Pirrelli tyres

[sam325is]

Im looking at replacing my **** toyo's with some pirelli p7000 has anyone had any experiences with pirelli tyres? good or bad

Thanks

Sam

[sam325is]

bump tyre suggestions?

[Moz]

Bridgestone Potenz S-02 Pole Position or Yokohama Advan-S

Moz

[Ziggy]

Not tried the p7000, but the p6000 was a complete steaming pile of ****. What's your budget, what size are you after & what are your priorities (wear,noise,wet grip,dry grip etc etc)?

[sam325is]

205/40/17 dont want to spend anyhting ridiculous like £120 a tyre or anything.

noise,wear and wet and dry grip are important. basically an all round tyre.-that does sound like i expect the moon on a stick but its a big market and i barely know where to start.

but i will say no to toyo's due to very poor wear and very poor in the wet

[sam325is]

im thinking maybe continental sport contact 1

[Ziggy]

Goodyear eagle f1s at roughly £90 a tyre too much? BF Goodrich G-force profilers are probably less & I've been impressed with them...

[sam325is]

yea it is a bit expensive.what do you think of the continentals? i cant seem to find the good years for mail order from anywhere except demon tweeks at the price of £125

[Ziggy]

Camskill are a good place to get tyres, but I've not tried any contis in years.

[sam325is]

yea they are quite good. avon zv3's look tempting. what do you think of avon's?

[maxfield]

Toyo T1-S or T1-R.

My dad was quoted £214 for a GSD3 in 22/35/18

[sam325is]

nah toyo's are poor in the wet and they wear really fast maxfield. they are out of this world in the dry hot weather though but lets face it....its barely ever dry or hot here. im using toyo T1-R at the moment.

[maxfield]

That's different.

My dad really rates the Toyo's compared to GSD3's.

[Theo]

The Toyo T1-s is pretty gash, can't comment on the T1-r's because I haven't used them unlike maxfield...

Goodyear eagle f1's get my vote.

[sam325is]

T1-R's are reinforced T1-S iirc

[sam325is]

im going Continental. they seem like good allround tyres. i dont go on tracks so i have no need for anything extreme

[greentouring]

I've got Pirelli P6000s. What do others find wrong with them?

[cefiro_drifta]

P6000's aka widow makers , they great for drifting as they offer no grip at all wet or dry..

michellin pilot premicys are awesome , they last FOREVER and can cope with huge heat

avon zv3's :worthy: :worthy: they are very grippy in the dry and again last for ever


i found wanli's and nankangs last for a very very very long time and offer great grip in the dry but not so much in th wet and they stupidly cheap to which is a plus

toyo's and yokohmas are usually always good in wet or dry

i dont really liek continental sport contact o contact 2's as they dont tend to cope with heat to well and delaminate and wear in big chunks


granted all my experience on tyres have come from drifting so i usually go for the cheaper tyres as they have harder compounds an tend to last longer but i get all my tyres for pretty much free anyway , if a tyre can cope with that sort of punishment and wear well and not delaminate then its gona be great on the road

usually the only tyres i ut on mine for road use are perilli Pzero Rosso's or pilot premecy's as they always great all rounders

hope that helped out

[maxfield]

The Toyo T1-s is pretty gash, can't comment on the T1-r's because I haven't used them unlike maxfield...

Nankangs, stay away from, I think it was Demlot who had a blow out due to a bad tyre?

[sam325is]

i was going to take this guy seriously until he took nankangs seriously

[sam325is]

only joking that advice is great thanks. sounds like you have some serious experience in tyres

[fuzzy]

nah toyo's are poor in the wet and they wear really fast maxfield. they are out of this world in the dry hot weather though but lets face it....its barely ever dry or hot here. im using toyo T1-R at the moment.

exactly my experience of t1-r's which is why ive just switched to dunlop sp9000 to much improved wet weather grip.

[sam325is]

yea i saw your post fuzzy but they are a little expensive i cant seem to find them at the bargain price you got them at.im still thinking continental sport contacts

[cefiro_drifta]

i sold for 6 months in new zealand and been drifting for 10 months so have gone threw my fair share of different makes

if u want a good all round tyre then the conti's if u no drifting ot track use or michellin pilot's

[BMracing]

The latest good year eagle f1s - GSD3 are very good for grip in wet and dry, and good value, ive run those before. Not the most durable but i'd rather have the grip. You cant beat the falken fk 452 for a value, they have amazing grip too. On a budget i'd go for those, eagle f1, toyo t1r (not too good in the wet as someone has said). If money wasnt such an issue pirelli p zero asimmetrico or michelin ps2. Yoko AVS sport have awesome grip in the dry wont last long! Yes the sport contacts are good all round, id avoid any pirellis other than p zeros personally, all crap in my experience.

