E30 M3 minor rust repair (few finished pic's)

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Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:33 pm

vacuum pipe for the fuel pressure reg. coloured red below to make it
a little easier to see........

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So with the plan to rob my vacuum signal at the same point the easiest
way to do it was change the little plastic 90 degree elbow for a "T" piece......

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Fuel pressure reg. gets to keep it's signal and I get my new signal for
the Map sensor, everybody's a winner.......

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Next up on the "shit to do" list was sort out an air temp sensor.
As well as knowing how much air is going into the engine the ecu also
needs to know what temperature the air is. Colder air will need more fuel,
warmer air less, and the spark timing will differ also depending on the air
temperature.
On the original set up on all e30's the air temp sensor is built into the airflow
meter, so unless I rigged up some sort of bluetooth jobbie to help the airflow meter
in the rubbish bin communicate with the ecu something was going to have to change.
Below is the solution..........

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Its a little Bosch air temp sensor. Basically the probe end of the sensor
is fitted sticking out into the incoming air to the engine. The ecu sends down
it's usual 5 volts to the sensor and the voltage travels out into the sensor where
it meets a little variable resistor. This little resistor changes resistance depending
on how hot or cold it gets. Cold air coming into the engine the resistor cools down
and has a high resistance, as a result only a little of that 5 volts makes it through to return
back out the other pin on the sensor and back to the ecu.
Likewise, with warmer air been drawn into the engine the resistor heats up and has
less resistance, as a result a lot more of that 5 volts makes it back up to the ecu.
So now the ecu has an accurate way of measuring the temperature of the incoming air.

With all that said, obviously the sensor needs to be mounted somewhere where it's
measuring the actual air been sucked into the engine, so, a quick rummage around in the
spare parts box came up with a female fitting the same size thread as the sensor.......

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Once the fitting had been filed down to an appropriate size a similar
size hole was cut in the intake snorkel..........

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bit of hammering and liberal quantities of glue.........

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and bingo.......

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The next item on the list was one of the few sensors that survives from the old
set up, the water temperature sensor..........

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Its job and the way it operates is pretty much identical to the air temp sensor.
Two pins on the sensor, 5 volts go in, depending on how hot or cold the water is
that the sensor probe is sitting in a percentage of that 5 volts makes it back up to the ecu.
Again the ecu needs to know how hot or cold the engine is so it can adjust the fuelling
and spark accordingly.
Sensor sits into it's usual place on the water rail (blue sensor) right beside it's neighbour next door
the little brown sensor, which has nothing to do with engine management but instead
just runs the water temp. gauge up on the dash..........

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And finally on to the last of the main ecu inputs, the crankshaft sensor.
All of the sensors fitted up till now have dealt with sending
information to the ecu so it can calculate how much fuel to squirt into the
engine and when it needs to fire the spark. The next input is probably more
important than all of these, as the crankshaft sensor lets the ecu know 3 vital
bit's of information.
Firstly, that the engine is turning over.
It might sound simple but without the signal coming in from the crank sensor the
ecu has no idea the engine is turning over. If it doesn't receive this signal then
the party's over.
Secondly, ecu has to know how quickly the engine is spinning over so it can
figure out how long it has to open the injectors and squirt in the fuel, also
it needs to know when to send the spark. As the rev's start to rise
both the fuel and the spark need to be introduced sooner if that bang is
going to happen while it's still useful. So, second task for the crankshaft sensor
is to send back some info to the ecu and let it know how fast the engine is turning.
Third job, and equally important, is to let the ecu know exactly what position
the engine is at. Not much good the ecu squirting in fuel and lighting the spark
if the piston is only halfway up the cylinder and the resulting bang sends the piston
out through the block.

So, how does the crank sensor do it's business?
Well, the crank sensor is only one half of the solution, the other half being a toothed
wheel as seen below........

