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Wed May 24, 2006 6:24 pm

those engines are not cheap full stop, just because they are NA doesn't mean they are easy to work on!

as said get pete,demlot,phil at birds to looks at it. They all know the said engine well

if u can't bleed an S14 up Si u might aswell go home!!!

i thought the alpina B6s was the rad to use on this conversion? or E28M5 is it.
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Wed May 24, 2006 7:09 pm

Oh well thanks for all the help, i never said once i was going to spend £1500 to get those parts fitted, i said it was what the mechanic suggested, i am not saying he is right, but he drives an E30 M3 BMW as his everday car and has one he races, and works all day on Ferrarri's, Porsche's and racing cars, etc, If bootyman had read this thread he could confirm this as he knows the mechanic in question and his prices, and could probably tell you about his £250,000 race car featured above, his E36 with an E46 M3 Lump and all the other projects, but i would not want to bore you with all that.

So if i am not going to spend £1500 to do this work, all your suggestions M5pilot are kind of out the window, as for my car feeling fucked, the only thing i agree with you is the brakes, i dont like stiff suspension, and will never take my car on a track, quite happy with the standard suspension it has, and so are most people who have driven my car, but each to there own and you seem to change your mind every time you say something about my car, but who cares :roll:

And as for driving the car to overheat and blow the head :mad: not an option. :mad:

I listened to the sensible advice of GermanGorilla and co, and had some work done and all i can say is thanks to those who led me in the right direction, had some mods done, tuning and an induction kit, now i am on 328BHP and have an estimated 4.9sec 0 to 60 car the mechanic reckons, AND I SAID RECKONS, :D have to test this out though, but i have a smile on my face for now and to tell the truth i dont really care :wink:
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Wed May 24, 2006 10:26 pm

Well said
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Thu May 25, 2006 12:36 am

maxfield wrote:I'd guess £200-£250

you must be having a laugh, you must be on the same drugs as your mate devo!!!!! for 250 you might get your gasket set.

head hasket on these engines is en engine out job, especially if its an e30, its to much hard work to get manifolds off with the engine in the car a working space is very restricted. i've seen it done on an e34m5, ant they took engine out to make it simpler.
i'm not even going to hazzard a guess what it would cost, but there are not many people qualified to do this sort of work.

it pays to be patien with a problem like this, you cannot jump the gun and splash the cash to find out its not solved

glad to hear you got it sorted mate
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Thu May 25, 2006 9:08 am

These are a few pics i took from the garage of the mechanic in questions. I see a F40, verious other Rrari's and a Jag E Type. Now you dont get cars like that in your garage unless you know your stuff winkeye

Anyway i spoke to him lastnight and he reckons your jerk chicken sensor has gone, which means the Alien's will soon know about it. Usually theu charge £300 to dispose of the engine for you, but as you're a mate, i will give you £500 :?

You can always take it to Bexleys :wink:

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Thu May 25, 2006 9:31 am

:offtopic: but that 131 Abarth in booty's pic's is the dogs danglies.

Sorry, get a little excited when I spot one winkeye
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Thu May 25, 2006 12:45 pm

Thanks Booty, hopefully that will silence the critics :roll:
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Thu May 25, 2006 12:50 pm

What about your Jerk Chicken sensor though mate? You dont to be taken away by no Alien's do you :? :mad:
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Thu May 25, 2006 1:04 pm

thats verdi garage innit could have got you discount patrick
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Thu May 25, 2006 1:18 pm

His name is Elias keeper of my Toplines :D His garage is amazing. They talk about £Thousands for an engine like it's loose pocket change. He's currently got a E46 M3 lump that he wants to chuck in a E30. He was going to do a V8 transplant for me, but then he told me the price and i poo'd in my pants :eek: :D
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Thu May 25, 2006 1:20 pm

bajandaan wrote:
all your suggestions M5pilot are kind of out the window, as for my car feeling fucked, the only thing i agree with you is the brakes, i dont like stiff suspension, and will never take my car on a track, quite happy with the standard suspension it has, and so are most people who have driven my car, but each to there own and you seem to change your mind every time you say something about my car, but who cares :roll:
You took that a little too personally, maybe my words were a little to aggressive. Sorry about that patrick!

When I drove your car at Aces it had hardly any brakes, the exhaust is a little on the moster loud side, the suspension while stock is ok but felt very worn out, steering wheel was bent and car vibrated at speed.

My point was simply, rather than spending money where it doesnt need to be spent you could ideally improve what you have already.

Good luck with sorting your problems.
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Thu May 25, 2006 4:04 pm

I dont take anything personally really, its just describing someones car and putting fucked at the end of the sentence does not sound good to me, but at the end of the day its just a piece of metal that can be fixed and not a human life so its all cool.

At present i have not got that type of money to spend anyway, but if i did and i know this sounds silly, i might do. Looking for mechanics to do jobs on the cheap can sometimes backfire, and then your told well if you got this and that it would have worked and then you end up spending the same amount or more.

Paying someone crazy money to do a job and it all goes belly up, gives you the right to go back and complain and demand, as they told you that at a particular price all your problems will be solved.

