reds sound like the illumination for the headlamp beam adjuster switch, which is fitted into the panel above the driver's legs.
My first thoughts on the light with the green/brown was an ABS warning light that has been hidden, as an 'aid' to selling the car, but the colours are both wrong! Can't think what this one can be, at the moment!
P.S: It's preferable for you to start a thread of your own, rather than tack it on to an existing thread.
teatime39
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 301
Joined: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: north london

Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:51 pm

thanks , how do i start a thread , sorry i only joined yesterday
User avatar
Brianmoooore
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 49358
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:05 pm

Just click on "new topic" at the top of the page, but, for your query, in the "tech help" forum.
Post Reply