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There's two main types of crank sensor a "VR" type and a "Hall" type.
The VR type generally uses two wire's and the Hall type use's three wires.
(I'm going to say I haven't got the time to explain the differences right now,
but we both know the truth is I'm guessing most of this stuff up till now, and I
know that little about these sensors I can't even bullshit my way of this one.)
The one thing thats worth mentioning before we move on is if your switching
over to an aftermarket ecu then it's likely the ecu your going to use will favour
one type or the other. Make sure you get the right one.

The sensor I'm using here is a VR type sensor (Variable Reluctance) and inside it
is a little magnet. Very basically, the sensor has two pins. When you send voltage
in one pin and pass a bit of metal in front of the sensor it does a bit of black magic
and dumps out a little pulse of electricity on the other pin.

So, how the hell does this help the ecu figure out anything?

Well, it we bolt the sensor on to the front of the engine pointing towards the
crankshaft pulley............

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and then attach the little toothed wheel to the crankshaft pulley that will spin right in
front of the sensor.........

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The sensor will "see" the teeth on the toothed wheel and send back a little pulse
of electricity to the ecu every time a tooth passes it. If the pulley has 36 teeth equally
spaced out on the wheel and we tell the ecu that a full turn of the engine is 36 teeth
then the ecu can now count the teeth/pulses and figure out how many rev's the engine is doing.

So now the ecu has a way of telling the engine is spinning over and figuring out what
speed it's running at, the final thing it needs to know is what position the crankshaft is
at so it can squirt and spark at the right time. The way this is done is by removing one
of the teeth on the toothed wheel, and if you look at that first picture above showing the
toothed wheel you'll see theres only 35 teeth and a gap where the 36th one should be.

Why the hell is there a missing tooth? Did you keep the receipt? Cancel the Paypal quick.

The reason one of the teeth is missing is so the ecu can figure out what position the engine is at.
When the toothed wheel is fitted to the crankshaft pulley we measure up when the next tooth
after the missing tooth will pass the crankshaft sensor.
In the case of this engine the next one after the missing tooth passes the sensor at 90 degrees before the
engine reaches top dead centre (TDC).
So we then tell the ecu when you spot the missing tooth/pulse the next tooth
you see is at 90 degress BTDC. With this knowledge the ecu can now figure out exactly what position
the engine is at because it knows theres 36 teeth equally spaced out (35 + 1 missing one) so each time it
reads a tooth pulse it knows the engine has rotated 10 degrees (360 degrees divided by 36 equals 10 degrees).
With these two bits of information the ecu can now pinpoint any degree it likes to inject the fuel and
fire the spark.

The toothed wheel you see in the pictures and the little bracket for holding the sensor were sourced
from here: http://www.massivebrakes.com/accessories.php
And the sensor I've used is a "Standard Pc 19" which can be found through a Google search.

(Probably worth mentioning at this stage that the standard S14 engine management uses
crankshaft sensors too, but it's an odd set up which uses two sensors to do the same
job described above and isn't compatible with a lot of aftermarket ecu's including mine,
hence the reason I've gone with the above.)

And a picture of the final setup on my engine.........

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And that ladies and gentlemen brings us to the end of the first instalment of
this update. With all the main ecu inputs sorted next up we'll delve into
the coma inducing world of the ecu outputs, ignition coils and injectors.
Talk to you all again in a few years time.

Till then...........
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Before we kick off this update it's probably worth mentioning that I've had a very
polite e-mail informing me that I've somehow managed to make a complete balls up
of explaining how a VR cranksensor actually works in the last update.
So, I've taken the time to do some intensive research into the workings of a VR sensor
and get a better understanding of it, so that I might be able to pass the knowledge on.

The VR sensor works by................................... nah, still can't figure it out.

Moving on..............

With all the main inputs taken care of, the ecu can now get it's arse in gear and
start to earn it's living. Once it's checked over the incoming sensor info it
can then decide how much fuel to squirt in and when to fire the spark.

First up for us is the spark.

