cheeky bugger

[nav786]

going thre ebay come across this.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 44717&rd=1

these are the DIY painted ones i see. The guys making bling.

[Ant]

wonder how much he's made?

anyways all the required info is online here : http://www.e30zone.co.uk/modules.php?na ... chtint.htm

dont waste your Ԛ£Ã”šÃ‚£ dudes, waste it on petrol instead

[Richy325iTouring]

isnt that pic off the zone tech guide
cant you lot have him for copright

[nav786]

i thought i have seen them pics before. Mine cost me Ԛ£10ish and a few zoners help.
they are Ԛ£60 at the moment, with plenty of bids. he is really making a killing

[Simon]

It wouldn't be so bad if he was making money and clearly stating that they are home made, but what p1sses me off, is that he's worded the advert to make them sound like genuine all red lights, where they're only genuine BMW lights.

He's also got the cheek to offer money back for the old lights!

[nav786]

he also dont let the porr customers know that they will flash red. i even bet he probably read the article on here and got the idea.

[Simon]

Just read some of his feedback to see what he's been selling..

E30 headrest fitting kit for Ԛ£41, available from the dealers for Ԛ£20.

M-tech II steering wheel, and he's titled it E30 and E36, where theyre not compatible. ( 2 people on here have fallen for this)

Knob..that's all I can say!

[A1BMW325iSport]

yeah the steering wheels are same for e30 + 34 the rest are diff.
damn ebay con artists, i hate the way some sellers charge inflated postage costs and sellers that charge for paypal.

[Jhonno]

i wont buy from a seller who charges for paypal... its against the rules as well iirc

[billgatese30]

yes it is

[E30Adam]

That guy did steal the idea from here and he did use the pictures that I took for the article to advertise them on ebay until I reported him.

So... looks like he's decided to steal another websites pictures:

http://e30.bmwdiy.info/red-tails/index.html

[BenE30]

will you have to put orange bulbs into the indicator loom now instead of the white ones??

Is it not an MOT failure if the blink red?? really want to do this but am not sure what i would need to make them blink orange, or is the paint so thin that they still blink orange??

Help please im a bit confused!!

[jonb]

It wouldn't be so bad if he was making money and clearly stating that they are home made, but what p1sses me off, is that he's worded the advert to make them sound like genuine all red lights, where they're only genuine BMW lights.

He's also got the cheek to offer money back for the old lights!

thats right.

noitice how this little dirt bag has used the wording to make you think they are the genuine artical.

stuff like....these are much better than the crappy replica lights?? theres no such thing as replica lights??

another e bay tosser.

[SwirlyE30]

What a twat.I was just about to say he had used pictures from another site, then read adam had mentioned that.
Ive still got my ebay acount bill ot pay as my acounts inactive at the moment, but im putting it off as im not using the site and its generaly full of twats.

I bought an Alpina Tshirt and payed etc, and i remember saying Medium (or at least i THINK i said a size) but i got it through and it was XXL, he said i didnt tell him a size so he just sent any one. I thought that was a bit harsh, he oculd of at least emailed me, and i asked if i could return the item if i paid costs and swap it (he makes tshirts, hes gota have more in stock) and he left bad feedback and didnt reply.....So now ive gota wait till im 54 and 400lb till i can wear my top lol, cunt.




Oh and Ben, im wondering that too mate, i dunno if my rear red lights will get through their MOT, i might have to get some orange bulbs, anyone recomend somthing?

[Davenotouring]

What a twat.I was just about to say he had used pictures from another site, then read adam had mentioned that.
Ive still got my ebay acount bill ot pay as my acounts inactive at the moment, but im putting it off as im not using the site and its generaly full of twats.

I bought an Alpina Tshirt and payed etc, and i remember saying Medium (or at least i THINK i said a size) but i got it through and it was XXL, he said i didnt tell him a size so he just sent any one. I thought that was a bit harsh, he oculd of at least emailed me, and i asked if i could return the item if i paid costs and swap it (he makes tshirts, hes gota have more in stock) and he left bad feedback and didnt reply.....So now ive gota wait till im 54 and 400lb till i can wear my top lol, ****.




Oh and Ben, im wondering that too mate, i dunno if my rear red lights will get through their MOT, i might have to get some orange bulbs, anyone recomend somthing?

This guy is clearly a nob.....(the guy selling the lights, not you Sam )

Maybe I'll take that T-Shirt off your hands!! It might fit me!

there tend me be lots of nobs on eBay, but the reason they get away with it lots of the time is because there are so many nobs out there buying the stuff. It's a nob eat nob world on ebay.

