Worlds longest Resto, my C2 2.7 19/3/18 Vent guage action

[d6dph]

Coolio Si, I have a certain machine and software in my possession now too.

[Simon13]

pukka! will chat Monday bert.

[Dan318-is]

Looks like loads of fun si, wish i still lived down in woking, would love to help on a project like this! Glad you chose those billies/cup kit spring set up, your pretty lucky having cup kit springs on their own! Good choice.

Am going to have a spare set of alloy wishbones soon bert, will ring you tomorrow!

[oguz327]

Looks wicked Simon

[B7]

Looks ace Si. Reminds me of when I did mine.



Looking to strip mine again this winter to fit Bazza's genuine tech 2 springs if I ever get f*ckin time!!!

[Onz]

Good going Si, I look forward to seeing it when its done.

Out of interest, where did u find the C2 2.7 badges? I am looking for a set and cant find them anywhere!

[hubble]

Simon. Looking good. Keep up the good work.

[Simon13]

Onz mine are from Alpina via the bmw main dealer and are not cheap! Not long until paintshop.......

[SPADGE]

Looking good thus far Simon

Talking of badges i called Sytners yesterday to enquire about the C2.5 badges for the front and rear of mine and they are 75 quid each 75 quid for a tiny piece of plastic what a fuggin rip off

[Andyboy]

Welcome to the world of Alpina!

Ask them for a cam for a C2 2.7 and they'll tell you it's NLA. But they will suggest a B3 2.7 cam which comes from the catalyst version for just £700. Shame it's a standard 325i cam with same part numbers and a 100% markup - robbing feckers.


Simon - Alpina Blue.

Just do as you're told.

BTW I'd be happy to do a valuation for the insurance when you've finished it. That's gonna be a £10'000 car.

[Hyperion]

I just wanted to say you are doing an awesome job here and the car is gonna look amazing.
PS: i would have gone for the gold wheels and stickers... but that just me...

[SPADGE]

Welcome to the world of Alpina!

Ask them for a cam for a C2 2.7 and they'll tell you it's NLA. But they will suggest a B3 2.7 cam which comes from the catalyst version for just £700. Shame it's a standard 325i cam with same part numbers and a 100% markup - robbing feckers.


Simon - Alpina Blue.

Just do as you're told.

BTW I'd be happy to do a valuation for the insurance when you've finished it. That's gonna be a £10'000 car.

And now they want £100 for an un-stamped plaque
Think i'll pass robbing barstewards

[Taz]

awesome project

[Simon13]

spadge i'll see if i can sort something out with a bit of discount, wont be alot but every bit helps? I haven't been upto much as i've been working flat out getting another wad of cash to throw at the old girl.

Cheers guys spurs me on!

[spook]

just think of your car simon when you wake up early for work and see that bloody frost on the ground, should get you out the house and on the trowel, crack on mate

[Simon13]

Ah a picture fest people! I've stripped the engine down last week to the bare bones. So we can lay all the gossip about it knocking and all the other sh!te people thought was going on from it when it was running!





in all her glory! no btb wrongness here. Draining the oil out was interesting as it was very black and horrible and full of bits!





Head off and my spare alpina pistons seem to fit nicely too


pistons coming out


Nice bit of scoring best picture i can do!

Now this engine had only done 300 or so miles on it since it had been "rebuilt". It was rebuilt because it smoked badly so the story goes. And when it was stripped piston no.5 had different rings to the other 5 is what they found. They also said on the reciept i have that this piston was heavily scored. To me it doesn't look any worse than the other 5. The bores were glaze busted which seems true. The honing marks are still there and the bores feel and look ok.



looking at the big end shells or the state they are in after 3500miles use, they are all scored and pitted.

But the big ends on the crank seem fine. So off with the main end caps.......



Main end bolt, all gunked up with rank old burnt oil.




Utterly fubared




As you can see it got alot worse, the pictures aren't quite clear enough of the crank but it's all covered in swarf on all the journals, so the crank will need a regrind on the main ends aleast! 1 journal feels particulary sp bad

None of the shells had spun which seems lucky looking at it as the engine had low oil pressure aswell when it was running

Luckily i have a spare 324d crank which doesn't need a regrind.

I haven't stripped the head but i'm expecting it's a similar story.

[Simon13]

Ah the bodyshop i hear you cry? well i am after 2months or more of waiting for it to go in. So i've lost my patience with them and boll0cks to it. So it's going to barrys place instead now. Just sorting out what i'd like to get done and the price first, I wanted it painted before the year as this has always been my goal for this year, but it's not going to be now. Never mind eh?

