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Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:26 am

Kedge wrote:That all looks fine and once you grind the welds back, seal and paint no one will ever know. The only one I'm a little unsure about is this;
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Looks like there is still some rust that's not been chopped out. :?

As for the bungs, I'd just keep them OEM. No point messing about welding them in. My car is nearly 28 years old and still has the original bungs and they are fine, anyone who's spunking thousands on these turds isn't going to be using them as daily runners through the winter and that is was has caused these issues, lots of salt, water and neglection. So long as everything is prep'd properly, sealed and painted properly they will be fine. If you are set on welding, just do it the same way that the small bung has been done.

For finishing the floor I'm going to be using zinc primer, fresh seam sealer, a base coat and then heavily lacquer it all. I've used Hammerite Smoothrite in the past and wouldn't let it near the E30, really don't like the stuff, POR15 Chassis Paint is a far more superior product if you wanted to use something along those lines.

I'm up for coming over but the 26/27th is a weekend too early for me as I'm working that Sunday and will no doubt be hungover on the Saturday.
I was going to ask him about this one Dave, Had a good look at it on Sat. It doesn't look rotten but is quite pitted. I've already got some black rattle cans in the garage, I will be painting and then laquering the floor but not bothered about looking OEM, I don't intend on taking the carpets up again during my ownership!

I can only do the 26th/27th this month bud, off to Latvia the following weekend on the sauce. I'll be in the garage hopefully every Sunday and every other Saturday now though so feel free to pop over any other time :D
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:34 pm

If you can get in at it and grind away the worst of it then fertan, prime, seal, paint then waxoyl it should be ok. No need to go to the efforts of making it look OEM under the carpet, no one will see and it'll be a more durable finish anyway.

I'll try & get down sometime in Feb, need to do a bit of something with my cars first though lol
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:09 pm

Kedge wrote:If you can get in at it and grind away the worst of it then fertan, prime, seal, paint then waxoyl it should be ok. No need to go to the efforts of making it look OEM under the carpet, no one will see and it'll be a more durable finish anyway.

I'll try & get down sometime in Feb, need to do a bit of something with my cars first though lol
I'v got some dremel type stone grinder drill bits coming tomorrow - hopefully they'll clear it up!

If you come in Feb that'd be perfect, Interior will be finished and I'll prob take you up on your offer of a compressor loan to get underneath nicely sealed :D
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:15 pm

Made another hole tonight... :cry:

Phil came over and we went over the pieces, chopped off the jacking pads and he cracked on with the osf corner, I started checking out the little scabby patch in the rear of the boot.

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Took out the vapour tank, looks good behind it but the other side of the scab in the boot now looks like this!
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Phil didn't get the front floor welded up tonight but did get the piece almost there so should go straight in on Weds.
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:24 pm

Meatballs82 wrote:Made another hole tonight... :cry:







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This is what I'm dreading on my IS if I ever get started on it. I'm coming near to the end of a evening welding course so shall hopefully get to blow some holes in her soon...:o

Good to see more progression Matt..
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:37 pm

Looks like its going well Matt,getting stuck in ey :D
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:43 pm

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Meatballs82 wrote:Made another hole tonight... :cry:

This is what I'm dreading on my IS if I ever get started on it. I'm coming near to the end of a evening welding course so shall hopefully get to blow some holes in her soon...:o

Good to see more progression Matt..
the amount of "rust free" e30s on here owners say, will all have things like this lurking under the sealant if hunted out, not many of those will have who throw "bruv it up" cash at it on bling wheels etc, doing a good job meatballs, shel be a goodun
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:55 pm

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Meatballs82 wrote:Made another hole tonight... :cry:

This is what I'm dreading on my IS if I ever get started on it. I'm coming near to the end of a evening welding course so shall hopefully get to blow some holes in her soon...:o

Good to see more progression Matt..
the amount of "rust free" e30s on here owners say, will all have things like this lurking under the sealant if hunted out, not many of those will have who throw "bruv it up" cash at it on bling wheels etc, doing a good job meatballs, shel be a goodun
Oh I know mine has rot, its sitting in my sisters garage, with no carperts in all its brown spotted glory, I've got the same problem it the boot as Meatballs, just seems like a tricky bit to tackle..
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:34 pm