But its all cool, this is the zone.
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Thu May 25, 2006 4:13 pm

Once again a Zoner is upset by another Zoner and it all comes down to what i've been saying for ages "Choice of Words" I'm sure Sal didn't mean it the way it sounds, or at least i'd hope doesn't anyway, but the wrong choice of words can end up really upsetting someone, especially when they have a potential huge bil to pay out and dont hae much funds to do so. I think we should all (Me included) just take a pause when we post to make sure we've really written what we meant. I'm not saying people should be pussy footing about the place either, No way, just to be a bit more sensitive with out choice of words that's all winkeye

Bro your engine is s@it so give it to me and i will theorw it away in my engine bay for you :D
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Thu May 25, 2006 4:17 pm

So are you any nearer to finding the leak ?
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Thu May 25, 2006 4:32 pm

yes have found the leak, and my rad bottle needs to be re-positioned, but guess what i have found another leak :D power steering fluid, but this i can do myself, have no knowledge of cars at all, but this looks straight forward, now to take it for a test drive, but being london will wait until later tonight when the roads are clear.

i got a great swap for you booty, my engine for your rieger body kit :) what ya reckon?
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Thu May 25, 2006 4:37 pm

Watch out with the power steering joins, you can't just tighten them up and expect it to stop. You have to fit new crush washers, one use only jobbies.
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Thu May 25, 2006 4:43 pm

now you have scared me :D , think i will take a trip back down to my mechanic and see what he can do, thanks again for the advice, think i need someone from the zone to give me a crash cousre in mechanics, no one would ever believe i was once a mechanic working on Black taxi's (diesel) :D more of a brakes, calipers, and basic service type of guy, im a kwik fit man :D
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Thu May 25, 2006 4:55 pm

There only a couple of pence but it means you have to drain and then refill/bleed the system.
17mm + 19mm spanners and a bucket, job done.
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Thu May 25, 2006 5:03 pm

right i hope i describe this right i have a sphere ball system apparently from an M6 and the fluid controls the steering and the brakes (does this sound right), so is it still as easy as you have just said, someone give me a dunce hat please. :D
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Thu May 25, 2006 5:54 pm

Hi Banjandann,

Overheating- was this caused by the coolant expansion tank not being high enough above the rad top hose ?
Thus causing the car to run very hot, and the coolant hoses to expand and become very rigid.

Locating it up as high as possible in the engine bay, with as level a pipe run to it from the radiator expansion hose, will sort that.

Brake fluid and power steering fluid are not the same, so your leaking power steering problem will have its own resivior.

Your Brake and clutch share the same fluid resivior, on the LHD M3, if I remember correctly.

Where is the power steering leak from ?

If it is from one of the hose unions, you can sometimes just tighten them up a little, but if its a hose, then replacement is needed.
If its the seals on the rack, leaking out around the rubber boots on the steering rack itself, then its rack out job.

Hope this helps.

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Thu May 25, 2006 6:14 pm

Right, lack of knowledge so you have to bare with me on this one Gorilla, right in these pictures below, the bottom right hand corner of both pictures is where the leak is coming from at the top, i believe its coming out of the sphere ball itself, as there is runs of fluid flowing down the sphere ball and more than one, and also there is a little puddle underneath, i defo think this is a job for the mechanic now, everything is going wrong this week :cry: oh well

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Thu May 25, 2006 6:37 pm

The bottom right is your brake fluid, What sphere ?
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Thu May 25, 2006 7:01 pm

i will have to take some more pictures again, where the brake fluid bottle is :D (ha ha, my knowledge sucks) just behind or on top of it is this black ball, that just sits there, oh i give up i will never be able to describe it, will have a look on the net for some pictures, if not i will take my ass down to the garage and snap away, give me five.
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Thu May 25, 2006 7:02 pm

going down to the garage now back in ten :D
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Thu May 25, 2006 7:32 pm

right this is the best i can do, with the pictures. The arrows all point to this black ball that is leaking this red type of fluid :banghead: I am thinking it has something to do with the power steering as when i turn left or right the steering is making a slight noise, that i once had long time ago on my Astra GTE convertible but was a lot louder, and ended up with a new rack, sorry but its the best i can do for now, other than that anyone going to the Ace Cafe on monday bring a torch and i can show it to you properly.

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Thu May 25, 2006 8:13 pm

Hi Banjandann,

I think, very hard to tell from photo, that you are leaking power steering fluid from either your power steering resivior or, what looks like a steering pump ? which makes me think have you an electric power steering pump on this car ?
Noise when turning indicates low fluid in system, keep topping it up, until you rectify the problem.

Looking at your new pictures, you need to have your expansion tank fitted where your washer bottle is and your washer bottle or a replacement that fits, located where your expansion tank is.

It is much to low where it is and will cause major coolant problems and possible hose failures due to hoses splitting under extreme pressure.

Go to www.e30.de, go 335i English version, ignore the M335 and M338 then select item 9.0 Radiator and Coolant system, scroll down to the very bottom and read the last section !!!!!!

Then you will understand what I am ranting on about.

Hope that helps.

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Thu May 25, 2006 9:05 pm

Thanks GermanGorilla,

Just read the document and yes it makes a lot of sense, will get my mechanic on it straight away, or attempt it myself, need to get some tools first though.
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Sun May 28, 2006 9:23 pm

This is not my week at all, sorted the power steering leak, then found out there was brake fluid leaking to 8O, after arranging for my mechanic to move my rad bottle, and after all this, click, click, the starter motor has gone, might need a push home at Ace Cafe tomorrow :) any volunteers, got some good pictures and videos though with wilson325i
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Sun May 28, 2006 11:53 pm

Looks like you can use an M30 starter motor so it shouldn't be to hard or expensive to get a replacment ?

Just a shame i haven't got a spare one :roll:

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Mon May 29, 2006 12:01 pm

Thanks
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