New head lumpy ruff idle

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Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:15 pm

Can anyone help?

Just had the head changed on my 2.5 due to it being cracked,
its all back together now and drives ok, but on idle it chugs and u can smell fuel real bad. it idles at the right speed just very lumpy but as soon as u give it some revs its fine.
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:11 pm

If the ECU has been disconnected from the battery, then it will take 100miles to learn idle settings again.
If this isn't it, try getting it on a gas analyser and setting up the AFM bypass.
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:16 pm

TPS? Also were the clearances on the rockers adjusted?

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Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:44 pm

I would also check the valve clearances first.
Happened on mine.

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Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:15 pm

Yes did valve clearences and also what is AFM bypass
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:27 pm

also when driving if u back right off the throttle you can here it pop and its a bit lumpy at low speeds too.
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:56 pm

And you're 100% that it's timed up right?
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:57 pm

no idear i didnt do it
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:14 pm

i'm pretty sure it's the timing. i have experienced the same problem... when it's idling rough and you stamp on the gas hard can you hear the valves knocking or something like that?
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:32 pm

I didnt think u could alter the timing on an E30
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:33 pm

You can get the timing belt on wrong!
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:34 pm

would it run with the belt in the wrong place
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:47 pm

I'm afraid so...and some of the symptoms you've described would suggest this.

If you're lucky, it'll just be a matter of timing it up.
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:00 pm

right cleaned everything with 2 cans of carb cleaner, still no joy,
spoke to person who did the job and he said he set the rocker gap to 0.20 insted of 0.25
as it was warm when he did it.
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:05 pm

Eh? Should be a greater clearance when the engine is warm, ie 0.3mm.
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:09 pm

??? could this be the problem
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:11 pm

When cold: 0.25mm
When hot: 0.30mm


Hi mate, you got it done then :o
I've got the same thing with mine but it does'nt seem to effect it when i'm drifting :P :wink:
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:52 pm

Hello mate long time no see. still drifting then mate. Mine is bugging the Shit out of me.
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:02 pm

Valve clearances were what I was going to say as well.
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:07 pm

I need to do my valve clearance's, the 2.5 that i put in has had a new/reckon head and they need adjusting now so hopefully that will sort it out, same for you mate :wink:


You'll have to come out Saturday geese, your missing out!! winkeye :wink:
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:11 pm

Will come down dude PM me ya number i will give you a bell.
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:22 pm

the backfire upon configues to me its running rich hence backfiring/burning excess fuel

a guy i sold an engine too had similar idlie problems and it turned out to be valve clearances that were way out. if the car was timed wrong surely it would run a lot worse than on idle and let off

start with simple, basic things first before considering drastic stuff
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Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:24 pm

Nice one mate will check them in the morning
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:15 pm

right adjusterd the tappets its a bit better sort of goes better anyway but still just lumpy at idle makes the whole car shake?????
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:22 pm

My timing belt was out on my e30 and it had some of these issue's listed, I got Stuartgallafant to do my belt and tensioner and it run so much better since, It feels like a different car and more responce
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:26 pm

Might be something as simple as being one tooth out. Not hard to check.
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:59 pm

out with the spanners again tomorrow
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