Knew that bit in the boot was going to lead to dramas :(

I'm getting those bit from Jim tomorrow, want us to check his turd for potential repair sections?
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:36 pm

Oh and get it back to bare metal around the bottle brackets, you've seen how mint mine looked but it was still just starting to go once it was back to bare metall.
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:15 am

just been reading through all this it's taken me over a hour, i look forward to seeing any progress!

looking really good mate, thats dedication!
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:01 am

That is one rusty Sport you have there Matt :twisted: When your finished, do you think you can register it as a new car as not much of it is going to be what left the factory? :D

Kedge - At the new place so that red turd isnt here :cry: Its at the old place, but I do have the low millege Lach 4 door that might be promising for this part.
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:39 am

Jim320i wrote:That is one rusty Sport you have there Matt :twisted: When your finished, do you think you can register it as a new car as not much of it is going to be what left the factory? :D

Kedge - At the new place so that red turd isnt here :cry: Its at the old place, but I do have the low millege Lach 4 door that might be promising for this part.
Get chopping then dude!!! winkeye

Phil talked about plating it up but I want it chopped and changed, how hard is it going to be to remove those pipes? I can only access the O/S of my car at the minute, where do they run to?
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:41 am

Kedge wrote:Knew that bit in the boot was going to lead to dramas :(
Me too, but at least its found and will be sorted, looks like a tricky job though 8O
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:42 am

They both run up to that plastic tank that sits up to the left mate and both run to the fuel tank.

Make a note of which ones they are then go to the fuel tank cover behind the driver seat and undo them both from that end, you should be able to pull them out from the other side then.

I'll have a look at the breaker shortly and let you knw how I get on. Bit cold out today is all
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:42 am

blackE30indy wrote:Looks like its going well Matt,getting stuck in ey :D
Despite discovering all the rot I'm still enjoying myself somehow!

You'll have to pop over sometime and take me out in yours for a blast winkeye
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:31 am

Jim320i wrote: I'll have a look at the breaker shortly and let you knw how I get on. Bit cold out today is all
Get some of that tasty Yorkshire tea brewing mate.

We still chopping the scuttle out of your Sport for Matt for the finishing touch to his chop shop rep? :teehee:
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:43 pm

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Meatballs82 wrote:Made another hole tonight... :cry:







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This is what I'm dreading on my IS if I ever get started on it. I'm coming near to the end of a evening welding course so shall hopefully get to blow some holes in her soon...:o

Good to see more progression Matt..
Get this chopped out Matt! The guy can weld you just need to convince/pay him to fabricate up fillet pieces.

Its a bodge IMO to plate over rust. You are simple preventing the inevitable.

Do not weld your floor bungs in either. I may be a OEM homo but they are just fitted in with seam sealer. Why Weld?

You could always fab up the pieces yourself and get your man to weld them in.

I had the same rust spot on jbu and managed to put a new piece in.

Do it right first time or it will bite you in the arris.
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:54 pm

^aymen to that^. And get some pics of the process if you can. I'd be interested to see it done :D
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:24 pm

scott180gtb wrote: Get this chopped out Matt! The guy can weld you just need to convince/pay him to fabricate up fillet pieces.

Its a bodge IMO to plate over rust. You are simple preventing the inevitable.

Do not weld your floor bungs in either. I may be a OEM homo but they are just fitted in with seam sealer. Why Weld?

You could always fab up the pieces yourself and get your man to weld in the pieces.

I had the same rust spot on jbu and managed to put a new piece in.

Do it right first time or it will bite you in the arris.

I know naff all about welding, thats why I assumed the bungs could be welded, I just want to make sure its properly watertight when its done!

