m_jermyns build *motor in*

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Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:57 am

I would - how often do you get to do this level of strip and build?
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Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:00 pm

First time mate... I just figure if I am going to do it, I will do it right.. I am told that the rusty waterway will not cause a problem whatsover but I know its there and that bothers me.. I am a bit anal
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Thu May 06, 2010 10:38 am

I sent the block away about a week ago to get one cylinder sleeved due to some rust in the bore, while it was there I had the clock honed and decked... They took 7 thou of the top of the block to clean it up..

Masked up and painted. Decided on flat red paint for the block with silver everything else... Saw it somewhere else and thought it looked real nice.
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Good shot of the honing
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Engine back
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Engine front
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Unmasked
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Shiny and new looking
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Bolting on some bits and bobs
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More to come soon

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Thu May 06, 2010 11:05 am

Looks good Mike and will definately go harder in RED.
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Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:11 am

Today was a exciting day. Something I have been looking forward too, as I started to assemble the bottom end and watch all the hard work come together.

The Brand new bearings have been put into the block, interestingly the ones that go on the block where a perfect fit but the ones that went on the caps had a extra key way slot on them, this meant they did not fit the caps. Lucky we where able to file them off giving a perfect fit.
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Crank shaft laid in block
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Piston rings on pistons
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Sliding pistons into the bore
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All pistons and bearing in, all torqued up with engine eying off its new home
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New vs old oil pump
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Oil pump in place
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New Vs old oil pressure switch (looks different must check)
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Spotless oil free sump (cant have any traces of old oil in here I want the oil to be like honey every change)
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Sump placed in position to protect the inside of the motor from dust. Looks a bit dirty on the bottom and I dont like the scratches... Cant have that. Fix it on Monday
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Monday I have to place the front and back engine plates on, aswell as button up the sump.

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Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:31 am

Nice, Mike ~ as Ratch said: get it down to this level and you might as well do everything spot on. Looking forward to the driving impressions when it is up and running.
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Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:36 am

Thanks Ade,

Had a few issues with the piston rings as they are 7 pieces per piston.. The oil scraper ring has a expander a bottom ring then a zigzag ring then a top ring (4 in total), the middle ring has a expander then the ring (2 in total), but the top ring is a single conventional ring.. So many rings made it tricky compressing them into the bore and I twisted one skinny ring on the oil scrapper set... Took ages to straiten it so it would go back in the groove.
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Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:38 am

Oh by the way I picked up a complete black leather interior with recaro's for the right price if you know what I mean :wink:.

Should have them in the car by tomorrow. Pics to come.

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Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:25 am

So for a while now my comfort seats have been on the way out especially the drivers one. So a mate of mine with a 318is decided to sell up and he said I could have his leather recaro interior as he wont be needing it anymore.. Its not in the best condition but it is a step up on the comforts and will do until I find something better or a retrim..

Day started of like this.
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1 hour later we had this.
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Went from this.
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To this in around 2.5 hours
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370mm tech 2 wheel aswell but I will probably sell this as my car is a facelift
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You really sit so much lower in the recaros and even though they are worn they are heaps more supportive..

Paid the right price for them to..... FREE FREE FREE.

Now all I have to do is dye my spare carpet to black so there is not so much miss match of colours in there.

Not bad for a few hours work.

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Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:38 am

Mike, if that is a 370mm wheel, let me know how much you want for it. Perhaps a part swap for the valve springs and money from me to you?

The seats look great, though I suspect that they are sports seats, not Recaros. I wouldn't worry about it, though, as you're still in for a treat given that they are far superior to the comfort seats. Give 'em a clean and a feed and see how much better they come up.
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Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:47 am

Ade its not in the best condition mate it does need a retrim but its yours if you want it my friend.

Hahaha I dint know there was a difference in sport seats and recaros thought they where the same, so what is the differences?
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Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:52 am

Hang on, mate, I'll grab some pics to show the difference.

As for the wheel, I am actually looking for one to have retrimmed so a wonky one would be OK.

Sport seats:

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Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:01 am

Ah I see now, look very similar.

Consider the steering wheel yours mate, now wasnt that easy.
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Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:35 am

Indeed.

Deal done, matey. :thumb:
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Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:13 pm

Todays events saw me changing the big oil seals 3 in total and installing the welsh or freeze plugs depending which part of the world you are from..

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Bottom end gasket set with unknown seals. Not sure about the O-rings, egg shaped gasket and the crush washers.

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Installing the Welsh lugs, with a smear of liquid gasket to make sure the buggers dont leak ever.

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Thats all for today
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Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:43 am

Got a little bit done today, I managed to get the timing case/plate thing on that carries the two oil seals at the front. I also got the one on the back over the crank.

These were tricky

Also got the sump on and I use the proper gasket along with a liquide gasket to make sure it seals, I do it on all gaskets.

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Went to bolt the water pump on but thought I better check it against the old one.