With the standard management system there's quite a few components involved
in the job of getting the spark created, and then, carrying it down to the sparkplug
to set off the bang.
First up, the standard ignition coil......

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The coil is fed a constant 12 volts once the ignition is switched on and
then the ecu switches the coils earth wire on and off to create a nice fat whack of voltage.
Once the ecu has trigged the coil the high voltage travels out and into the high tension lead.........

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Which carries it all the way up the the distributor cap, whereupon it enters through the bottom
port..........

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Once at the distributor cap the voltage travels inside and passes
over onto the centre of the spinning rotor arm............

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As the rotor arm is bolted onto the end of the camshaft it's spinning around
with the engine. And once the tip of the rotor arm lines up with one of the
brass poles on the inside of the distributor cap the voltage takes a leap
and is off on it's way again.........

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After jumping to the brass pole it's off out to that cylinders HT lead.......

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(picture borrowed from Google)

And finally after travelling down the HT lead it reaches the sparkplug,
where upon it completes it's journey by jumping to the earth probe of the sparkplug
and the resulting spark lights the booom.......

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I know, I know, pure Einstein stuff, but bare with me.
All of this works perfect on a standard engine, and, even a highly
modified one if the truth be told.
So, as you'd expect, I've gone an fu*ked with it.

What you see below is what's sometimes referred to as a "wasted spark"
coil........

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As the new Dta ecu now fitted to the car gives me the option to use one
of these I'm going to run with it.
Probably worth a few words on how it works before explaining why I've chosen
to go this route.
The coil shown above while looking like one chunky fat unit is
actually two separate coils moulded into one unit.........

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The ecu can either trigger a spark from the red coil or the green coil.
As you can see in the pic above each half of the coil has two connections
for HT leads. The leads for cylinder 1 and 4 are connected into the green
half and cylinders 2 and 3 into the red half......

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When a spark is required in cylinder 1 the ecu fires the green half of the coil
and the two leads plugged into this half both get the large whack of voltage.
The result is both the sparkplugs in cylinder 1 and 4 fire at the same time.
The spark for cylinder 1 arrives and sets off the ignition of the compressed
fuel and air in this cylinder, while further down the block the spark also
arrives in cylinder 4. However as this cylinder is just pumping out burnt exhaust
gases at the moment when the spark goes off it does nothing.

This is the same process every time a spark is needed. The ecu will trigger
whichever half of the coil that sends the voltage to the sparkplug that needs it,
and, it will always travel down the other HT lead connected to this half of the
coil aswell. The voltage that travels down the other lead will always create a spark
in a cylinder thats pumping out exhaust gases and as such will be wasted.
Hence the nick name for this type of ignition system, "wasted spark".

So, thats how I think it works, as always xworks enterprises can not be held responsible for early
life termination as a result of this explanation, all contracts are binding, the price of your shares
can go up as well as down, blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada.........

Next logical question would be, why am I choosing to fu*k with an ignition system that works
perfectly well.
And the answer is simple, or to be more accurate, simplify.
With the wasted spark set up shown above all you have is the coil, three wires running to it
from the ecu which power it up and trigger coil A or B, and then a few HT leads to carry
the high voltage down to the spark plugs. And thats it, thats the sub total of our new ignition system.
With the addition of one simple self contained wasted spark coil we've managed to dump the distributor,
the distributor cap and the rotor arm, all of which can be a source of frustrating ignition problems as they age.

And that, in a nutshell, is the reason for going the wasted spark route. No performance advantage, just plain
old reliability.

With all that said, it's almost certain now that this new coil will somehow manage to short out and set the car on fire
just to keep Murphy's Law alive and well.

More pic's, less bull. Here how it all got nailed together.

With the distributor deleted this left the small problem of a gaping hole in the end of the cam box.
Step forward one distributor blanking plate supplied by Massive (link to website earlier in thread)..........

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And bolt it on to cover the hole where the distributor used to be........

