E30 M3 number 2. 11/12/18 final prep.

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So after the sale of my old white E30 M3,

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Another E30 M3 needing some love came along.... so i bought it!

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Unfortunately i don't have many pictures of it when first bought but here is one not long after bought and mid way through some work.

A bit more about this particular M3. Like the white one, this is also one of the first 5000 built to homologate the M3 for group A motorsport with this one being an even earlier built car.
Another AK01 (non cat 200bhp car) Built on 14/11/86 in Lachs silver 203 with anthracite "houndstooth" cloth 0211 with the following options.

300 Central locking electric
400 Sliding Sunroof Manual
410 Window Lifts, Electric At Front
428 Warning Triangle Warndreieck
551 On-board Computer 2 With Remote Control
663 Bmw Bavaria C Electronic
681 Roof antenna
800 Air conditioning
979 Velour floot mats

So a bit more optioned up than the white car!

This car however was not an original UK supplied car but more on that later!

The car came into work with a view to being sold by the usual sale or return arrangement at Munich Legends but after being inspected it would have needed at lot of work to get it up to our high standards some of which would have required a high initial investment before it could even be advertised and as the owner wanted a quick sale i made an offer and it got accepted.

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WOW! I'm sure some of you thought that after looking at the last couple of pics and this was one of the more expensive things that would have had to have been sorted before the car was even advertised.
Someone (more on that later!) went to a lot of time money and effort to create this two tone effort and that had to go!
As you can see from the first pic, the car was rolling on a set of racing dynamics - in 15" - which seriously dated the car but in a bad way, another thing which would have needed to have been changed prior to advertising and also not cheap to sort out.
These two things combined with the window tints made up to create a very late 80's/early 90's look now considered distasteful so this had to be sorted ASAP!

Other than the style efforts, the car was very low and stiff which turned out to have BMW motorsport group N bilsteins and unknown progressive rate springs which i estimated to be approx 50-60mm lowered.

Body condition is very good with virtually no rust, the only bits found are some very early stages of where the wheel arch meets the sill and the square factory lifting pads being a bit frilly.
The car has only covered 77k miles from new and a big part in why the mileage is pretty low is due to the fact that it has been dry stored and not been taxed since 1994!!! Unbelievable!

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The story behind the car is that it was taken in payment for a building job and for some reason kept unsold, possibly because no one wanted to buy it looking the way it did?!

So work commenced pretty much straight away and first thing to be tackled was the suspension because it was so stiff and uncomfortable to drive on the road.

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New front brake back plates were bought and those along with the front struts were blasted and power coated satin black.

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Four new Bilstein B8 shocks and eibach pro kit springs (same as what was on the white M3 and my 325i Sport) were ordered up as well as a pair of new wishbones, eccentric wishbone bushes, camber correction top mounts, E46 convertible rear top mounts, Z3 reinforcement plates, front drop links, and a set of new unused eibach adjustable roll bars sourced from Kos were fitted which has transformed the way the car rides and handles compared to what was on before.

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The red dashboard removed and the bulkhead inspected as much as could be with with no signs of rot or dampness. Some rectification work was required to the alarm wiring and a minty mint black dash from Paul Z3I was fitted.

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A set of very nice original heated black leather seats were bought from Paul bmwe30metch and various other interior parts such as door cards, Hifi pack rear blind shelf and consoles from pacerpete plus some new seat belt stalks all made up to create a nice place to be.

Last of all, the 15" racing dynamics needed to go and a few sets of wheels were considered but one set i did want were a set of M3 16" BBS and as luck would have it a fairly tidy set with tyres popped up on the E30zone FB page being sold by Joel so these were snapped up a completed to "back to OEM" look.

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As you can see, it has an Evo 2 front spoiler which it came with and the window tints have since been removed.

So thats where we are at but some digging of the cars history has revealed an interesting past.......
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Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:31 am

I'm not jealous at all. MUCH!

Looks :cool: Barry, good work!
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Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:32 am

Is the original interior going up for sale
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Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:02 am

Removing window tints is a sad job isn't it!! Especially ones that have been on a number of years.

