Hartge H27 piccies while the sun is out !!!

[e30topless]

Looks wrong in 1989 too - which is why BMW never offered it.

SO!

What is the interior plan for the Hartge?

it should be crossing the atlantic in the next week

NO WAY?!

yep took some finding but least of my worries, the painter has broke his foot in 2 places

[The_Diddler]

Looks wrong in 1989 too - which is why BMW never offered it.

SO!

What is the interior plan for the Hartge?

it should be crossing the atlantic in the next week

Couldnt resist then

[e30topless]

wow, nearly a full page of nothing to do with the op

Chris are we still up for going down to surrey/kent to collect the wheels for this biatch on sunday ?

yes steve, what time we setting off

5 hours drive so it had better be early !! will call you

[Alex]

Looks wrong in 1989 too - which is why BMW never offered it.

SO!

What is the interior plan for the Hartge?

it should be crossing the atlantic in the next week

It MUST be red oxblood leather then

[On_a_Roll]

yep took some finding but least of my worries, the painter has broke his foot in 2 places

What!? Don't need feet to paint man, get back in that booth.

[he30]

it should be crossing the atlantic in the next week

NO WAY?!

yep took some finding but least of my worries, the painter has broke his foot in 2 places

Give martin a try at mp autos, the guy whoose number i gave you! his work is spot on, you wouldn't be dissapointed. Not the cheapest, but you get what you pay for

[e30topless]

I picked up the wheels for this turd at the weekend 536 mile round trip !

(many thanks to Theo for hanging onto them for a month or 3 )

couldn't resist fitting them to see how it looked !!
very very pleased another step nearer to getting this thing done !!

[Simon]

Looking good. Well done for going for the 16" wheels, best wheel out there.

[Alex]

awsome

[Theo]

Nice meeting you the other day Steve, whens the car going in for paint then?

[gazm3]

I picked up the wheels for this turd at the weekend 536 mile round trip !

(many thanks to Theo for hanging onto them for a month or 3 )

couldn't resist fitting them to see how it looked !!
very very pleased another step nearer to getting this thing done !!

I would have had them, for my cab.

[e30topless]

Looking good. Well done for going for the 16" wheels, best wheel out there.

absolutely ! I really like them

Nice meeting you the other day Steve, whens the car going in for paint then?

hopefully soon, I got a local chap coming around to take a look over the weekend. I have seen his work and it's superb

I can't wait to get bits bolted back on

[Pedro_Marques]

Oh dear God, this project promises I´m a hartge big fan, and seeing a car like this, is wonderful

[e30topless]

Oh dear God, this project promises I´m a hartge big fan, and seeing a car like this, is wonderful

thanks, nice sig picture

this arrived from Germany today, I love the origional BMW speakers I Haven't had these before I hope they sound well





But...I am now wondering about a full Black interior


it's going for paint on monday it will be gone until the 27th

can't wait to see the finished result, the chap who is painting it will be taking photo's of his progress

[Alex]

some rare tasty morsels going into this

[sweep]

Excellent steve (parcelshelf)

[Ollie_bwoii]

If you go black! First refusal or second etc... wherever I would be in the line of the oxblood!

OH and also nice project! Looking awesome!

[e30topless]

If you go black! First refusal or second etc... wherever I would be in the line of the oxblood!

OH and also nice project! Looking awesome!

cardinal red is lovely I have the carpet, the seats are on their way somewhere, just need to locate the doorcards.

I just can't help thinking they might look shite with sterling silver ?

[Ollie_bwoii]

Well just try it, and if you don't like it I will (money depending) give you what you paid for them!

Personally I tihnk they will look in your hartge re-shell!

[AC_S]

Personally I tihnk they will look in your hartge re-shell!

+1

Silver M3 in my area with cardinal leather...looks fab...go for it.

Great thread/project

[djk]

If you go black! First refusal or second etc... wherever I would be in the line of the oxblood!

OH and also nice project! Looking awesome!

cardinal red is lovely I have the carpet, the seats are on their way somewhere, just need to locate the doorcards.

I just can't help thinking they might look shite with sterling silver ?

Red leather with silver is the best combination IMO! Do it, it will make a very special car even better!