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There is one other slight change which can be noticed in the picture above
and thats the three little studs that used to hold on the distributor and now
hold on the cover plate. They've been replaced with slightly longer studs.
The reason being they've another job to do as well.
Cardboard template............

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transferred to aluminium.........

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weldy, weldy......

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and bolt her up..........

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and bingo, we now have somewhere for our new coil to mount........

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If I'm to be honest, this took a bit of smoke between the ears to figure out
as the coil needed to be in just the right place for one simple reason...........

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I wanted to be able to use the standard HT leads without having to
get a custom length set made up..........

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Thats not to say the standard leads were a straight forward fit with the new coil,
obviously there'd be no fu*king fun it things went that simple. A little problem
had to be taken care of before they sat into place. Each lead was removed from the
carrier tube............

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And a small section of the insulation rubber on the coil end connector had to
be removed..........

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with a very sharp knife...........

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To say I was a little nervous doing this would be an understatement.
These leads cost a bloody fortune, and probably the best way of describing
the tense nature of the moment would be to imagine yourself removing
one of these from your person........

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with one one these........

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Many cautious hours later..........

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And now with that little bit of insulation removed from each lead all four
could comfortably fit in place on the coil..........

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bit of rerouteing of the leads back into their tube...........

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and thats the ignition side of things sorted.........

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Next up will be the fuelling.
Till then...........
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OK I'm a little lost now but it all looks lovely and shiny. :mad:

Epic read. 8)
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Have you cut any corners then?

(Well apart from the air filter!)
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Spent the best part of my day at work reading through this....time well spent in all honesty :)

Would love to be able to do something like this but would never have the time nor patience :(

Thank you for the truly epic read and cant wait for more updates!
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FEP wrote:Have you cut any corners then?

(Well apart from the air filter!)
just the tips been cut off with the blade when removing the sheath :D
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:04 am

I Dont even own a Bmw E30!! but have grown up around them all my life thanks to my dad who has bought nothing other then bmw's!! his best cars till this day in his life that hes owned was his 645ci and his E30 325I! which were imacculate!!! even to your standards!!

I joined this site due to my friend Envision whos just purchased an E30 and looking to restore it!! and was amazed by this thread!! would like to see photos of this car in and out completed!! from what i can see it made the website logo!!! Immaculate!!!!!!!!!

Maybe a video of it running and purring please!!!! lol
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:20 pm

Have had a look over it at 2x shows recently and she's even better in the flesh! Judging by the roar at both shows after he left he still drives her on :D I can stick up a few pics if it's ok with xworks.
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:25 pm

Gutted i missed seeing her at the classic show.
I left straight after the prize giving, he must have arrived soon after.
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:45 pm

Apologies gentlemen for the lack of updates. Decided I wasn't going to miss another summer
stuck fu*king about in the garage, so, got the finger out and managed to reach the finish post.
The plan is to stay away from the internet porn and get the last of the updates written up
shortly, hope to have something up by the end of the week.
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First part of the fuel system overhaul started many, many moon's ago
in a galaxy far, far away. The old fuel tank was kaput. She had started to
rust at the seams and once the rust gets in here theres not many viable options
to repair.
So, new tank.......

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and a fresh "in tank" lift pump to replace the old unit..........

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The "in-tank" fuel pump shown above has one sole purpose and thats
to suck fuel out of the tank and pump it to the main high pressure fuel
pump shown below.........

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Also included in the pic above is the fuel filter below the high pressure pump.
I think early cars had the filter mounted along side the high pressure pump like
shown above whereas later cars had the filter mounted separately up in the
engine bay.
As always seems to be the case, just after I'd coughed up the ransom
to replace the pair of fuel pumps I came across a forum thread detailing
how to junk the 2 pump setup and replace it with a single "in-tank" high
pressure pump instead, which works out a damn sight cheaper.

Fu*king forums.

