Opinion please .... Toyo versus Dunlop versus Nankang

Need technical Q/A then you're in the right place

Moderator: martauto

GDBN
E30 Zone Camper
E30 Zone Camper
Posts: 1415
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Copenhagen

Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:57 pm

Hi there ...Before buying new boots for the 15" BBS was wondering what zoners thoughts and experiences were with the above tyres.
Was looking at Dunlop SP Sport 9000 , Toyo Proxes T1-R and Nankang NS-1 all in 205/55 size.
Thanks G
Simon13
The longest resto in the world !
Posts: 22697
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Camberley, Surrey don't u know

Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:59 pm

toyo or dunlop in my opinion. Never had nankang but i heard they are not good in the wet
Lordschleife
E30 Zone Squatter
E30 Zone Squatter
Posts: 1915
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sunny Southsea
Contact:

Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:05 pm

From that lot I'd go for the Toyo
If you can stretch to it though get some Goodyear eagle F1s
Cheers,
Robin

Image
Karan
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 8004
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Cheshunt, Hertfordshire

Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:48 pm

now ive always been a toyo fan/./... i always had t1s however i recently bought some t1r and have not yet been happy

there appears to be a lot of flex even at high pressure like 37psi this may just be cos they havent bed in yet however... the wet weather performance is however astonishing!!!! i can floor my car in 1st gear and it doesnt spin at all!!!! even woith 220lbft torque!!

its feeling unstable in the dry..... not sliding.... just feelign wobbly... will have to bed them in more i think
Karan
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 8004
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Cheshunt, Hertfordshire

Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:48 pm

toyo T1s is great though!! :cool:
GDBN
E30 Zone Camper
E30 Zone Camper
Posts: 1415
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Copenhagen

Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:08 pm

Hi mate ....online tyre shop over here has both ... T1-S and T1R ... the S is about Ԛ£47 delivered but not fitted and the R a couple of quid more . That about the same as prices in England ??
Richy325iTouring
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 3490
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Newport SouthWales
Contact:

Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:09 pm

Simon13 wrote:toyo or dunlop in my opinion. Never had nankang but i heard they are not good in the wet
very true even worse than pirelli

nankang are nankrap
Image
Lordschleife
E30 Zone Squatter
E30 Zone Squatter
Posts: 1915
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sunny Southsea
Contact:

Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:14 pm

Karan wrote:now ive always been a toyo fan/./... i always had t1s however i recently bought some t1r and have not yet been happy

there appears to be a lot of flex even at high pressure like 37psi this may just be cos they havent bed in yet however... the wet weather performance is however astonishing!!!! i can floor my car in 1st gear and it doesnt spin at all!!!! even woith 220lbft torque!!

its feeling unstable in the dry..... not sliding.... just feelign wobbly... will have to bed them in more i think
Yeah the r has the 2 extra grooves cut in for water dispersing/preventing aquaplaning
Cheers,
Robin

Image
Dan318-is
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 8006
Joined: Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Surrey/London

Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:18 pm

iv had yokahama on two cars now n they all been banging, grip well in the dry and wet i think, having said this my dads TVR has toyos n they r the daddy

goodyear n michelin are usually best i thought?
User avatar
fowler
Boost Junkie
Posts: 3468
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: New Addington/Croydon
Contact:

Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:20 pm

nankang are cac has anyone elese tried bridgestones potenzas
i have on my all round
grip like the perverbials ( dodgy spelling :oops:) in the wet
regards
Ben
rickk
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 96
Joined: Tue May 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Netherlands, E30-1 325i
Contact:

Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:31 pm

Drifters over here like Nankang (don't know which model) because they're rock hard and therefore have no grip and last long.... so... 8)

I'm all for Potenza's.. 720s or Pole Positions.
Karan
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 8004
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Cheshunt, Hertfordshire

Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:38 pm

rickk wrote:Drifters over here like Nankang (don't know which model) because they're rock hard and therefore have no grip and last long.... so... 8)

I'm all for Potenza's.. 720s or Pole Positions.

hmm i think ill gfet me some nankangs for the back end then.....
dazleeds
old skool raver
old skool raver
Posts: 12883
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Empire Building @

Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:40 pm

fookin hell the gugs gonna slide even more 8)
www.oldskoolfantasy.co.uk
in the shit,the one to blame,yeh its all my fault ;)
johnono
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 4677
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: land of the vikings

Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:48 pm

whats the score on continentals? i had em before and they dont last long :(
Jhonno
Homo Hair
Posts: 20362
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: FLAT, FLAT, FLAT!!
Contact:

Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:11 pm

outta that lot i'd get the Dunlops imo

Toyo's not sure about yet - only driven them twice so far

Nankangs are actually pretty good in the dry..... in the wet/slippery conditions however they leave alot to be desired. Nice and cheap tho

bit of a weird set to compare really - one from budget, one from mid range and the other is high end
Got cable ties? Get diffin..