[sam325is]

so does that mean pirelli p-zero nero's are good?

[BMracing]

I've tried the standard p zero's which was a few years ago and pirelli have changed the design of them since, so should be even better. They are supposedly the best pirelli's apart from the corsa's which are really a semi racing tyre. From what i've heard though the rossos and neros are good. Forgot to mention earlier bridgestone potenza S02 are supposed to be bloody good although i've never tried them myself. Bridgestones are usually quite hard though.

[1an]

my dad has got goodyear eagle venturas on his car and they have lasted quite well, a fair bit of abuse, a trackday, and genral driving, and they grip in the wet and dry.

ive got toyo t1r's on my car and they are awesome in the dry but useless in the wet untill they seem to get a bit warmer then they are alright but not very confidence inspireing.

[Kos]

on what basis do you judge tyres in the wet ??

most people who i know who've used toyo's in the wet recon they are fine, eagal F1 GSD's and bridgstones are pretty good in the wet, but again they are more expensive than toyo's so thats to be expected. more time and money put in to RD

[1an]

on what basis do you judge tyres in the wet ??

most people who i know who've used toyo's in the wet recon they are fine, eagal F1 GSD's and bridgstones are pretty good in the wet, but again they are more expensive than toyo's so thats to be expected. more time and money put in to RD

the fact that when i go into a corner at a normal speed and starts to go loose when my dads car is keeping a dead perfect line and not starting to slide. or when im going up a road in second gear and plant my right foot it spins up, they might be down to having an open diff im not sure but if they are then ill take it back.

[Kos]

on what basis do you judge tyres in the wet ??

most people who i know who've used toyo's in the wet recon they are fine, eagal F1 GSD's and bridgstones are pretty good in the wet, but again they are more expensive than toyo's so thats to be expected. more time and money put in to RD

the fact that when i go into a corner at a normal speed and starts to go loose when my dads car is keeping a dead perfect line and not starting to slide. or when im going up a road in second gear and plant my right foot it spins up, they might be down to having an open diff im not sure but if they are then ill take it back.

2 differnt cars with differnt weights, suspension and difs id not the wat to judge tyres fella

also with an agressive right foot you will get the back end to step out in any e30 in the wet regardless of tyres. thats how accident happen.

so you thought about high speed stabity in the rain, abiltiy to disperse standing water and avoid aquaplaining ?

[1an]

on what basis do you judge tyres in the wet ??

most people who i know who've used toyo's in the wet recon they are fine, eagal F1 GSD's and bridgstones are pretty good in the wet, but again they are more expensive than toyo's so thats to be expected. more time and money put in to RD

the fact that when i go into a corner at a normal speed and starts to go loose when my dads car is keeping a dead perfect line and not starting to slide. or when im going up a road in second gear and plant my right foot it spins up, they might be down to having an open diff im not sure but if they are then ill take it back.

2 differnt cars with differnt weights, suspension and difs id not the wat to judge tyres fella

also with an agressive right foot you will get the back end to step out in any e30 in the wet regardless of tyres. thats how accident happen.

so you thought about high speed stabity in the rain, abiltiy to disperse standing water and avoid aquaplaining ?

what im saying about me having an open diff this may cause the car to start to slide when coming out of a bend in the wet where as if i had an lsd i would have more grip etc.

and both cars are e30's (as you know) both hjave had all their suspension renewed, both are lowerd the same amount only difference beign shocks, so around town they are pretty even without taking the wheels of one car and putting them on another car and testing them back to back.

[Kos]

differnt weight on the front of the car affects it turn in and shock make one HELL of a difference ian and the way and abitlity to "dampen" and controll the car.

if you stamp on the throttle in and LSD equiped car i might kill you, wet or dry condtitions. the back end kick is viscous. my mate can testify to it, and so can i. my 1st tech 1 was killed off like that and i've got a 10" plate and 8 screws in my arm to show it.

even when controled throttle is used the back end can twitch an go with LSD. its bad enough BMW put a warning in the drivers manual

[1an]

not going to get into an arguement about it, but when i was ragging my dads car around the track, and ive driven around the block and 'stampped the loud pedal' it hasnt budged, yes and i agree in the wet any car will go,

but form my experience i dont like the toyos in the wet, once these have worn out and i move over to goodyear eagle f1's ill be able to make a true comment.

[sam325is]

so here i am about to buy my new tyres in a sec. its Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 or Pirelli P-Zero. opinions guys?