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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:07 pm

ok guys i remembered that when i fitted my viper chip into my old IS (god forgive me) that the old one i took out had some wierd numbers printed on it

i dug my old ECU out today and whipped the chip out an its a bizarre little number

on the front of it it says:

SC0064 5503
6378MD4 BBR
21-10-1997 BM

anyone got any idea where its from an if its any good?

out of a 318is people
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:22 pm

its a bbr fitted 0ct 97.....
sorry if this was the obvious ....
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:31 pm

:roll: anyone else?
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:34 pm

Star*Chip Application list for BMW's - For the latest BMW models please check our EVO-2 list

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Alpina C35 2.7 Conv 12valve 225BHP
318is 16 valve inc Coup E36 166BHP
Give them a call and find out for sure



BBR-GTi Ltd.
Unit One, Oxford Road,
Brackley, Northants,
NN13 7DY,
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Telephone: +44 (0) 1280 700800

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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:35 pm

chrikey

any other suggestions? it just seems a bit weird that the chip was replaced after 7 years?

its now in the car!
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:58 pm

well in the late 90s when fitted they were around 150-170 ish pound and the power increase is quoted at 166 now .this is for the starchip which it will have been.
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:07 pm

for a 1990 318is?

160 brake winkeye ?!

im going to fit it now
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:39 pm

sounds :cool: mate!
give them a buzz mate, see what they reckon! how did your last one compare to your current one? if it had that much increase you'd definitely know about it.... still doesn't explain why you had trouble with jayson's chip?
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:47 pm

mayeb the system was use to running this one?

i just installed it in the dark somehow, i have a spare ecu with standard chip incase it goes wrong, but i jsut started the car an it idled perfect

going for a drive to my birds in a mo so will update later

watch this thread people my search for a chip could be over!
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:50 pm

I'll be interested to hear how it goes!
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:50 pm

The 318iS is a real parts bin, there are 3 common ECUs used, all of which require a specific motronic version and checksum. Thats why I stopped developing them and left it to others.

good luck with the "BBR", they are good chips, however IMHO their idea of customer service leaves a LOT to be desired
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:52 pm

good job i wont be dealing with them then!

hopefully il notice a difference, instead of just a mental one i had iwth my viper before realising it was slowly killing the car

will update after a long drive in a few hours lads
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:58 pm

318-is wrote:good job i wont be dealing with them then!

hopefully il notice a difference, instead of just a mental one i had iwth my viper before realising it was slowly killing the car

will update after a long drive in a few hours lads
I've had the same problem with my Viper chip!
Stuck it on the roller's expecting a decent result, in a sence (M40), and was very disapointed :-x
Put my original stock chip back in and everything is smooth and more responsive, trouble is it make's me fill like i'll be wasting my money buying a different chip :(

Does the Zone chip HONESTLY make a difference? :?
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:59 pm

i think the zone chip does

the amount of people that run it no one complains, at all, where as the viper it was 50/50

deffo worth it, i wud buy one if ant did em for the IS boys
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:05 pm

jonbuoy. the M40 zone chip has been well recieved by the few that have purchased one, always been dissapointed by the lack of take up on those :?

chips can be a very personal thing, another mans gravy and all that, some people want more everywhere( where poss ) others want a peaky feeling, me, I'll take the former everytime

no disrespect to Jay please peeps, lets put all that behind us and keep '06 a happy place :cool:
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:08 pm

yep its all opinion, not dissing him at all just never caught on with that chip

so what exactly is the problem with the IS's ant? iv never quite understood it? i heard you did them for some time what was the problem with them?
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:21 pm

ant wrote:jonbuoy. the M40 zone chip has been well recieved by the few that have purchased one, always been dissapointed by the lack of take up on those :?

chips can be a very personal thing, another mans gravy and all that, some people want more everywhere( where poss ) others want a peaky feeling, me, I'll take the former everytime

no disrespect to Jay please peeps, lets put all that behind us and keep '06 a happy place :cool:
I might have to take you up on that geese, as long as it does make a difference :wink:
The chip i've got has spike's in it showing on the graph i got from the roller's :roll: It did'nt feel bad on the road as you had a thrust up your back side at 3500rpm and 4500rpm as it showed on the graph but travelling at 70mph meant i was running at 3300rpm and using load's of fuel for no reason :mad: :-x
It was good fun for a while but the stock chip is just as good if not better considering i'm not using anywhere near as much fuel :P Just wasted money finding this out which has pissed me off :x
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:52 pm

ok peeps

went for a "spirited drive" to walton and back, about 30 mile round trip

i can only say that there is deffo more torque at high revs, overtakign above 3k was effortless.

low revs still not that good though

but deffo an improvement
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:57 pm

is your engine good state of tune to start with,plugs filters etc
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:57 pm

is there an ecu and afm in the car i got off you dan?? would that be my chip!!! winkeye
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Post Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:58 pm

ok peeps

went for a "spirited drive" to walton and back, about 30 mile round trip

i can only say that there is deffo more torque at high revs, overtakign above 3k was effortless.

