Migrants. Should We Let Them All In?

[Cloggy Saint]

Yeah, for about 48 hours, and when they realised the writing was on the wall they started signing up for the German army

[bab-91]

I take it you have experience in dealing with armed conflict situations? Or are you an armchair warrior like most on here?

Oi Vey, Pony is that you?

I'm not the one calling for the Syrians to man up and fight off the bullies.

[jmc330i]

I take it you have experience in dealing with armed conflict situations? Or are you an armchair warrior like most on here?

Oi Vey, Pony is that you?

Nicely avoided the question... must have experience of politics lol

I'm not the one calling for the Syrians to man up and fight off the bullies.

Your suggestion would be?


TBF, my comment was more aimed at the migrants coming here for freebies - I've got no issue with helping/supporting genuine refugees but I'd say they will get more from the UK than if they were in another country.

[Simon13]

Yeah, for about 48 hours, and when they realised the writing was on the wall they started signing up for the German army

Thing is, alot in europeans didn't like communism and stalin even less. The Germans formed a whole SS "Viking" division from volunteers from all over europe, holland, france, belgium, denmark, norway

The thought of having a go at Stalin appealed but we know it didn't quite work out that way and the ones who survived we not welcomed by some in their own countries

[Kos]

Fight back, the thousands/millions of 20 & 30 something males are happy enough to leave their families behind in a war zone while they go hitchhiking across europe for the promise of a better life, why not stand tough and sort the problem at home?

Easy to say from the comfort of your safe suburban home. You might feel differently if there was some blood-thirsty nutter waving an AK in your direction.

What Dan is saying is to get your own AK and fight back. This lot were sitting in their own quiet suburban homes until IS decided to make life uncomfortable for all. Bullies will always try it on till somebody hits back with equal force...

Would you not protect your own home from insurgents? Or would you take flight and leave your family to fend for themselves like so many of this lot have?

You would be leading a very different life in Amsterdam if the allied forces had not stood up to the invading forces and chucked them out!

This is why in Cyprus we have a small arsenal just in case it's 1974 all over again

[DanThe]

Easy to say from the comfort of your safe suburban home. You might feel differently if there was some blood-thirsty nutter waving an AK in your direction.

What Dan is saying is to get your own AK and fight back. This lot were sitting in their own quiet suburban homes until IS decided to make life uncomfortable for all. Bullies will always try it on till somebody hits back with equal force...

Would you not protect your own home from insurgents? Or would you take flight and leave your family to fend for themselves like so many of this lot have?

You would be leading a very different life in Amsterdam if the allied forces had not stood up to the invading forces and chucked them out!

This would be the ideal but who's going to arm and train these people? And your last paragraph contradicts your argument. The Dutch were incapable of defending their own country and had to rely on the allies to save their asses. Why don't the coalition forces do the same in Syria?

No need, it looks like Russia is going in heavy handed!

[bab-91]

I take it you have experience in dealing with armed conflict situations? Or are you an armchair warrior like most on here?

Oi Vey, Pony is that you?

Nicely avoided the question... must have experience of politics lol

I'm not the one calling for the Syrians to man up and fight off the bullies.

Your suggestion would be?


TBF, my comment was more aimed at the migrants coming here for freebies - I've got no issue with helping/supporting genuine refugees but I'd say they will get more from the UK than if they were in another country.

I didn't avoid the question. I just belittled Will for his half assed come back. I didn't take the stance of "stand and fight". Yet somhow got accused of being an Arm Chair General despite not advocating Syrians to become 'Rambo' types from a trouble free corner of the world.

Of course I have no personal experience of conflict, Mother wouldn't have allowed it, I thought that would have been obvious?

My suggestion? Let the Arab League and regional powers deal with the fanatics on their own door step.

[jmc330i]

I didn't avoid the question. I just belittled Will for his half assed come back.

Yes you did
Willnz is probably just as curious about your experience of conflict as you were when you asked the question. At least you got a sensible answer.

Of course I have no personal experience of conflict, Mother wouldn't have allowed it, I thought that would have been obvious?

My suggestion? Let the Arab League and regional powers deal with the fanatics on their own door step.

I don't know you or your Mother, I would of thought that would have been obvious lol.

I can't see the Arab League doing much now, surely it's been too long?

[sanitroc1]

For all of you that voted yes , which of these do you want as a neighbor .
http://thumbsnap.com/5WDjDjKm

[sanitroc1]

This is emerging now about the little boy that was shown dead on a beach .
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The father of drowned Syrian toddler Aylan Kurdi was working with smugglers and driving the flimsy boat that capsized trying to reach Greece, other passengers on board said, in an account that disputes the version he gave last week.

[jmc330i]

For all of you that voted yes , which of these do you want as a neighbor .
http://thumbsnap.com/5WDjDjKm

People are talking about that picture on Facebook and its reported as being from Aug 2014.

[sanitroc1]

That may be correct as I was only shown the photo , but if that was a year ago when there was no " refugee crisis " how many are in europe now ? .

[bab-91]

I can't see the Arab League doing much now, surely it's been too long?

There is already an Arab Coalition active in Yemen. No reason they can't take on IS with help from Iran and Russia.

If they can't put their differences aside, why should anyone step in and bail them out?

[bourne]

We talk about ISIS/ISIL IS or whatever they want to call this group but just cast your minds back slightly. Remember the so called 'Rebels' or the 'Free Syria Army' that we were meeting in Geneva and funding and arming to overthrow Asad.....where have they gone. I will tell you......they are ISIS !!!!

