My 316 touring

Doing a minor build / restoration or an epic one, post it here

Moderator: martauto

Post Reply
User avatar
AndyB
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 62
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:00 pm

Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:20 pm

Hi everyone I thought I would share my journey with you
Last edited by AndyB on Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:55 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Cloggy Saint
Old Skooler
Old Skooler
Posts: 8027
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: zummerzet

Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:28 pm

Pictures aren't working!
Image

E30 zone - promoting adult illiteracy since 2004
User avatar
AndyB
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 62
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:00 pm

Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:29 pm

i realise ill start again !! lol
User avatar
AndyB
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 62
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:00 pm

Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:35 pm

Hi everyone I thought I would share my journey with you
People may or may not be interested but if it helps anyone it's worthwhile

I bought this touring around 3 years ago with M.O.T with intentions of just using it but decided it needed sorting a little

So I put the front up on axle stands to do the holes in the floor
But realised I have opened a world of pain!
IMG_20190929_101608.jpg
IMG_20190929_101559.jpg
IMG_20190929_101550.jpg
IMG_20190929_101543.jpg
IMG_20190929_101537.jpg




Its not brilliant but I have seen worse

Andrew
User avatar
AndyB
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 62
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:00 pm

Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:37 pm

IMG_20190929_101836.jpg
IMG_20190929_101859.jpg
IMG_20190929_150932.jpg
Screenshot_20190924_181436.jpg
User avatar
AndyB
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 62
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:00 pm

Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:39 pm

I have never welded before this project but decide to give it a go!!
Please go easy on me

I think i done a fair job... at least its more solid than it was
IMG_20190929_101519.jpg
IMG_20190929_101506.jpg
User avatar
AndyB
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 62
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:00 pm

Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:40 pm

IMG_20190924_174225.jpg
Bought Lots of new parts to go on but think i jumped the gun a little
User avatar
AndyB
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 62
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:00 pm

Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:45 pm

As you can also see im learning how to create a Thread at the same time
User avatar
iDemonix
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 241
Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:00 pm

Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:18 pm

Hi from FB Andy!

If your car was silver I'd say this thread was a clone of mine! I've finished the O/S footwell, doing the N/S this week, then it's on to under the ABS unit and washer bottle, then sills!

On your floor corners, have you (or are you going to) weld an additional piece for the lower mounting points/holes of the wings?
User avatar
AndyB
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 62
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:00 pm

Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:29 pm

Hey dan!!

Yeh im going to try and recreate all neccessary fixing points for the wings
Also need to fix some little suds that the inner liner fixes too ... them little threaded studs because mine all came off

Like yourself i feel this becoming a long journey
Was hoping to have this on the road by the end of next month so if i want that to be possible i need to get busy!!

Your welds look a lot better than mine im wondering where im going wrong
User avatar
iDemonix
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 241
Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:00 pm

Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:07 pm

I'd say our welds are pretty much the same, yours look smoother in places!

Those studs also crumbled away the second I touched them on mine. I was thinking of drilling a hole, banging a small piece of threaded bar, spot weld to hold it and job done.
User avatar
AndyB
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 62
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:00 pm

Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:31 pm

I did grind them down a lot to make them look something :)
need a bit more practice before outer bodywork

I was thinking maybe get some thin screws then cutting the head off then tacking them on then cutting to length.... maybe that will work
User avatar
iDemonix
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 241
Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:00 pm

Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:08 pm

Something like that, as long as it works! Need to source the little black top hat plastic screws as I've loads that need replacing...
User avatar
AndyB
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 62
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:00 pm

Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:50 pm

just bought those off ebay under 4 quid for 20
I just searched "BMW E30 plastic nuts" funnily enough worked out
User avatar
AndyB
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 62
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:00 pm

Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:21 pm

Just a small update and looking for some advice

Bought Some good second hand panels from Brutus on here ready for when the welding is finished
IMG_20191005_160600.jpg
IMG_20191005_160613.jpg
IMG_20191005_160637.jpg
2 genuine wings in excellent conition also a valance in ecellent condition
Plus a bonus that they are all stone chipped and primered ready for paint

Also got a touring tailgate off of Paul Ivatts ( Not sure of Zone name) Is very good condition with miminal rust in my colour too

Also the advice i need is how do i go about repairing this section?
IMG_20190929_101608.jpg
It seems it will be tricky shaping a peice of steel to suit...Is there a repair panel for this part or will i have to just try and shape it out of flat steel?
If anyone has any pictures of the process it will be greatly appreciated or any advice is welcome

Andy
User avatar
iDemonix
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 241
Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:00 pm

Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:16 pm

Hi Andy,

I did this exact repair patch on mine, on both sides - I just finished the N/S this weekend, and the O/S was the first welding I did to the car a year or so ago. My advice is just keep wire wheeling and then start stabbing with a screwdriver, cut all of it out in as neat, straight lines as you can, then just make patches out of sheet metal. Get the washer bottle removed, headlights, strip that area and see what you're left with.

Image

Image

Not perfect, but it was my first patch and it's held for a year and looks the same as the day I finished it.

Image

Here you can see all the patches/welding I did. After this pic I primered it all again, then some silver metallic aerosol + lacquer, should hopefully last...
User avatar
AndyB
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 62
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:00 pm

Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:08 pm

Hey looks good
Now I have seen how you have broken it down it looks a lot clearer and feel a bit more confident

What seam sealer are you using?
I need to get some really as at the moment I'm just spraying with zinc primer and using 3m underseal spray which I'm concerned hasn't sealed it properly

Thanks
User avatar
iDemonix
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 241
Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:00 pm

Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:45 pm

I'm using U-Pol Tiger Seal on mine. I use weld-through zinc primer when I need to weld in an area again, but once done I spray a couple of layers of epoxy primer, then either silver aerosol + lacquer, or stonechip + waxoyl. No idea if this is the best method, but it's what's working for me.
rix313
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 4966
Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: Silverstone
Contact:

Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:06 pm

iDemonix wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:45 pm
I'm using U-Pol Tiger Seal on mine. I use weld-through zinc primer when I need to weld in an area again, but once done I spray a couple of layers of epoxy primer, then either silver aerosol + lacquer, or stonechip + waxoyl. No idea if this is the best method, but it's what's working for me.
This is great info for me! Thanks :clap:
rix313
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 4966
Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: Silverstone
Contact:

Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:55 pm

Actually my next question is what thickness material did you use for the repairs?
User avatar
iDemonix
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 241
Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:00 pm

Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:59 pm

0.8mm sheet metal and a mix of 0.6mm and 0.8mm wire.
User avatar
AndyB
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 62
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:00 pm

Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:15 pm

I used 1.2 mm for underneath with .8 wire
rix313
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 4966
Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: Silverstone
Contact:

Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:46 pm

Thanks guys. I’ve got some 0.8mm pieces but was recommended 1.2 as well by some one else 😂 I guess I would rather use 1.2 for the strength, see if I can get my hands on some.
Post Reply