[placey]

i think that you're all being a bit harsh on this guy.

fair enough if he's used pictures that aren't his property and he doesn't have the rights to use - a digi camera pic is not hard to take and post up.

but he's reasonably cleverly worded the text and has not mis-described anything or made any non-truthful claims etc. bmw do charge a lot for new clusters (i know coz when i pulled a pair from my scrappy and argued the toss about the price the bloke phoned bmw and got a quote there and then!! now that's cheeky!) and all red clusters from bmtwon and the like are not too far shy of 200 - and they may be modded 'professionally' but at the end of the day they are only staffed by people like you and me doing the mods.

his idea regarding making the reversing light be the indicator with an amber bulb is cool - i didn't think of it and i haven't seen it on here either...

i say fair play to the guy - if i'd thought of it i'd have done it. i may well still seeing as i put my original clusters back on (coz i prefer them) and so have a redded set in my cellar. (Ԛ£60 anyone??)

if people want to bid silly money for them then that's their lookout. they can't be bothered with sourcing clusters/paint/masking tape and shaking and waving a can - they'd rather pay 60 plus postage - what good people. i'd like a few customers like that please.

paul

[Simon]

but he's reasonably cleverly worded the text and has not mis-described anything or made any non-truthful claims etc.

Totally dis-agree, like I said in my earlier post, no problem making the money, but think his advert is totally mis-leading, and that he should state that they are home made.

[nav786]

i agree with simon. he should state they are home made, just original lights modified.

[placey]

they're 72 quid now!!!!!

thing is you are assuming they're home made. the seller doesn't state one way or the other whether they're home made or not. they may have been purchased from bmtown (for example) or made by someone else before they came into his (her?) hands. the history of them is unstated and unknown to us and perhaps to the seller too. we know the photo is not of the actual lights for sale. why do they have to state how they came into being? i bet you won't sell your beemer by saying 'made in the bmw factory', just as an alpina is an alpina whether put together by sytners or the germans.

i stand by what i said - fair play to the seller. it's the bidders i don't understand.

paul

edit: i've noticed the postage cost too - a tenner! there's profit in that too.

[Simon]

Difference in opinion then, I'm an honest person and if selling something, then I would clearly state if the item I was selling was new/used/home made, and then if people wanted to pay me silly money for the item then so be it!

Obviuosly if you were selling an item, you would probably word it like this guy has to mislead the buyers who not all are clued up about E30's etc to make your money, which I do not agree with.

I'm surprised that this guy hasn't been mentioned on here before as he's been selling these for a while now!

[placey]

difference of opinion - great that what it's all about. much respect simon.

strangely though i'd word any advert very accurately and as truthfully as i can coz that's who i am - if you don't like my honesty then fair enough. it's the same honesty that made me post and disagree with what had been posted before.

i'm worldly wise enough to read everything everyone else writes very very carefully though.......

paul

[Simon]

I'm actually guilty of selling some stuff on e-bay myself that was way over priced, I am of the opinion that if the buyers want to pay it then that's fair enough, and good luck, I sold 2 brand new BMW glove box torches for circa Ԛ£25-30, and 2 brand new screw drivers for Ԛ£10-15, when theyre available from the dealers for Ԛ£14 and Ԛ£2.

But I did write the listings in an honest manner, and the starting bids were only Ԛ£1.00!

And also when you said earlier about assuming they were DIY efforts, I think it's farily obvious they are, but only to us E30 nuts.

[amit325i]

ebay = honest buyer beware as far as the law is concerned!

[Simon13]

orange bulbs don't work i'm afraid the only way round is too do the reverse light trick, but then you will fail mot on red reverse lights.

I have red lights they look good but are not very legal me thinks

[Ant]

no requirement to test reverse lights dude.

orange for indicators, red for everything else on the rear is fine

[SwirlyE30]

So in my situation (DIY rear lights-Rear Indicator part is now red) can i not put an orange bulb in so they at least flash orangish?

[Jon_Bmw]

So in my situation (DIY rear lights-Rear Indicator part is now red) can i not put an orange bulb in so they at least flash orangish?

Correct me if i'm wrong anyone, but an orange bulb has an offset pin, wheras the standard bulb has a straight pin, so you won't be able to insert and orange bulb into the normal indicator holder.

[Kedge]

I think if you find a decent MOT place they'll probably let you off, i bought a Mk1 Golf that had its rear lights sprayed red and it went through ok, and if the police stop you just point out the marking on the lights showing they are genuine.

[Simon]

So in my situation (DIY rear lights-Rear Indicator part is now red) can i not put an orange bulb in so they at least flash orangish?

Correct me if i'm wrong anyone, but an orange bulb has an offset pin, wheras the standard bulb has a straight pin, so you won't be able to insert and orange bulb into the normal indicator holder.

You can buy orange bulbs with opposite pins, I've got some in my front clear indicators.

[SwirlyE30]

Wheres abouts can you get them Simon?And do you recon it will help out the light colour, obviously it wont be as red as it is now, but as long as i can manage to get it orangy,one less thing to worry about.

[Simon]

I've just had a quick look at the usual bulb sites, and they only seem to list the usual 'performance' bulbs, they must be available from somewhere as I have them on my M3.
If you can't find them, just sand one of the pins down, that's what I did once, they still fit fine.

[Simon13]

ok i have orange bulbs and red rear lights they do not work.

So if you want orange then use your reverse lights