can this be possible 2.7 with 280 bhp

[DJ_B4L]

i jus saw a engine for sale

this is the spec its a 2.7 and they cliam its got 280 bhp

327i 280 bhp

2700cc eta crank

2700 eta con rods

325i pistons

Ported and polished head

Kent cam No.342h xtra high lift

New piston rings

New big end shells

high pressure oil pump

Six branch manifold

535i injectors

ECU Chip

[billgatese30]

280bhp is one hell of a tall order from a 2.7 engine

Scot (player6) on here spent about 10K on a 2.8 and only got around the 250-260 BHP mark

280 is dreaming imho

[DJ_B4L]

lol its funny i thought the same aswel and this is without a turbo i know you can get about 220 bhp

its on ebay a guy selling it cliaming it got 280 bhp made by Unique car services Ltd

[E30BeemerLad]

that's one hell of a cam profile, that fekker won't tick over very well

those figures would probably be right....................with 7psi of boost

dreamer

[DJ_B4L]

sorry i meant without a turbo

[billgatese30]

190-200 is a run of the mill 2.7 benchmark

220 is a nice figure and certainly isn't unknown..........to get more than that then you either have to spending more cash or be very lucky

[DJ_B4L]

heres the item

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/bmw-e30-2700cc-25 ... dZViewItem

[aus325]

1 and a quarter inches off the block??

[mrLEE30]

power at the crank maybe (and optomistic power to boot) and he does say 250hp in his ad headline then 280 in the text...hmmmmm my chin itcheth!

mrlee

[Jhonno]

No mention of headwork - with a wild cam 210 at most imo

[Gouki]

this was posted up somewhere else I think! Unrealistic power figures but if its had that work done on it and you can pick it up for a cheap price go for it.

[Andyboy]

It hasn't even been built yet!!

Forget it.

[dazleeds]

It hasn't even been built yet!!

Forget it.

thats what i was thinking too

[fuzzy]

280bhp is one hell of a tall order from a 2.7 engine

Scot (player.....somthing or other) on here spent about 10K on a 2.8 and only got around the 250-260 BHP mark

280 is dreaming imho

250bhp for 10G now i remember why i stuck a ford lump in

[player6]

coz its not a m20

[fuzzy]

coz its not a m20

yours or mine? what made you choose that route then? why not go the bigger engine conversion way? i assume that it must be near the limit of its tune-ability (if thats such a word) after spending such a large sum without going f/i ?

[player6]

it only went 4 a 2.7 conversion with maf but bexley did a 2,8 and after chat to sal i want 4 tbs and mbe it was just a on giong thing

[maxfield]

i think it could be possible to get close 280hp

scott i think you could go wilder on your cams for more power ??

hmm 280hp

13.1 compression
serious headwork
324 cam as he stated
50mm itbs
custom c/f airbox
nife edged crank
lighter rods and pistons
revving to 8.5k

may come reasonably close to 280hp but not woth it

[maxfield]

oh and a good exhaust system

[E30Adam]

i think it could be possible to get close 280hp

scott i think you could go wilder on your cams for more power ??

hmm 280hp

13.1 compression
serious headwork
324 cam as he stated
50mm itbs
custom c/f airbox
nife edged crank
lighter rods and pistons
revving to 8.5k

may come reasonably close to 280hp but not woth it

Are you having a laugh Maxy. The old M20 would detonate with 13.1 CR.

I think the 342 cam he refers to is the part number, there's no way it would run if there was such a cam as a 342 degree one. My 284/272 is bad enough.

If there were such a fool to have enough money to tune an M20 to 280bhp then they'd have to be bloody rich and would need admitting to the mental institute.

[DRIFTBOY]

From what I've read 535i injectors probably wouldn't be able to handle 280 bhp.
Sounds like he measured power on the pub 6 stellas dyno!