With the new pumps in place all the associated plumbing was freshened up aswell.
Actually, was a little frightening to see the condition some of the old fuel hoses
were in. Do yourself a favour, if your driving a twenty year old car and don't
know when the fuel hoses were last changed, put it on the top of the
"Shit to do" list. Unless your Michael J. Fox and driving a DeLorean
then flames don't look so good coming out from underneath a moving car.........

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So, pumps and hoses in, the fuel can now get from the tank all the way up
to the engine bay where upon it fills this little item.......

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Which is of course the fuel rail. When the engine is up and running the ecu opens
the injectors for a preprogrammed amount of time to squirt in just the right amount of
fuel thats needed. For this to work then the fuel present in the fuel rail has to be at a constant
pressure. For this engine that pressure is 3 bar. The ecu has no way of watching the fuel pressure
and will always presume the fuel pressure is 3 bar. If for some reason something went tits up and
the fuel pressure went higher than this in the rail, then the ecu still opens the injectors the same
length of time and more fuel will get squirted in leading to the engine running rich.
Likewise if the pressure dropped in the rail less fuel would be squirted in running the engine lean.

So, how the hell do we keep fuel at the right pressure in the fuel rail?
Well, it's all done by this little lad bolted on to the end of the fuel rail,
surprisingly known as the fuel pressure regulator.........

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It's not a terribly complicated device and if your not familiar with the workings of one
then probably the best way of describing how it works is comparing it to placing your
finger over the end of a garden hose. When you block the water coming out of the hose the
pressure builds, let your finger off a little and some water squirts out and the pressure
drops off in the hose. The regulator shown above does basically the same thing.
The fuel pump pumps the fuel up to the fuel rail, fills the rail and try's to flow out the end of the
fuel rail where it meets the regulator. Inside the regulator there's a little valve held shut with a
spring. Once the fuel pressure builds up enough force to push the spring back the valve opens
and lets some fuel return back to the fuel tank. In this regulator the spring is just the
right tension to keep the fuel rail pressurised at 3 bar all the time and it's constantly open
to some degree returning fuel to the petrol tank.

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Next up is the injectors.
As you may have seen previously during the build theres been a few mods done to the
engine to improve it's breathing capability with a view to finding some extra horse power.
And as the engine should hopefully now be fit to take in more air we're going to have to
mix some more fuel with this to find the extra bhp.
Unfortunately the standard injectors weren't going to be up to the task for this engine.
As mentioned earlier the Ecu opens and closes the injectors to allow the fuel to be squirted
into the engine. As the revs start to rise the amount of time the ecu has available to
open and close the injectors to get the fuel in before those inlet valves close and combustion starts
is getting smaller and smaller. With the increased amount of air now coming into this engine at high revs
the ecu simply hasn't enough time to keep the injectors open long enough to get enough fuel in.
So, the solution?
Larger injectors.
Bellow you can see a picture of the old standard injector and on the right the new
larger cc injectors I've bought............

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Theres an absolute ton of waffle that can be written about selecting which
injectors for your engine and I'm not going to go in to the details of how I
came to my choice here, cause to be perfectly honest I think I just got
pissed off reading about them in the end and picked these.

If your in a similar position down the line then some things worth reading up
on are:

injector resistance - injectors are basically split into two different groups,
high resistance and low resistance. The standard M3 injectors are low resistance
and most after market ecu's prefer high resistance. Fitting low resistance injectors
to an aftermarket ecu that needs high resistance one's can end up melting the ecu.

injector cc/min - injectors are usually listed for the amount of fuel they can flow
per minute at a given pressure. Usually you'll see them listed in cc/min (cubic centimeters per minute)
or lbs/hr (pounds per hour).
A standard 195bhp M3 injector flows 236cc of fuel per minute at 3 bar fuel pressure.
The new ones I've bought pictured above and below flow 370cc per minute at 3bar.

injector body - a quick search around the interweb will show that injectors come in all different shapes
and sizes. The standard injectors in an M3 are usually referred to as a Bosch EV1 style.
As I wanted the new injectors to be a straight forward fit with the fuel rail and the electrical connector
rail I've choose to stick with the EV1 style body.

