320 throttle bodies
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AndyBird
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anyone fitted throttle bodies to a 320? or any 6 cylinder? ive seen them i someone sig?
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Jhonno
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someones got them on a 325i and someone is planning the fitment of them to a 3.5 m30..
no point putting them on a 2.0 tho
no point putting them on a 2.0 tho
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Turbo-Brown
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I'm making some for my 325 turbo too 
I think there is a point in putting them on any engine if only for improved throttle response and idle
I think there is a point in putting them on any engine if only for improved throttle response and idle
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AndyBird
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any good engine with throttle bodies should make 100bhp per litre so ide say it is worth it?
anyone got any pictures of some fitted
anyone got any pictures of some fitted
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So you're saying if I put throttle bodies on my 2.7 I SHOULD get 270bhp!
I doubt it.
Here you go this guy in america is doing them diy stylee with GSXR 600 TB'S

Oh and direct nitrous
I doubt it.
Here you go this guy in america is doing them diy stylee with GSXR 600 TB'S

Oh and direct nitrous
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Turbo-Brown
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You are joking aren't you?!AndyBird wrote:any good engine with throttle bodies should make 100bhp per litre so ide say it is worth it?
anyone got any pictures of some fitted
Seriously, you're saying that and engine, 2v or 4v will make 100bhp/litre.
I'd say a more realistic figure for a 2v engine would be 75bhp/litre (taken from Dave Walkers Engine Management book).
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Widge wrote:So you're saying if I put throttle bodies on my 2.7 I SHOULD get 270bhp!
I doubt it.
Here you go this guy in america is doing them diy stylee with GSXR 600 TB'S
Oh and direct nitrous
M50 Turbo!!!
I shall say no more 
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Jhonno
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AndyBird wrote:any good engine with throttle bodies should make 100bhp per litre so ide say it is worth it?
anyone got any pictures of some fitted
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AndyBird
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peugeot 206 1.9 litre engine on throttle bodies is 190 bhp
i know thats only 1 example
proper throttle bodies can give a very good gain
i know thats only 1 example
proper throttle bodies can give a very good gain
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Jhonno
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yeah i know - end of the day tho its limited by the engine...
320 isnt worth doin shit all with.. enjoy it for its baby bro to the 2.5 status despite the fact it has the same/worse drink issues
320 isnt worth doin shit all with.. enjoy it for its baby bro to the 2.5 status despite the fact it has the same/worse drink issues
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AndyBird
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im gonna find the bit i was quoting about the throttle bodies .
i retract my prevoius statement for the time being
i retract my prevoius statement for the time being
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craigieeb
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want a race like jhonno??? my 320i against you'r 325Jhonno wrote:
320 isnt worth doin sh*t all with.. enjoy it for its baby bro to the 2.5 status despite the fact it has the same/worse drink issues
M50 Turbo!!!
I shall say no more 
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Jhonno
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craigieeb wrote:want a race like jhonno??? my 320i against you'r 325Jhonno wrote:
320 isnt worth doin sh*t all with.. enjoy it for its baby bro to the 2.5 status despite the fact it has the same/worse drink issues
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M50 Turbo!!!
I shall say no more 
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Jhonno
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:rotfl:
No worries dude 
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Turbo-Brown
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Wasn't aware that there was a 1.9 206, unless you're refering to the diesel.AndyBird wrote:peugeot 206 1.9 litre engine on throttle bodies is 190 bhp
i know thats only 1 example
proper throttle bodies can give a very good gain
Either that or you're talking about the S16 engine'd GTi cars which have.....4valve heads, unlike the M20 which have 2valve heads.
You're right that you can gain by switching to TBs, but there's not a huge amount of point unless you're trying to regain something like a smooth idle and drivability when you've got high lift/overlap cams fitted, or in my case, trying to sharpen the throttle response taken by the turbos.
Also worth bearing in mind that TBs are often acompanied by new engine management which in itself can give decent gains.
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Jhonno wrote: 320 isnt worth doin sh*t all with.. enjoy it for its baby bro to the 2.5 status despite the fact it has the same/worse drink issues
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mr bird sir, engine tuning is a bit more involved than just whacking ITB's on and magically making the 100bhp/lite figure.
not saying its totally impossible but its going to require a bit more work than sticking ITB's on.
i want itb's dont expect to suddenly make 250bhp though ...would be nice.. mind you i want them more for the sound than anything else
not saying its totally impossible but its going to require a bit more work than sticking ITB's on.
i want itb's dont expect to suddenly make 250bhp though ...would be nice.. mind you i want them more for the sound than anything else
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AndyBird
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im more than aware of this dont think im a newbie... well rephase that im a newbie to N/A cars spending the last 5-6 years on 200sx S13, S14, Silvia S12 and Skyline R33 GTSTRearwheel_nick wrote:mr bird sir, engine tuning is a bit more involved than just whacking ITB's on and magically making the 100bhp/lite figure.
not saying its totally impossible but its going to require a bit more work than sticking ITB's on.
i want itb's dont expect to suddenly make 250bhp though ...would be nice.. mind you i want them more for the sound than anything else
the 206 i was talking about was down at a lad i knows place JAmsport in northampton may have been a 2.0?
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Turbo-Brown
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If it was a 2.0 then it was most probably the s16 engine and as such does have 4v per cyl and so it's quite feasible to make 100bhp / litre in road going trim, but the point people are making is that not all engines have the benefit of 4v heads and the M20 is one such engine.