[maxfield]

i think it could be possible to get close 280hp

scott i think you could go wilder on your cams for more power ??

hmm 280hp

13.1 compression
serious headwork
324 cam as he stated
50mm itbs
custom c/f airbox
nife edged crank
lighter rods and pistons
revving to 8.5k

may come reasonably close to 280hp but not woth it

Are you having a laugh Maxy. The old M20 would detonate with 13.1 CR.

I think the 342 cam he refers to is the part number, there's no way it would run if there was such a cam as a 342 degree one. My 284/272 is bad enough.

If there were such a fool to have enough money to tune an M20 to 280bhp then they'd have to be bloody rich and would need admitting to the mental institute.

i was being quite srious

i thought it might be possible to get thoe figures with that spec but maybe not

[E30Adam]

i was being quite srious

i thought it might be possible to get thoe figures with that spec but maybe not

And from what experience do you base your assumptions?

[fuzzy]

i think it could be possible to get close 280hp

scott i think you could go wilder on your cams for more power ??

hmm 280hp

13.1 compression
serious headwork
324 cam as he stated
50mm itbs
custom c/f airbox
nife edged crank
lighter rods and pistons
revving to 8.5k

may come reasonably close to 280hp but not woth it

do you actually know what your talking about max or are you just realing of a list of parts youve heard about? im not having a dig by the way because i dont know the ins and outs either

[E30Adam]

That thought also crossed my mind fuzzy

[player6]

if i put a cam like that in it will have no low down power and never pass a mot

[maxfield]

i was being quite srious

i thought it might be possible to get thoe figures with that spec but maybe not

And from what experience do you base your assumptions?

None!

Altho thats just a bit more than player6s engine altho his is 2.8

and fuzzy its everything i could think of to make more power

[Demlotcrew]

do you actually know what your talking about max?

Dont feel bad mate youre not the first to ask this!

Andrew

[fuzzy]

do you actually know what your talking about max?

Dont feel bad mate youre not the first to ask this!

Andrew

at 16 engine mods wasnt what i concerned myself with.you should be out there taking drugs, drinking alchopops,being a general social misfit and getting 15 year olds up the duff but id guess that concidering the amounts of cash your dads spent modifying his m3 that you havent grown up on a council estate

[E30Adam]

do you actually know what your talking about max?

Dont feel bad mate youre not the first to ask this!

Andrew

at 16 engine mods wasnt what i concerned myself with.you should be out there taking drugs, drinking alchopops,being a general social misfit and getting 15 year olds up the duff but id guess that concidering the amounts of cash your dads spent modifying his m3 that you havent grown up on a council estate

LMFAO

[Turbo-Brown]

No reason an M20 would run into problems with that compression ratio if the cam was lairy enough.

I typed out a massive essay (for a forum anyway) in another thread recently (started by Simon13 I think, about cams) which touched on why engines get away with seemingly insane compression ratios because the effective CR is so low due to the characteristics of the cam(s)

No real need for 50mm TBs though, with 40s you should still have no problems making 300bhp on a 6cyl engine.

Can't imagine that a generic 'chip' would have a clue what the requirements of this mythical engine would be though.

[snoops]

lol why doesnt someone buy it and fit it and then we can all see 4 ourselves how much power this has got

[fuzzy]

if scotts has cost 10G to build for 260 bhp i wouldnt expect much from this with a £500 starting price

[Turbo-Brown]

Scott's engine has been done properly with throttle bodies, programmable engine management and a decent exhaust manifold.

Anyone who doesn't tick those three boxes really isn't serious about tuning an N/A engine in my opinion.

[m-dtech]

emailed the dude and this was the reply............

"we have built a lot of these engines in the past the ave dino print out is between 250 bhp th 280 bhp and it does idle with no problems
hp estimation
1. 2700 conv 200 bhp approx
2. ported and gas flowed head 20 approx
2. cam 20bhp approx
3. six beanch vmanifold 20bhp approx
3. chip 10 bhp (power chips)
3 3.5 535i injectors with rail 10 bhp approx
i realize that it isnt totally accurate but you must agree they wont be far out
ray"