More details of the actual injectors I ended up buying can be found here.........
http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/380cc-36 ... import-fit
(just remember, they're high resistance injectors and unsuitable for the standard ecu).

One last vital modification to the injectors before they can be fitted was to paint em red.
This mod alone will add up 40 horse power and improve fuel economy,
remember where you heard it first...........

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Now that everything was in place the next stage could begin, wiring things up
while holding a fire extinguisher.
Will try and have it up by the end of the week.

Till then.......
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AWESOME, better get the red paint out for my injectors winkeye
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8O epic.

but very :cool:
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:43 pm

x-works wrote:
One last vital modification to the injectors before they can be fitted was to paint em red.
This mod alone will add up 40 horse power and improve fuel economy,
I've heard that blue injectors give 1.1% more power and that blue paint is lighter. Something about the colour frequencies at high speed.
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next up was the little cover that runs over the fuel tank breather pipes
in the arch and if the other parts of the shell had caught the pox this bit had
contracted the plague. Heres what it should look like.....

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Does any one happen to know the part number for this cover? i need one mine also has the plage!
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kman82 wrote:part 14 here i think mate...

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do ... g=16&fg=10
Thanks kman you have really helped me out!
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:15 pm

I hope this thread hasn't been abandoned! Its taken me 2 days to read through it all...
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:06 pm

It hasn't, I hope to wrap it up soon.
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Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:57 pm

Excellent news! I'm sure the Nigerian Prince will be pleased to finally get his car.
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Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:56 am

Appoligies for the few decades that were allowed to pass since the last update.
In my defence I've plenty of excuses, a computer anti-virus program that finally scumbed
to the continous onslaught of various adult content websites resulting in a dead pc,
a broadband connection that's gone so slow it struggles to upload so much as a f**kin smiley face Image
and my own low I.Q. which has me struggling to come to terms with Windows 7 on this new Pc.

However,
if the truth be told,
the real reason there hasn't been an update in so long is very simple.

The car is finished.

Sorry, waited a long time to type that, so, if you'll indulge me I'd just like to do it again......

THE CAR IS FINISHED.

As I sit here typing the car sits outside in the driveway and has been back in active service now
for the last 5 months, during which time I've managed to rack up a grand total of 8560km.
Nothing major has fallen off it, there have been no explosions, I've managed to keep her between
the ditches so far, and, I've even managed to give her a few battle scars.

The plan for the build thread was always to try and write it as I went along, but,
(and apologies for this to those following the story) the plan, and pretty much everything else,
went out the window in the final push to get the car over the finish line.

So, now that things have settled down a bit and theres some free time again it's time to dig out
the last of the pictures and finish the story off.

Before the break we were trying to get all the components in place for the engine management
before the process of wiring it all up could begin. With most of this stuff fitted there was only a
few bits left to bolt into place.
First of these was the idle control valve.......

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The valve pictured above is the standard M3 idle control valve. As you can see from the picture
of it's electrical connection, it's a 3 wire valve. Unfortunately the DTA S40 ecu I've choose
to use will only run a 2 wire valve, so after a long search for a suitable 2 wire valve the one
pictured below was selected as a replacement........

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It's from a VR6 Volkswagen Golf and it's Bosch part number is 0280 140 512. Although the VR6
has a slightly larger displacement engine than the M3 (2800cc versus 2300cc) the idle control valve
should still work fine. The nice thing about the VR6 valve is it's inlet and outlet port sizes are very
close to that of the M3's valve, allowing the original pipework to be reused.
The new valve was mounted in the same position as the old one after making up a bracket
and using the VW's rubber mount........

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Once in place the pipework could be fitted to plum the valve in...........