[beemerbird]

this arrived from Germany today, I love the origional BMW speakers I Haven't had these before I hope they sound well

If they don't sound good, I'm sure you could easily replace the drivers,

[Alex]

stick a set of comps or 5x7s under it

[he30]

If you go black! First refusal or second etc... wherever I would be in the line of the oxblood!

OH and also nice project! Looking awesome!

cardinal red is lovely I have the carpet, the seats are on their way somewhere, just need to locate the doorcards.

I just can't help thinking they might look shite with sterling silver ?

Red leather with silver is the best combination IMO! Do it, it will make a very special car even better!

i'll second that brother

[e30topless]

I am working on it Howard, but red bits are bloody hard to find !

looks like the deal with some cardinal leather from the states has fallen through so it will Have a black interior until I find some more

the good news is the old turd is going to paint tomorow, this will be a milestone for me, lots of lovely new sterling silver paint going on

my wallet will be 2k lighter but will be worth it I hope

I completely trust the guy that's doing the job, his work is spot on but is there anything I should look out for ?

(I have already been round the car with a Magnifying glass marking out any imperfections )


With the car gone for 2-3 weeks I have the room in the Garage to start the engine re-build

[HartgeH27]

Looking good. Well done for going for the 16" wheels, best wheel out there.

[e30topless]

well now it has gone for paint I can start on the oily bits

the engine in the origional green car was past it's sell by date with marks on the head and pistons and big scores down the bores

so a good known m20 b 2.5 was bought from a good freind (sweep) with a view to fitting a TD or ETA crank

but then.... I heard about a H27 that was breaking down near stafford jumped in the van and 200 miles later this was purchased ...

A genuine H27 lump




there was no way of knowing for definate if it was a 2.7/stroker the car was un-drivable and we couldn't fire it up after vandal damage on the wiring so i took the chance and handed over the readies,

how glad I am that i did

the stroke is about 10mm longer than my B2.5

and it had this lurking in what seems to be a new head ?

an almost new Shrick cam





now should I go to Gaydon or stay home in the morning and whip the sump off ?

[StuBeeDoo]

Glad it worked out for you Steve.

[bodger]

steve get those hex head bolts out , ps go to gaydon, dont think i will make it im in bother with the mrs

[e30topless]

Glad it worked out for you Steve.

thanks Stu was good meeting you today

steve get those hex head bolts out , ps go to gaydon, dont think i will make it im in bother with the mrs

Chris the hex bolts are in the bin ... Did i get you in trouble again ?

you better stay in the good books fella what with the wedding next week

I promise not to pick you up and take you back covered in oil 6 hours later for a few weeks

cheers for the help today, mucho appreciate it

[Simon13]

you can whip the engine into bits any day!

I wonder if the head is reworked chambers,ports etc. Surely if there is a schrick in there its been rebuilt at some point? not that thats a problem

Pull it to bits so we can see pistons! i reckon they'll be identical to alpina 2.7 slugs bar compression ratio differences

Is there a part number on the cam? hartge used a 270 ish cam? might be a 284/272 but who knows!

[e30topless]

you can whip the engine into bits any day!

I wonder if the head is reworked chambers,ports etc. Surely if there is a schrick in there its been rebuilt at some point? not that thats a problem

Pull it to bits so we can see pistons! i reckon they'll be identical to alpina 2.7 slugs bar compression ratio differences

Is there a part number on the cam? hartge used a 270 ish cam? might be a 284/272 but who knows!

the head is not a BMW item there are no markings on it ?

the inlet ports are massive and shaped differently to any i have seen (they look steeper ? ) valves are slightly bigger

it's a strange one but it is like brand new and it will be used on this build it's in lovely condition,
the cam also has markings showing 774 ? that must be a shrick thing ..

Si ..see you at Gaydon

[Simon13]

i've got a schrick catalogue here somewhere with all their part numbers, i'll have to look!

See you in the morn

[e30topless]

sump off pistons out
can anyone shed any light on these ?
do they look the same as standard 325i ?



TD crank ? I need to do some research




I also got the front legs from the H27 just because they were there, and the calipers were nice and clean

and was very suprised to see these inside



oh...and these markings on the springs

[SUMPCRACKER]

That is a serious collection of nice bits!!

Is it possible that the cam says 274 and not 774?

Suprised Hartge stamp bilstein shocks!!

Also, no they dont look like 25i pistons at all, the indent pocket is smaller and the pin is closer to the edge. Nice.