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The bugger is different and all the way from the USA its going to wast alot of time and probably difficult to get a refund as I bought it months ago,

So modification is in order, I will make up a T piece adaptor out of stainless (pics to come)

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Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:29 am

Pretty much finished the bottom end now, just a few bits and bobs left. However it is a little strain on the memory since I stripped the motor down 2-3 months ago. Only one or two bits have had me scratching my head.

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Now I am just waiting on a few parts that I have ordered for the cylinder head to arrive and then I can get cracking on the top half.

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Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:44 am

don't use the VRS head gasket they are cheap shite, use a factory one or from Goetze you can visually see the superior quality.

Didn't want to use B25 pistons to match the 885 head and build a high CR B27/B28? Decking the block in conjunction with vernier cam gear would not have been too difficult or costly.
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Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:08 am

Reggid,

Not using the VRS head gasket I will be using the Elring gasket set for the top part of the motor... I have read VRS has a bad rep when it comes to their head gasket.... Apparently their bottom end set is good though..

As far as the 325 pistons the cost is what turned me off, I would have to get a set of pistons then machine down the skirts to clear the crank... So I am afraid the cot out weighed the gains for just a few compression points.. Anyway looks like I may be using a ported out 731 head so I still will have good compression...

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Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:01 am

Bert the water pump pulley is on the wrong way round! also when refitting the engine i'd drop the PAS pump off as it catches on everything when craning back in.

Coming on nicely isn't it
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Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:06 am

Simon,

Thanks for the heads up mate... Would of figured that out when it came time to fitting the belts..

Yes its coming on well... Cant bloody wait thats for sure..

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Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:34 pm

Got some new bits today..

VDO oil pressure gauge and hose..

And a box of parts... clutch master and slave. guilbo, another oil filter . The bag contains center oil line, valve guides, flywheel bolts, clutch alignment tool, throw out bearing, oil return washer and a big O-ring...

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Thats it for now..
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Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:07 am

Todays update is....

T piece to go in place of original oil pressure switch, this lets me run a oil pressure gauge aswell as retain the oil pressure light (idiot light) in the instrument cluster
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Double valve springs have arrived, thanks Ade.
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And I went to the cylinder head shop to see how the machining is going on my head. He has given it a quick clean (not finished) and welded up that crater that was in the combustion chamber.
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He has to weld up the porosity in the weld.. Happens when welding up alloy that has had oil on it.. The oil causes porosity in the weld..
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Cylinder head should be finished mid way through next week. Now I have to wait on people to send the rest of the parts.

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Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:58 pm

m_jermyn wrote: Double valve springs have arrived, thanks Ade.
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Yessssssssssss!

Nice one, matey ~ I hope you're pleased with them. It took a bit of doing but I managed to keep faith with Australia Post. :)

Keep them updates a'commin'!
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Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:01 am

Little bit of a update.... Not much really just a mix of things that needed doing while I still await my other stuff to arrive..

Mounted my oil pressure switch along with the T-Piece for the oil pressure gauge.
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Then it was time to find a position for the oil pressure gauge. I didnt want it in the vents as I like my A/C in summer. I did not want to cut any holes in the car either. So the only thing I dont use in the car is the ashtray... Smoking kills
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Not sure I am happy with end result.... The vinyl does not match the vinyl.
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Fabbed up a T-Piece so I can use the wrong water pump that got sent..
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Painted some parts
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Set the oil return tube for the head with new o-rings.
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And I recieved my head today from the shop.... Double springs fitted, supplied by Ade :thumb:
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Thats it for now..... Until the rest of my stuff arrives... Hope it arrives soon as I want to get this thing finished and in the car.

Mike
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Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:22 pm

keep the pics coming, loving this thread.
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Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:13 pm

Yeah - great thread - anyone else reading it in an australian accent? :mad:
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Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:58 pm

strangely no, must be a porridge wog thing?
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Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:00 pm

Looking badical.

I'm sure I've seen a proper black plastic gauge mount for the same position on sale - but it has 3 gauge holes.
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Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:50 am

Thanks for all the positive comments guys.

Todays little update.. Rockers.

I sent a set off to be cleaned and this is the difference.

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I ordered some of these and since I am running out of things to do while I wait for the inlet manifold and T/B, I thought I might fit them up...

Rocker eccentrics

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New eccentric Vs old eccentric..... Cant see the difference except the oil I hear you say? Yeah me either.

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12 refurbished rockers ready to roll.

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Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:51 am

I also tried on these..

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Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:35 am

Those headers are just pure sex!
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:36 pm

That's not an 'oil return tube',it's the crankcase breather!
Lookin' good,Mike!
Shame you guys lost at cricket.....
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:44 pm

hahahaha piss off.... You win one thing and rub our noses in it...
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:51 pm

m_jermyn wrote:hahahaha pee pee off.... You win one thing and rub our noses in it...
But cricket used to be such a gentlemanly game....until you Aussies burnt the bloody wickets!
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