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Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:11 pm

bit of a sticky one.. ive got a leak on a motorised valve right next to my heater matrix on the passanger side. its a small motor that sits vertically on top of a black pipe that comes from the engine bay. i managed to pull the valve off to find some sort of rubber diaphram (if thats how you spell it) and its completely shagged, ive looked on gsf and cant find anything, so i was wondering if anyone knows where i can get one from.

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Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:23 pm

Try www.eurocarparts.com

They list 2 types:

212110080 for facelift cars with the plastic pipe £80

212110090 for pre facelift cars with a metal pipe £59.99

Or try your BMW dealer:

WATER VALVE 64111386707 $150.66, same part listed for all years of E30 according to www.realoem.com

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Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:07 pm

thanks mate. do i have to buy the whole valve or can i just get the rubber bit.
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Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:32 pm

mwarrior wrote:thanks mate. do i have to buy the whole valve or can i just get the rubber bit.
Complete new valve I'm afraid.

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Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:34 pm

You dont mean the black rubber O ring do you? :?
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Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:48 pm

The valve should be riveted together. You shouldn't be able to get into the rubber diaphragm!
Get one from a scrapyard for a few pence - avoid any with green stains coming from them!
Also check that your radiator pressure cap has been replaced under the recall from a few years ago.
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:06 pm

i just pulled the valve up and it was on 4 pins, should this have happened.
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mwarrior wrote:i just pulled the valve up and it was on 4 pins, should this have happened.
Nope, the pins are/were rivets. That's why I asked about the pressure cap recall.
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:53 pm

i dont know anything about the pressure cap, how can i tellif its been recalled and if it hasn't then what do i do, ive got a 1991 325i sport if it helps. ive also ordered the valve today it should be here tommorrow so i can fit it next week. one more thing have you ever fitted a valve? thanks by the way your beeing a great help.
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:36 pm

The inside of the pressure cap should have a yellow 'button' inside iirc.

The originals were all black.

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Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:45 pm

What's wrong with the all black cap?

What happens?
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:48 pm

Ah.......... i think mines black. when was the recall and do i need to do something about it.
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:36 pm

All the replacement caps I've seen have had a yellow disc underneath them, but following a thread on here on the subject, it seems there is also a replacement cap around which is black underneath.
The problem with the original cap was that the pressure release valve can jam and over pressurise the system.
I've had one case of a definitely faulty cap, which blew the seal at the end of a radiator, and another that I suspect was faulty, which blew a heater valve apart, just like yours.
The safety recall was because a failure in the heater area can spray superheated water over the occupants legs.
Your dealer can tell you from the VIN if the cap has been replaced, and, if not, should replace it for you FOC.
If it has been replaced there's no guarantee that the replacement cap is still with the car, so ask your dealer if your cap is the newer one.
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:43 pm

mwarrior wrote:. one more thing have you ever fitted a valve? thanks by the way your beeing a great help.
I've fitted a few - it's quite a common failure - often because the heater hoses have been put on the wrong way around.
There's a self tapping screw which is difficult to get at because of the brake mechanism, and two small bolts at the flange joint. Fix the small square nuts in place with a piece of electrical PVC tape around the valve.
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Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:49 pm

got the valve today looks quite easy to change ill have it done sometime tomorrow. i think the leak was caused by a split in the diaphram letting water into the unsealed motor part of the valve, ill ask about the cap, thanks for all your help brianmoooore, ill put another message up tomorrow to tell you how it went.
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