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Before we move on to it's operation it's probably work taking a second to mention it's not 100%
necessary to run an idle control valve as most aftermarket ECU's can retain a good idle by
manipulating the fuel and ignition settings while the engine's running. But having done a little
research it certainly seems having an idle control valve may add a little more refinment to idle
control especially when the engine is being used in a day to day road car as opposed to an out
an out competition car. Some good info here
http://www.s14.net/forums/showthread.ph ... +valvehttp://

So, on to how it actually works, or more acurately, how I think it works, which as you are most
probably aware by now is, if nothing else, usually worth a laugh for how arseways I manage to grasp it.

Foot off the throttle, all throttle butterflies are practically closed blocking any air from coming
into the engine, so how the hell does the engine stay ticking over without any air coming in?
The answer is it sneaks in via the idle control valve.

In the picture below you can see the pipework attached to the ICV (idle control valve).
The big red arrow shows where the air comes in as this end of the pipe is connected to the air
box with a large supply of incoming air............

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following the green arrows in the pic above, the air travels down into the ICV which to put
it very simply is just an electrically controlled tap. The ecu opens and closes this "tap" rapidly
to allow the air to progress through it. The longer the tap is open the more air that can pass
through it. You can get a picture of how rapidy this openning and closing takes place by listening
to the buzzing sound a working ICV makes. The air thats allowed to pass through the valve
continues on to the outlet pipe, which can be just about seen in the pic above.

The air travels up this pipe which passes between throttle body 1 and 2, and takes a 90 degree
turn to feed into a small valve sandwiched between the throttle bodies........

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This small valve (coloured yellow below) serves two purposes. The first, which we're dealing
with here, is to route the incoming air from the ICV into the engine. The air coming up from
the ICV on the pipe we've just followed enters into the valve by the port arrowed below........

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Once inside the valve it's route is fairly straight forward, the incoming air flows down into the
valve and splits up allowing it to flow out both outlet ports......

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The air then flows out these outlet ports into "tunnels" cast into the top of each throttle body..........

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The air flows along these tunnels and drops down into the throttle body by way of small
drillings in the roof of each individual throttle body.........

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As this drilling is on the engine side of that closed throttle butterfly, the ecu now has a way
of supplying air to the engine (and hence controlling the idle) while the throttle butterflies are shut..........

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As if that wasn't complicated enough theres also another bit of idle circuit pipework thats
worth mentioning. This route is the "idle control bypass" circuit and looking at the red route
in the picture below should hopefully help show where it's name comes from..........

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This red pipe also feeds air up to that yellow valve between the throttle bodies, only differance
being it enters through a different port on the underside of the valve. And, as can hopefully be seen
in the pic's below, how much air that flows into the engine this route is controlled by a big brass screw..........

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I've done quite a bit of searching on this whole set up and I've struggled to find much in the way
of an explanation of how it all works. So, if you can keep a secret, I've just made the following up.
With the engine running and your foot taken off the loud pedal the throttle is shut and the
engine starts to tick over. The engine of coarse still needs air coming in to allow it to tick over,
so, the majority of this air needed comes in along the red pipe, bypassing the idle control valve,
and heads straight into the engine.
The reason all the air needed to idle doesn't come in this way is because the ecu needs to
have some control over the idle speed to raise or lower it as it see's fit. So the amount of
air coming in this route is limited by that big brass screw.

The rest of the air needed for a stable idle is supplied via the green pipework. This is the air
that has to pass through the idle control valve, and, as such, the ecu can directly control how
much comes in this route. More air in, higher idle speed (cold starting), less air in,
lower idle speed (engine up to temp, doesn't need as much air/fuel to tick over).

Right gotta move on, the bullshit quota for this page has well and truely been exceeded.

Next item to get nailed in was a wideband lambda sensor...........

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Shown in the pic above is the sensor itself, the wiring loom and the little red box is
the lambda sensor controller. Again this is not something thats critical to run the engine,
but it's something I'd decided early on I wanted to include in the management system.