Arch roller for hire.

www.zeroexhausts.co.uk

Image
GDBN
E30 Zone Camper
E30 Zone Camper
Posts: 1415
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Copenhagen

Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:46 pm

Funny you should say that ... this internet site over here has them and they are priced within Ԛ£13 of each other. Dunlop lists at Ԛ£93 - sells 'em for Ԛ£52, Toyo lists at Ԛ£56 - sells 'em for Ԛ£54 and the Nankangs are just Ԛ£39 - no discount . So looking at that the Dunlops are the best value and actually have an overall rating close to the Goodyear Eagle F1.
Sjoerd320i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 4035
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Heemskerk, Holland

Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:47 pm

toyo all the way m8 :wink:
Image
GDBN
E30 Zone Camper
E30 Zone Camper
Posts: 1415
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Copenhagen

Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:49 pm

And the tread pattern on the Dunlop is just about the same as the Toyo ...look like good tyres -b oth of 'em
Nankangs are off the list - thanks for the input, guys
Jhonno
Homo Hair
Posts: 20362
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: FLAT, FLAT, FLAT!!
Contact:

Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:31 pm

for that money - dunlops for sure!!
Got cable ties? Get diffin..

Arch roller for hire.

www.zeroexhausts.co.uk

Image
Richy325iTouring
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 3490
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Newport SouthWales
Contact:

Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:39 pm

best tyre i had for grip was uniroyl rainsports
loads of grip in wet but they dont lat long

5000 miles they lasted onmy scirocco
Image
User avatar
peejay
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 588
Joined: Thu May 05, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: East Midlands

Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:19 am

Well I have Nankang all round on 17's and its like driving on rails imo, Ive just come home in pouring rain and as usual cornered like car and tarmac are connected. The tyres were recommended to me as semi racing quality, I'd never heard of them before and for the price I'm made up with 'em tbh.

So it surprises me some of you guys dont rate them.
:eek:

Peejay.
Life begins at 40 ( to matter!)
Adam318i
E30 Zone Squatter
E30 Zone Squatter
Posts: 1649
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Cornwall

Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:03 am

Yea most of the people dont rate them, but how many have actually driven on them? :squint:
Image
I love my Rice!
Richy325iTouring
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 3490
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Newport SouthWales
Contact:

Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:31 am

peejay wrote:Well I have Nankang all round on 17's and its like driving on rails imo, Ive just come home in pouring rain and as usual cornered like car and tarmac are connected. The tyres were recommended to me as semi racing quality, I'd never heard of them before and for the price I'm made up with 'em tbh.

So it surprises me some of you guys dont rate them.
:eek:

Peejay.
ive driven a corrado with them on my bm with them on and also a rover turbo with them on and in my honest opinion they are crap and really crap in the rain
Image
User avatar
hoshy
E30 Zone Wiki Guru
E30 Zone Wiki Guru
Posts: 4118
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Munich

Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:02 am

johnono wrote:whats the score on continentals? i had em before and they dont last long :(
I think the contis and things like michelin energy have something like sillica compound for a lower rolling resistance but every one i've seen or had seems to wear quite quick. I'd says they're fine as oem on an astra or something but there's much better to be had.

personally I like the lower end yokos. cheap good wet and dry performance and don't break the bank (cos no matter what I'm gonna get through 'em quick)

however speaking to touringdaddy he reckons the yokos are pretty shite in the wet compared to some of the higher end stuff. I can't say cos I've never had anything more up market than the lower end yokos (s306, a011) I've yet to really test the a011 but the s306 I was very happy with.

