starting problems again
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alfa12177
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morning .car has been getting harder to start over the last couple of weeks and running rough until up to temp.now it wont start at all.plenty of fuel in it new fuel filter fitted fuelpump defo working.where should I start looking next ? car does turn over many thanks chris great forum by the way
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Grrrmachine
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We need to know what car it is to give proper answers. Engine model and year please.
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jmc330i
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I'd be popping the spark plugs out and looking to see if they're sooted up. Give them a good clean with a wire brush, check for a spark on each plug (rest each plug in turn on the rocker cover so the metal screw thread is grounding out on the rocker and turn the engine over - a spark should be visible) and if each plug sparks ok after you've cleaned then, pop them back in and see if the engine will fire up.
If it does, I'd be checking the blue temp sensor, which if faulty (or the plug between sensor and ECU) will cause the engine to run rich and soot the plugs up. If left to carry on, (especially if you've been cranking the engine lots to try and start it) the plugs can get so dirty that they won't spark cleanly and eventually not well enough to fire the engine.
Blue temp sensor testing - http://www.e30zone.net/e30zonewiki/inde ... or#Testing
Checking for spark - http://www.e30zone.net/e30zonewiki/inde ... _for_Spark
If it does, I'd be checking the blue temp sensor, which if faulty (or the plug between sensor and ECU) will cause the engine to run rich and soot the plugs up. If left to carry on, (especially if you've been cranking the engine lots to try and start it) the plugs can get so dirty that they won't spark cleanly and eventually not well enough to fire the engine.
Blue temp sensor testing - http://www.e30zone.net/e30zonewiki/inde ... or#Testing
Checking for spark - http://www.e30zone.net/e30zonewiki/inde ... _for_Spark
James
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Grrrmachine
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As JMC says, check your sparks. If you're driving the car with lots of little stops rather than a good long drive, then it'll constantly be in "warm up" mode and run rich, fouling the plugs. A simple service (new plugs, oil and filters) should set things straight.
If your plugs are ok, I'd start looking around all the rubber air intake hoses for cracks or splits. Even a small hole can stop a cold engine from starting.
If your plugs are ok, I'd start looking around all the rubber air intake hoses for cracks or splits. Even a small hole can stop a cold engine from starting.
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alfa12177
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thanks for the help will let you know how i get on
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alfa12177
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new plugs fitted car starts. still a bit lumpy until up to temp.
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Grrrmachine
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We still need to know what the old plugs looked like.
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Time to measure the blue temp. sensor resistance AT THE ECU PLUG.
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jmc330i
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Brianmoooore wrote:Time to measure the blue temp. sensor resistance AT THE ECU PLUG.
I posted the link you need in my first postalfa12177 wrote:how do you do that ?
James
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