The basic function of the lambda sensor is to send back some information to the ecu on how
rich or lean the exhaust gases are, and then having recieved this information the ecu can
adjust how much fuel is being injected. This whole circus is commonly refered to as "closed loop",
as the lambda sensor is always sending info back info and the ecu is always fine tuning the fuel going in.........

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More or less every mass produced pertol engined car on the market today has a lambda sensor
hammered into the exhaust to keep the fueling perfect and the one small differance between
the sensor they use and the one I'm using above is the range they can read.
Almost every mass produced car engine nowadays run a narrow band lambda sensor.
The reason they're termed "narrow band" is these type of sensors can only read exhaust
gases that are very slightly rich or very slightly lean. They have a narrow range of measurement.
However they work just fine in their enviroment as thanks to the hundreds upon hundreds of
hours that go into programming the fuel and ignition maps in modern ecu's the exhaust gases
rarely stray to far off what they should be and hence the narrow band sensor can read
these little fluctuations just fine.

As the brand spanking new ecu I'm using is totally empty when it comes to fuel or
ignition maps then I'll be starting from a blank sheet. The air/fuel ratio's are most likely
going to be a little all over the place till we can fine tune what works best for producing the
most power. We'll also most likely end up having some areas of the rev range running rich
to produce optimum power at the expence of fuel consumption and emisions. For this reason
the wide band sensor shown above with it's greater range to read both rich and leans
mixtures is much more suitable.

The final little note about the sensor above is the little red controller box that comes with it.
Some top end, top dollar, aftermarket ecus will allow you to wire the lambda sensor
straight into the ecu and the expensive electronic wizardry inside will be able to make
sense of the small voltage signals coming in. However most ecu's will need a little controller
box like the one shown above between the sensor and the ecu to take in the small voltages
from the sensor and convert them to a nice linear 0 to 5 volt signal that the ecu can understand.

Final item to get bolted in was the Ecu itself...........

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I decided that the best place for this to sit was where Bmw had decided to bolt the original ecu.........

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So using the original ecu as a guide a template was made..........

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Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:19 am

Which was then transferred to a piece of aluminium........

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which the new ecu and lambda controller could be nailed too......

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bolt her in and bingo, all the engine management components were now in place.........

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But, before the wiring could begin there was another few items to get fitted,
as, although they weren't going to help run the engine their wiring was
going to be included in the engine harness.

First up is an oil pressure gauge and sensor............

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Took me a while to track this baby down, but I'm glad I persevered.
It's a digital oil pressure gauge made by a crowd called Auber Instrements.
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_ ... ucts_id=19

It displays the engine oil pressure in psi and has a built in relay that
allows you to wire up the low oil warning light on the dash so you
can trigger it at a pressure of your choice.
The second part is kinda handy as the standard low oil warning light
on the M3 lazily illuminates around 6 or 7 psi just in time to inform you
your engine is toast, whereas with this new gauge set up we can trigger
the low oil pressure light at around 25psi to give you a heads up
all might not be well down below in the steam room........

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The second item is a beautifuly made Lambda gauge crafted
and supplied by George Graves,
http://www.s14.net/forums/showthread.ph ... Last-Batch

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The wide band lambda sensor shown earlier will supply a signal
to this gauge as well as into the ecu.This hopefully should help me
to keep an eye on the air/fuel ratio's and warn if the engine is
running overly rich, or more dangerously, overly lean, which will
be very handy to know especially in the early days of mapping
and running the new ecu.
The sweetest part of the gauge for me is it's all constructed inside a
standard e30 dash switch which should help keep a slightly lower
profile than some other gauges...........

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Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:24 am

The actual fitting of the gauges was fairly straight forward..........

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the oil pressure gauge just needing the dash hole to be slightly
massaged to allow it to fit in snug..........

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the lambda gauge being even more straight forward,
just clicked into place.......

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Thats it for now, more as the week goes on.
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