We simply armed the wrong people in an attempt to overthrow yet another government that has NOTHING to do with us but guess what....we got it wrong....AGAIN !!!!

So, the refugees are running from an environment we helped create and therefore we have a morale duty to accept refugees.

These are the results of our own actions people.

I don't expect everyone to understand what i have said or even believe it but i am afraid this is fact.

[DanThe]

Don't worry about isis, Corbyn has invited them round to sort out their problems over a cup of tea and a custard cream

[pacerpete]

In other (related) news, Rav has a new van

Be sure to watch until the end and check out his cargo !

[Rav335uk]

Hightop van.....not mine.
But that looks like it was coming of near Iver Heath...so it looks like they made their way to yours for the werthers then..
Youll be busy Pete..make sure you get plenty of Tesco cheap toilet paper for the messy clean up.

[pacerpete]

Hightop van.....not mine.
But that looks like it was coming of near Iver Heath...so it looks like they made their way to yours for the werthers then..
Youll be busy Pete..make sure you get plenty of Tesco cheap toilet paper for the messy clean up.

Looks like a good business opportunity, charge the c000nts £7.86 each x 49* = a nice days wages



* There may have been 48, I lost count after 40 !

[Rav335uk]

Bargainzzzzzz for the immigrants then.

[Kos]

We talk about ISIS/ISIL IS or whatever they want to call this group but just cast your minds back slightly. Remember the so called 'Rebels' or the 'Free Syria Army' that we were meeting in Geneva and funding and arming to overthrow Asad.....where have they gone. I will tell you......they are ISIS !!!!

We simply armed the wrong people in an attempt to overthrow yet another government that has NOTHING to do with us but guess what....we got it wrong....AGAIN !!!!

So, the refugees are running from an environment we helped create and therefore we have a morale duty to accept refugees.

These are the results of our own actions people.

I don't expect everyone to understand what i have said or even believe it but i am afraid this is fact.

I always said that arming the Rebels was a bad idea and I always believed that it was IS behind it.

Putin & Assad have the right idea.

[sanitroc1]

Google this phrase: REPORT: MUSLIM MIGRANTS RAPING WOMEN & CHILDREN AT GERMAN REFUGEE CAMP

[Andyboy]

We talk about ISIS/ISIL IS or whatever they want to call this group but just cast your minds back slightly. Remember the so called 'Rebels' or the 'Free Syria Army' that we were meeting in Geneva and funding and arming to overthrow Asad.....where have they gone. I will tell you......they are ISIS !!!!

We simply armed the wrong people in an attempt to overthrow yet another government that has NOTHING to do with us but guess what....we got it wrong....AGAIN !!!!

So, the refugees are running from an environment we helped create and therefore we have a morale duty to accept refugees.

These are the results of our own actions people.

I don't expect everyone to understand what i have said or even believe it but i am afraid this is fact.

I always said that arming the Rebels was a bad idea and I always believed that it was IS behind it.

Putin & Assad have the right idea.

Trouble is, look what happened the last time Russia tried to invade Afghanistan. But Putin and Assad putting an end to ISIS? A fine idea. The 'British Muslims' involved can all spend the next 40 years in a Siberian Gulag.
But what's Putin's angle? Another addition to the rebuilding of the USSR?

[Kos]

Possibly and I don't see why not

Russia has been frozen by the west so he needs allies and trade partners

[bab-91]

We talk about ISIS/ISIL IS or whatever they want to call this group but just cast your minds back slightly. Remember the so called 'Rebels' or the 'Free Syria Army' that we were meeting in Geneva and funding and arming to overthrow Asad.....where have they gone. I will tell you......they are ISIS !!!!

We simply armed the wrong people in an attempt to overthrow yet another government that has NOTHING to do with us but guess what....we got it wrong....AGAIN !!!!

So, the refugees are running from an environment we helped create and therefore we have a morale duty to accept refugees.

These are the results of our own actions people.

I don't expect everyone to understand what i have said or even believe it but i am afraid this is fact.

I always said that arming the Rebels was a bad idea and I always believed that it was IS behind it.

Putin & Assad have the right idea.

Trouble is, look what happened the last time Russia tried to invade Afghanistan. But Putin and Assad putting an end to ISIS? A fine idea. The 'British Muslims' involved can all spend the next 40 years in a Siberian Gulag.
But what's Putin's angle? Another addition to the rebuilding of the USSR?

Syria is a long standing ally of Russia. Assad's father was trained to fly Migs in the Soviet Union, lucky sod.

[Andyboy]

Any politician whose Father flew MiG's is a hero.

We should be supporting Assad, just like we should have supported Gaddafi. That's not a popular view with the lefties though.

[Kos]

I don't think it's a popular view with anyone

However the truth hurts

[Gert_8]

Should have supported Saadam as well.

[ImysE30]

Like they supported Osama!

[corkie]

After seeing St Bob setting a good example , I have decided to open my doors to two Syrians. I have requested two 16 year olds and am waiting for pictures

Boys or girls ?was just wondering !

[Andyboy]

One each. Can't go wrong.

[magpie]

all these religious war stuff is shit , there is no fookin god of any kind or form it's all shite .

[Hankymarv]

We should let em all in then move to their country and take everything with us, as ling as their weather is better we could rebuild all the other crap in no time.