personally I'm fan of topgear.co.uk for my tyres. used them a couple of times.
E46 M3 CSL but dreaming of another E30.
Adammcf
E30 Zone Squatter
E30 Zone Squatter
Posts: 1578
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:00 pm

Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:22 am

Mine has Dunlops on the front and they seem ok. The back end has loads less grip.
Ive also had Toyos on my last two cars and they were excellent.
Nangkangs are pure sh**e. Every single person I know who has had them said they were dangerous.
As said above their only real use is for drifting. My friends back in Ireland buy them when they go for "practicing sessions" lol.
DaveD
E30Zone Wiki Specialist
Posts: 5129
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sheffield

Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:27 pm

got them on my fiat coupe ...god value but harsh...excellent on the m way but can feel every bump on the crap local roads...corner wel but my fiat is front drive but just a might(!!!)faster than my325
Simon
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 14936
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: South Wales
Contact:

Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:27 pm

I can say I've had nankangs too, they were OK in the dry, but in the wet were dangerous, I'd never use them ( I only had them becasue they were already fitted to the wheels I had!)
Image
Jhonno
Homo Hair
Posts: 20362
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: FLAT, FLAT, FLAT!!
Contact:

Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:16 pm

I've been driving on nankangs for the last few months so yes i have driven on them
Got cable ties? Get diffin..

Arch roller for hire.

www.zeroexhausts.co.uk

Image
ZS
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 161
Joined: Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Belfast, N. Ireland.

Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:33 pm

Another vote for the Potenza RE720. Cracking tyre.
Once driven, forever smitten.
Direct injection, turboed, intercooled, 16 valves giving a whopping 48.5hp/litre!! :(
gcorky
Boost Junkie
Posts: 2009
Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: n.e england

Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:26 pm

anyone heard of barum,no1 autocar magazine,205,50,15 at 39 each to go on my bbs-will let you know cos im gonna gett em :eek:
320Touring
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 12316
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Glasgow (Scotland)

Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:39 pm

gcorky wrote:anyone heard of barum,no1 autocar magazine,205,50,15 at 39 each to go on my bbs-will let you know cos im gonna gett em :eek:
barum are conti's "budget" brand-driven tehm a few times and for the money they are very good-tidy in the dry and surefooted in the wet :cool:
The big Unit Parts Clear out Make me an offer on parts!
http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... 81#2766881
SwirlyE30
E30 Zone Squatter
E30 Zone Squatter
Posts: 1509
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Worthing-Brighton South Coast
Contact:

Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:41 pm

Im running nankangs all round lol, maybe thats why i get constant understeer and front wheel sliding in the wet, they seem to be a bit shit. Best set up would be nangcraps on the rear, and some F1's or similar up front!
1986 Chevrolet Corvette. 330ftlb torque....V8s rule!
User avatar
hoshy
E30 Zone Wiki Guru
E30 Zone Wiki Guru
Posts: 4118
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Munich

Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:54 pm

SwirlyE30 wrote:Im running nankangs all round lol, maybe thats why i get constant understeer and front wheel sliding in the wet, they seem to be a bit sh*t. Best set up would be nangcraps on the rear, and some F1's or similar up front!
lol. I got some optima mega on the front atm (soon moving to the back) absolute shite! understeer is crazy even if not pushing it. even in the dry they're shite. Sam, I'd get something half decent up front. oversteer you be dealt with a bit easier than understeer and it's far more fun. imho understeer in a rwd is alot more dangerours than fwd.

edit: lol, can I never stay on topic!
E46 M3 CSL but dreaming of another E30.
User avatar
zeeks
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 19
Joined: Sun May 01, 2005 11:00 pm

Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:16 pm

Nankang are terrible in the wet and they wear our quite easily, as far as dunlop or toyo
toyo any day of the week
Lordschleife
E30 Zone Squatter
E30 Zone Squatter
Posts: 1915
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sunny Southsea
Contact:

Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:23 pm

320Touring wrote:
gcorky wrote:anyone heard of barum,no1 autocar magazine,205,50,15 at 39 each to go on my bbs-will let you know cos im gonna gett em :eek:
barum are conti's "budget" brand-driven tehm a few times and for the money they are very good-tidy in the dry and surefooted in the wet :cool:
As long as they dont overheat, I head of someone driving with these on the ring and within 2 laps the rubber had 'chunked'
Cheers,
Robin

Image
Post Reply