The interior transformation is remarkable, well done. The original interior is equally remarkable, who has that little taste. When that was done, WTF must the trimmer have thought. :eek:
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Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:04 am

But it has to be worth a £1000 to manse73. :)
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Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:26 am

A new years honours list nomination is in order for removing a major amount of chintz from what looks a sound base M3. I'd ditch the steering wheel and private plate too.
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Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:38 am

That interior was terrible! You have transformed it in to a lovely looking car. :D
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Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:01 pm

Have you sold that gash interior to Imy?! :D

Looks lovely. Barry!
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Nice leatherz bruv ! :D
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Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:27 pm

I'm glad you diched the front spoiler,it looked so wrong,lovely job you've done.
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You lucky bastart! :x


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Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:22 pm

Utterly stunning mate, what a difference the wheels and interior make
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Love this!
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Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:42 pm

Thanks for all the comments guys!
Jon_Bmw wrote:Removing window tints is a sad job isn't it!! Especially ones that have been on a number of years.

The interior transformation is remarkable, well done. The original interior is equally remarkable, who has that little taste. When that was done, WTF must the trimmer have thought. :eek:
The valleters at work got that task, took the poor cooonts a whole day to remove, clean the glue residue and polish the glass.

The lurid interior makes up part of the story behind the cars interesting past... more on that later!
BMG wrote:I'd ditch the steering wheel and private plate too.
The steering wheel has been replaced with a 370mm tech 2 and the plate is staying as its been on the car since new and as with the interior, makes up part of the cars interesting history.
ah wrote:I'm glad you diched the front spoiler,it looked so wrong,lovely job you've done.
I'm lost. Which spoiler are you talking about? As the only front spoiler pictured is the Evo 2 chin and the was on there and is staying.
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Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:43 pm

manse73 wrote:Is the original interior going up for sale
It has been sold.
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Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:46 pm

bss325i wrote:
manse73 wrote:Is the original interior going up for sale
It has been sold.
Did Pete sell it to Imy?! :)
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Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:52 pm

Well done. What's the interesting history behind it ??
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manse73 wrote:Is the original interior going up for sale
It has been sold.
Did Pete sell it to Imy?! :)
No, Stevie Wonder bought it....
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kieran325 wrote:Well done. What's the interesting history behind it ??
Thank you. I will write up about that a bit later this eve.
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Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:35 am

Been off road since 94 wow that must be clean underneath, good work on getting it back to how it should be... has totally transformed it.

PS, your old m3 should be with me tomorrow :) got a few jobs to sort on it.
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Great job! Is this a keeper?
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bss325i wrote:
Jon_Bmw wrote:Removing window tints is a sad job isn't it!! Especially ones that have been on a number of years.

The interior transformation is remarkable, well done. The original interior is equally remarkable, who has that little taste. When that was done, WTF must the trimmer have thought. :eek:
The valleters at work got that task, took the poor cooonts a whole day to remove, clean the glue residue and polish the glass.
Window tints aren't that bad to remove. If you use a heat gun to warm up the glass they usually come off clean and leave no glue residue

I had to remove some from a customers car last year, they were the nasty ones which turned purple with age, only took me a couple of hours
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Also always, excellent work Barry! Look forward to hearing the history you've discovered and seeing how this progresses under your stewardship!
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Jon_Bmw wrote:Removing window tints is a sad job isn't it!! Especially ones that have been on a number of years.

The interior transformation is remarkable, well done. The original interior is equally remarkable, who has that little taste. When that was done, WTF must the trimmer have thought. :eek:
The valleters at work got that task, took the poor cooonts a whole day to remove, clean the glue residue and polish the glass.
Window tints aren't that bad to remove. If you use a heat gun to warm up the glass they usually come off clean and leave no glue residue

I had to remove some from a customers car last year, they were the nasty ones which turned purple with age, only took me a couple of hours
I've got this job to do on my E92, best to use the heat gun inside direct on the film I assume?
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Kos wrote:
bss325i wrote:
Jon_Bmw wrote:Removing window tints is a sad job isn't it!! Especially ones that have been on a number of years.

The interior transformation is remarkable, well done. The original interior is equally remarkable, who has that little taste. When that was done, WTF must the trimmer have thought. :eek:
The valleters at work got that task, took the poor cooonts a whole day to remove, clean the glue residue and polish the glass.
Window tints aren't that bad to remove. If you use a heat gun to warm up the glass they usually come off clean and leave no glue residue

I had to remove some from a customers car last year, they were the nasty ones which turned purple with age, only took me a couple of hours
Mate, they used heat gun and that sh it did not want to come off without leaving the glue behind.

It had turned purple and had been on there over 26 years! The rear screen even had two layers!
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Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:09 pm

bss325i wrote:
manse73 wrote:Is the original interior going up for sale
It has been sold.
Shame that. It would have looked well at home in my bruv sport
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Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:14 pm

Whats the story then barry?
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Do you plan on keeping this one Barry?