I thought a plate over the pipe seemed a bodge as I've been looking at your thread and was impressed with the outcome on the same bit, I'm going to email him a screenshot of it now and see what he says, I've got an all night garage pass tonight :D so will see what I can get done.
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:13 pm

Sorted, sent him the screenshots from Beardymatt & Scotts thread and he reckons he can sort it that way. Happy days :D
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:59 am

Nipped down the garage lastnight to find I have one less hole in the floor!
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I cleaned up the welds
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and covered it with Polsta's (second) favourite fluid winkeye

will go down tonight to make sure its gone off, key it up with some scotchbrite and get it primed ready for sealing tomorrow.
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:47 am

Mate, get the whole floor back to bare metal first, I'm going to try finishing doing that to mine this afternoon. There WILL be rust under the seam sealer on the front seam.
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:59 am

Kedge wrote:Mate, get the whole floor back to bare metal first, I'm going to try finishing doing that to mine this afternoon. There WILL be rust under the seam sealer on the front seam.
I will be mate, got tomorrow off work :D so will be having a late one tonight

Did you receive that money by the way?
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Meatballs82 wrote: I cleaned up the welds
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and covered it with Polsta's (second) favourite fluid winkeye
as kedge says, get the whole floor back, see the surface rust by the bung there undeer where the deadening was, there will more than likley be more than that lurking to be found, get the lot taken back
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After my afternoon curled up in the footwells I'd say on the drivers side you need to be stripping the paint right up to the pedalbox. I found surface rust right up the bulkhead even though the paint looked fine as you rubbed it back the brown kept appearing on that ridge between the brake and clutch pedal.
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on mine after stripping it all, the "join strip" or whatever its called, that goes right across the front of the floor pan, covering the join that joins the bottom section to the bulkhead?/section that curves up , just under that join there were a couple of bits

anyway - took the deadening up today and some bits, checked my car out, the floor is done, all the bulkhead , and around the gromet is all done, new pedal mount section has been fabricated in, mine was a bit flakey/rusty around the mount, so got a mint one from a breaker cut out and thats all been done

spoke to him about how hes doing the floor - re seam sealed, all primerd, hes flicking a layer of paint over it, then putting the new deadening in, then a couple of coats of paint then laqueur it all, is what hes doing, said it should be like new
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Wire wheel dont tell no lies winkeye

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Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:31 pm

Those things are evil, one of my customers lost a mechanic for 11 months after he got hit in the eyball! Idiot wasn't wearing goggles! Not plucked up the courage to use mine yet!
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All the weldings finished now, all turned around in a week which is sooner than I thought! 8)

Phil had finished the drivers side by the time I got to the garage lastnight, I'd already primed everywhere underneath during the day so we got the sealer out. Used a whole £20 tin of 3M seam sealer just on the driver side :eek: didn't take any pics of this stage, hands were plastered and we wanted to get as much done as possible but it looks to be sealed well.

We got the car turned around last night and almost had the nsf floor finished, started again at 9 today to finish it off.

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Action halted for today soon after Phil left, my £16 Toolstation angle grinder gave up the ghost on the last bit of weld to grind, it has taken a battering in its short life! gonna take it back and invest in one a bit better on Monday I think!

Ran the battery power cable back in to the engine bay, reconnected the battery and started her for the first time in 2 months, fired back to life on the first turn! Happy days. 8)

Next job is prime and seal the rest of the welds, finish stripping the floor inside and get it all painted up nice. Hoping to get that done through the week so I can get sound system wiring in and then the start dash and interior next weekend.
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Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:10 pm

Nice work Matt - jealous of your garage space :mrgreen:
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Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:21 pm

capri_rob wrote:Nice work Matt - jealous of your garage space :mrgreen:
Its not mine, Its my parents. I have a garage at my house but its tiny and has no power. Somehow talked dad into letting me borrow his for the winter!
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Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:05 pm

:cool: Looks bloody good dude.


This has come out very nice too :cool:

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How much has all the welding cost now then? And do this guy travel far? winkeye No doubt my future chromie will be a rusty sh1tter so will need a welder
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Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:10 pm

Nice progression Matt.. You really are keeping it to your schedule.

Is that the leading edge of you front inner arch? There's usually two tabs with holes in to hold the arch liner there isn't there? I only ask as I have this job to do soon.

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Like the camper style pop up roof option :D

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Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:28 pm

Jim320i wrote::cool: Looks bloody good dude.


This has come out very nice too :cool:

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How much has all the welding cost now then? And do this guy travel far? winkeye No doubt my future chromie will be a rusty sh1tter so will need a welder
It looked just as good on the other side but I haven't get any pics of it yet, its all sealed up now.

All in all the welding has cost £220
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