[bmwe30mtech]

Fantastic job Si, glad you finally pulled the engine to bits. Im impressed by how thourgh the whole job is.

Look forward to more updates. You still working down the road by the way? Not seen your car..

[bss325i]

That looks an oily mess, nice black gunge! Hope i dont find that when i strip my 2.7 down!
Still, you'll have a fresh new engine for the fresh new shell!

[Dan318-is]

Who rebuilt that engine then simon do you know? Truley shocking workmanship, it doesnt take much does it; i mean its hardly a monsterously expensive, over complex engine. Fu*king monkeys. Non the less on and up! Decided the colour yet?

[Andyboy]

I would take the block to an engine specialist and get the bores measured with an internal micrometer - they could be tapered all to hell and oval. Also get the main bearing housings mic'ed as well as they may well be slightly out of round. Judging by the state of the crank (which could be bent) I'd be looking for a virginal 325i block to start again with. At the very least you'll need to punch the oil gallery plugs out and get the oilways cleaned out because they will be full of crap. Throw the oil cooler away as well, that's now full of swarfy oil..
When I did Adams 2.8 engine, I did this and refitted the mains shells upside down to block the oilways and used a steam cleaner to really blast all the shyte out. Your engine has got very, very hot at some point as if the crank has been binding. It's certainly cooked the oil.
For what a decent block is going to cost, I'd start with a block with no issues. You can always re-stamp the engine number.

[Andyboy]

Decided the colour yet?

Yes. Alpina blue.



















Right, Helmet??

[oakey]

Simon. Are you building the engine to standard spec or is there gonna be a few tweaks?

[Simon13]

I need to clean it all up and get it off to my old mans workshop and get the micrometer out agreed. As said i've got agood crank and pistons spare and a 2.0 block. I had a good 2.5 block from my auto, and sent it down the scrap yard another bad by me along with the un rusty dented fuel tank and pump I keep kicking myself over that one!

Colour's staying Diamond!

Engine nothing too hairy will be close to alpina spec for me. I'm amazed this engine made 190bhp/190lbs on Dave Walkers rollers as even the rotor was f**ked out of it's brains it had air leaks, none functioning throttle position switch and champion spark plugs to top it off.

[Gwynleym10]

Excellent work Si - How many hours have you spent on it so far?

[Chris-W]

Colour's staying Diamond!

Good stuff

[buster]

loving the rebuild pics si,well done.Its hard graft but worth it in the end.
I think the colour scheme is spot on also.To give you an idea ,heres a pic of when i had the fake pina stripes on my sport.Its the same colour as yours :







Keep on with the updates,and plenty of pictures please

[Andyboy]

Colour's staying Diamond!

Diamond SUCKS!!

It can make any old turd look good............


It's not a bad colour, just a bit lacklustre.

[Simon13]

Excellent work Si - How many hours have you spent on it so far?

I dread to think so far it's all fun but it's defo not something i'm going to do again in a hurry. I feel like i'vew done alot but then i look at how much there is left to do and the money needed to do it and wince at the madness of it all! but i'll keep plugging away as it's only worth £10 as it is!

Buster lovely pic's i remember from the old zone and at Gaydon a few years back

I'm waiting for money to come in i'm owed so i can start spending it again!

[Ant]

Simon, I still have that numbered, pukka Alpina block/rods and minty pistons dude.

they are actually Garys' but I have instructed to sell on his behalf.

Its an option, but so is a fresh 84mm bored B20, loosing the steam holes is not the end of the world dude.

[boybimmerm3]

Si, you should have called me if you wanted the bodywork done, give me a caal anyway when you have time and we can catch up, i have been real busy lately but hopefully getting quieter nearer to christmas.

[Simon13]

Ant i've got that complete bottome end spare from Jit's old engine remember?! I've also got a 2.0 block so there's options here.

Custom lightweight oversize 1 slugs is another nice expensive option!

Stu i was going to call in randomly on sunday as i was in Bracknell but i had to get back asap from there cos my dad, ramdomly turned up!

[daimlerman]

Too many black cars,I vote Alpina Blue....

[Simon13]

it's not a car you can really change the colour on is it?!

[bmwe30mtech]

it's not a car you can really change the colour on is it?!

No. Definatly keep it black. Wouldnt be right in any other colour IMO.