low revs still not that good though

but deffo an improvement
nice one dude, happy with that then :D
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Post Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:05 am

gcorky, car has been immaculatly serviced its whole life, i have stakcs of paperwork. if u mean the old one then i have no idea about the history really

kos, funnily enough i do still have your afm mate in the garage. and a spare ECU if you want it? the chip is mine though winkeye

oguuz dude, im quite happy still need to do a bit more driving to see if there really is any difference. better still a rolling road!
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Post Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:08 am

gcorky wrote:is your engine good state of tune to start with,plugs filters etc
If you mean't me mate then yes, everything is, "Tip Top" :D


Nice one Dan, sound's like a good move :cool:
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Post Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:11 am

jonbuoy wrote:
gcorky wrote:is your engine good state of tune to start with,plugs filters etc
If you mean't me mate then yes, everything is, "Tip Top" :D


Nice one Dan, sound's like a good move :cool:
no meant 318-is sorry
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Post Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:13 am

:lol:

my new one is tip top.

my old one, no idea. mate i had done a lot of servicing myself but jasons chip made it misfire n stuff

thats why today i drove to the redline to see if it was fuckign it up an it wasnt,no misfiring. next job is to get a mate to follow me an look for black smoke, another sign of overfueling that i got!
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Post Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:28 am

I had a, "Viper 2 Ultimate" off of SwirlyE30 and that made it over fuel. I believe the expresion from the bloke at the Surrey Rolling Road was, "It's over fuelling like a Rover V8" 8O :eek: :?
I should have just adjusted the afm at the MOT station but did'nt think about it and now i've broken one of the tag's off through rage :x :P
The chip i got off Jason is a, "Viper 2 Extreme". I was'nt that impressed with it so Jason offered to remap it for me, except i had to go to Birmingham for this from Essex but i wanted the best for my car :? So off me and the misses went and we remapped it going along the road. It seemed pretty alright but after a few day's the performance seem to die down and i found out that on the roller's it showed spike's on the graph where it was adding load's of fuel at different rpm's ie Spike's.

Chucked in the Stock chip and she's going back to her old self, getting alot better after 3500 rpm :D :D :D
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Post Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:31 am

jonbuoy wrote:I had a, "Viper 2 Ultimate" off of SwirlyE30 and that made it over fuel. I believe the expresion from the bloke at the Surrey Rolling Road was, "It's over fuelling like a Rover V8" 8O :eek: :?
I should have just adjusted the afm at the MOT station but did'nt think about it and now i've broken one of the tag's off through rage :x :P
The chip i got off Jason is a, "Viper 2 Extreme". I was'nt that impressed with it so Jason offered to remap it for me, except i had to go to Birmingham for this from Essex but i wanted the best for my car :? So off me and the misses went and we remapped it going along the road. It seemed pretty alright but after a few day's the performance seem to die down and i found out that on the roller's it showed spike's on the graph where it was adding load's of fuel at different rpm's ie Spike's.

Chucked in the Stock chip and she's going back to her old self, getting alot better after 3500 rpm :D :D :D
another amazing bit of work from jason
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Post Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:32 am

hmm imho, an not meaning to start shit, i would steer clear of that viper stuff

i would deffo try a zone chip jon
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Post Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:37 am

318-is wrote:hmm imho, an not meaning to start shit, i would steer clear of that viper stuff
no just stating the facts

i could go on but it bores me now

i'll visit him one day at a bmw show winkeye
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Post Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:40 am

:lol:

Kos ever heard of BBR star chips? apparently they are good!
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Post Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:41 am

318-is wrote:hmm imho, an not meaning to start shit, i would steer clear of that viper stuff

i would deffo try a zone chip jon
I do want to try the Zone chip geese but i'm fed up with spending out and not getting result's :x
I'd be happy to have a test drive with the Zone chip tho..........Ant winkeye
Other zoner's will no doubt say it's because it's a 4 pot and M40 but this is the best M40 i've driven. I've been complimented on a few occasion's how quick it is for an M40 so i know there is more to come, especially how good my compression is, 180psi :D
I've been told i can do a lot with that winkeye
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Post Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:41 am

whats that in normal ratings, about 12 bar innit?
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Post Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:42 am

brodie brittain racing, used to be a touring car driver in the 80's i thnk
theu used to build m20 2.5 with 235bhp and did turbou kits for almost any bm

very very good back in the day, when you were still in pampers!!
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Post Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:44 am

318-is wrote:whats that in normal ratings, about 12 bar innit?
I'm not sure mate. I done a compression test and it was 180psi on 1,3 & 4 and 170psi on 2 :D

EDIT: 12.8 bar
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Post Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:45 am

jon jsut get the chip dude its basically proven

im sure there are buyers on here if it doesnt work anyway

kos in the mid 90s i was out of pampers dude (just)

u rekon its worth the keep?