how do you take off the black panel where the sun visors are? i need to remove this to get to my mirror so i can fit my newly aquired map light mirror (thanks kos!!)
anyone give me any help on this? by the way, i dont have a 'check control' panel...
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You must have a lecky roof den! (SAFE.....!!!)
Well its easy, eight screws holding the sun visors on, those hold the pannel up.
If you want to take it right out then you need to open the sun roof and take the wind deflector off the pannel will then drop down.
How are you going to run the wires?
Andrew
Well its easy, eight screws holding the sun visors on, those hold the pannel up.
If you want to take it right out then you need to open the sun roof and take the wind deflector off the pannel will then drop down.
How are you going to run the wires?
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yes, good ol' leccy roof!Demlotcrew wrote:You must have a lecky roof den! (SAFE.....!!!)
Well its easy, eight screws holding the sun visors on, those hold the pannel up
i thought it might be the 8 screws, but i didnt wanna just jump to conclusions!!
kos told me that i should already have the loom that i need to plug it into. if i dont, where do you suggest i run the wires?
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I wired mine to the interior light on the drivers side. With a little bit of trickery, you can wire it so the lights come on when you open the door, then go out when you close it, but you can still turn them on with the door closed.
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i like the sound of that james!!
what wires were they?
what wires were they?
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I did the same as james in my 316i but havnt bother putting it in my IS
Bollocks to this 24v scrap!
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Think you would need to solder in a diaode to do that.Jamesb318is wrote:I wired mine to the interior light on the drivers side. With a little bit of trickery, you can wire it so the lights come on when you open the door, then go out when you close it, but you can still turn them on with the door closed.
If kos has given you the loom then thats all you need to make it work.
HTH
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Live goes to one part of switch, door contact earthed wire goes to other part of switch, and a permanent earth to the final pole of the switch. That way, either side of the sitch is earthed, but is off when set to the door contact one if the door is closed.
To do this you need to take the mirror apart (just unclips, and rearrange the wires to the switches so each side has an earth) then run the earth wire you have added up into the arm of the mirror so that it touches the metal inside. that way, when you fit the mirror, the metal arm touches the body and makes the circuit.
Damn that sounds confusing, does it make any sense? its hard to explain!
To do this you need to take the mirror apart (just unclips, and rearrange the wires to the switches so each side has an earth) then run the earth wire you have added up into the arm of the mirror so that it touches the metal inside. that way, when you fit the mirror, the metal arm touches the body and makes the circuit.
Damn that sounds confusing, does it make any sense? its hard to explain!
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Useful pics, but that only lets you switch it on by the switch and wont come on with the doors.
And as for the scotchlocks - NO! NO! NO!
And as for the scotchlocks - NO! NO! NO!
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sorry fella, not havin a go at you!
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No worries, people like to see pics when doing stuff like this!
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nice one boys!! thats gonna help a lot
james, that makes no sense!! you might have to go further in depth! steve, thanks for the info mate
im gonna call it a day now, but i might try during the week...
i'd like it so they illuminate when the door opens, and when the car is off
james, that makes no sense!! you might have to go further in depth! steve, thanks for the info mate
im gonna call it a day now, but i might try during the week...
i'd like it so they illuminate when the door opens, and when the car is off
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its only a '2 stage' switch though. you've mentioned 3 parts...Jamesb318is wrote:Live goes to one part of switch, door contact earthed wire goes to other part of switch, and a permanent earth to the final pole of the switch
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I'll take some pictures, im not removing the mirror though, they're pigs to get back in!
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Righty-ho.
This picture shows the black and white wires going from the red spade connectors to the permanent earth that is the ball and socket joint you can see the existing two wires going into and coming out the top. (When the mirror is fitted, it is touching the metal roof) If you just bare the ends of your wire and feed them in and glue them, this does the job.
You then give one side of the bulb a positive feed, from a fused 12v source (drivers int light) and the other side a switched earth (from the drivers int light switched by the door contact) Use the existing mirror loom.
Then add another wire linking the earth from the bulb to the the swithced earth wire to the switch.
This means the bulb always has a live feed, and that when in one switch position it earths through the mirror arm, and the other position it earths through the int light wire so comes on when you open the door.
Hope this sheds some more light! (geddit LIGHT!
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This picture shows the black and white wires going from the red spade connectors to the permanent earth that is the ball and socket joint you can see the existing two wires going into and coming out the top. (When the mirror is fitted, it is touching the metal roof) If you just bare the ends of your wire and feed them in and glue them, this does the job.
You then give one side of the bulb a positive feed, from a fused 12v source (drivers int light) and the other side a switched earth (from the drivers int light switched by the door contact) Use the existing mirror loom.
Then add another wire linking the earth from the bulb to the the swithced earth wire to the switch.
This means the bulb always has a live feed, and that when in one switch position it earths through the mirror arm, and the other position it earths through the int light wire so comes on when you open the door.
Hope this sheds some more light! (geddit LIGHT!
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so the black wire is supplying a live to the bulb permanently? and the white/black wire is a switchable earth?
but i dont get how you've got all these wires running to the bulb and the switch?!
can you explain wires A and B for me!!! sorry for being a pain in the arse
but i dont get how you've got all these wires running to the bulb and the switch?!
can you explain wires A and B for me!!! sorry for being a pain in the arse
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im assuming A and B are both lives? but if they are, i cant undrstand why you have two different wires running to the bulb?!
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Not sure about the wires either 
but i think i'm getting the jist of it, the bit i wanted to say is when you unscrew the sunroof wind deflector its the two screws underneath there that hold the trim panel up.
If you don't remove them you break the plastic clips off the panel and have just waisted your time removing the deflector.
Nothing major if you have, you just need to glue them back to the panel.
Jamesb318is
So i take it its not possible to turn the lights off when the door is open (eg. when working on the car)
but i think i'm getting the jist of it, the bit i wanted to say is when you unscrew the sunroof wind deflector its the two screws underneath there that hold the trim panel up.If you don't remove them you break the plastic clips off the panel and have just waisted your time removing the deflector.
Nothing major if you have, you just need to glue them back to the panel.
Jamesb318is
So i take it its not possible to turn the lights off when the door is open (eg. when working on the car)
There is NO nucleus.
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yup, i know all about this!!!Martinaston wrote:is when you unscrew the sunroof wind deflector its the two screws underneath there that hold the trim panel up.
If you don't remove them you break the plastic clips off the panel and have just waisted your time removing the deflector.
Nothing major if you have, you just need to glue them back to the panel
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Mines different to James'
Heres the explanation of how I did it
http://www.e30zone.co.uk/modules.php?na ... ght+mirror
Heres the explanation of how I did it
http://www.e30zone.co.uk/modules.php?na ... ght+mirror
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Dan, thats just made it a whole load easier i think!!!
thanks for all your help guys! i'll let you know how i get on
thanks for all your help guys! i'll let you know how i get on
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A is a fused permanent live, b is a contact switched earth.
Correct, lights stay on when door is open, just close it or hold the contact in when you want to work on it!
This way, when you switch either of the maplights on, all the interior lights come on because you're giving them an earth. Not for everyone, but im well chuffed with it!
Red is live, brown is earth
Door open
Switch on, door closed
Correct, lights stay on when door is open, just close it or hold the contact in when you want to work on it!
This way, when you switch either of the maplights on, all the interior lights come on because you're giving them an earth. Not for everyone, but im well chuffed with it!
Red is live, brown is earth
Door open
Switch on, door closed