First dibs if you decide to sell?

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Damn fine looking car, great work :D
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a great looking car obviously in the right hands now
Sambe30 wrote:Whats the story then barry?
maybe he's building up the suspense! Let's try and guess what it is... I'm going for it was previously owned by a celebrity and based on that interior I'll say a footballer! Or is the numberplate a clue?
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Thanks for the comments guys and i have no intention to sell unless a better E30 M3 comes along at the right price.
viz007 wrote:a great looking car obviously in the right hands now
Sambe30 wrote:Whats the story then barry?
maybe he's building up the suspense! Let's try and guess what it is... I'm going for it was previously owned by a celebrity and based on that interior I'll say a footballer!
Haha! There might have been a little bit of that and you are along the right lines. :)

SO, being the inquisitive type i was looking though the history and found an old log book from 1991 with the first and second owners details. The 3 owner from who i got the car from for some reason never registered it in his name when he got it in approx 1995 and the story goes is that he took it in payment for a building job.

I googled the two owners on the log book and the second owner came up as a company director for a couple of companies but nothing significant but when i searched the first owners name, it also came up as a company director and i instantly recognised the the company name... Zeemax.

http://www.zeemax.com/general%20information.htm

The guy who bought the car new was Barry Perman aka mr Zeemax and some of you older guys who were into modding in the 90's may remember Zeemax and after an exchange of emails via the website i got the story on the car up until he sold it in 1991.

He had the car imported by a company in Hayes, West London called Cars international who sourced the car from a German dealer called Kohl who are a multi franchise dealer and is also AC Schnitzer.

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The car was a couple of years old but unsold and unregistered when it was imported and as with the white M3, it was one of the first 5000 built to homologate the M3 for group A motorsport. One can only assume that BMW just built the first 5000 cars within the required 12 months without all of them being ordered and sold so this may go some way to explain why this car was kicking about for a couple of years (and the white one 11 months) before being sold.
I asked Barry Perman about the sale and he just said that it was cheaper and better specced than if he ordered new in the UK and it was then that the car received the reg IIB 95.

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This Porsche was one of Zeemax's creations in the early 90's and note the reg of the car. What relevance the IIB plates has to Zeemax i do not know.

Not long after he bought the car he had the interior done in the burgundy and grey leather which fits if you look at some of Zeemax's work and by sheer coincidence he saw the interior for sale on ebay a few weeks back... what are the chances of that?!

As well as the interior he also fitted the 15" Racing Dynamics wheels and he also had an exhaust made by a "racing company in Milton Keynes. I informed him that it has since been replaced with a standard BMW system to which he replied "I'm not surprised as it was very loud and used to spit flames".

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When i first drove this car i instantly thought "this is quick!" much quicker than any non Evo E30 M3 I've driven and I've driven many through the course of work. The other two people who drove the car at work were also in agreement without being prompted on how quick it was and that always had me intrigued.
When i ended up speaking to Barry and he said it came from AC schnitzer when new i began to put two and two together so i asked he if anything had been done to the engine as the car felt quicker than any non evo i had driven.
His reply was "it had a complete rebuild and was uprated with cams etc by BBR". When i asked why, he said he put it into second gear at 100mph!! 8O

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I contacted them to see if they had any info on the car and sadly the founding partners sold the company in 1999 and the current owners do not have records going back as far as 1989-1991.

http://www.brittainconsulting.net/ken-brittain/

http://davidbrodie.co.uk

I have since contacted both Ken and David but have not heard back from either.

So where does that leave me. I know its not a 2.5 from a simple check but I need to find out whats going on inside the engine so when i get the chance i will be doing a compression test, cylinder leakage test and an oil pressure test to check the health of it. I will then be checking and adjusting the valve clearances so when doing this i will inspect the cams for any identification as to what they may be.
I will also check the part number of the head to see if its an evo or 215 head and i will inspect the top of the pistons with a bore scope to see if these are different from standard.

Before all that I'm going to check the part number of the DME and also pop it open to see if its been chipped. My 325i Sport has a copy of a BBR chip incidentally and i know who has the original.

Once all thats done it will be off to the dyno and if it churns out 220bhp i will be very happy, any more and ill be over the moon!

So thats it, an interesting start to its life which hopefully will transpire to have something a bit tasty inside the engine.
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