325i bhp??
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telski789
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hi,i was just wondering what bhp a standard 325i is?? any ideas??mines a d plate,cheers
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170bhp but many dont make that now
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telski789
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a friend of mine has a 325i,all he did was put a scorpion system on it,k&n filter and was chipped at rgs motorsport and it mad 204bhp! ive seen the proof! i think thats the way im gonna have to go! any other ideas which may help? waht do we think of FSE POWER BOOST VALVES???? cheers
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telski789 wrote:a friend of mine has a 325i,all he did was put a scorpion system on it,k&n filter and was chipped at rgs motorsport and it mad 204bhp! ive seen the proof! i think thats the way im gonna have to go! any other ideas which may help? waht do we think of FSE POWER BOOST VALVES???? cheers
christ!!! 204 BHP, i've never heard of those improvments making such a big difference before. by the way, did he shield the air filter from the rest of the engine bay or not.
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over reading r/rtelski789 wrote:a friend of mine has a 325i,all he did was put a scorpion system on it,k&n filter and was chipped at rgs motorsport and it mad 204bhp! ive seen the proof! i think thats the way im gonna have to go! any other ideas which may help? waht do we think of FSE POWER BOOST VALVES???? cheers
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telski789
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hey mr negativity! rgs is well known around here for being a good r/r,i saw what was done to the car from standard,and i saw it on the r/r!! so stick that in ya pie hole!! (ps,sorry if you have a 316 jhonno!!!)
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....by the way,i dont think his filter is shielded although he has an aluminium hose running from a hole he cut behind the grill direct to the filter...
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yeah i have a 316i but hey its still a mint e30 and a good way to get into the game cheap
You aint gonna get 34bhp from an exhaust/chip and filter tho dude! Makes the m50 conversion seem silly! if you read karan's spec he only made bout 10bhp more than that n its 'properly' modded by blexley (iirc!)
Im sure it did increase power but the scorpian isnt gonna give much more as the standard system is good as it is, filters i dont believe in - they dont flow anymore that a standard new paper filter, and a chip will make a bit of difference on these but not 30bhp...
You aint gonna get 34bhp from an exhaust/chip and filter tho dude! Makes the m50 conversion seem silly! if you read karan's spec he only made bout 10bhp more than that n its 'properly' modded by blexley (iirc!)
Im sure it did increase power but the scorpian isnt gonna give much more as the standard system is good as it is, filters i dont believe in - they dont flow anymore that a standard new paper filter, and a chip will make a bit of difference on these but not 30bhp...
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204bhp..no way! There's loads of guys on here doing a lot more than an exhaust, filter and chip and still struggling to break the 200bhp barrier!
Get the print out and post it up!
Get the print out and post it up!

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...perhaps not on four cylinders.....!!! only kidding,im just telling ya what i saw! thats why i wondered what theyre bhp was standard,i too wouldnt have thought those minor mods wouldve made so much,the only other mod he did was putting an electric fan on coz he said the standard fan took away power! ive now got a 325i,and im gonna do the same and ill let ya know what i get on the r/r,anyway,fse boost valves? i had one on my pug mi16 and it worked well,any good on these?? any ideas??!!

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even with the pipe feeding the filter without it properly shielded then it is only going to suck in hot air wich will actually make him lose power, torque and throttle response. the correct way to do it is to seperate it totally from the rest of the engine bay useing something like stainless that is going to insulate it quite well and be air tight(as far as reasonably possible anyway) other than the inlet which should come from the front of the car and be kept away from as many souces as heat as possible. the same goes fro the intake pipe that comes from the filter to the engine. the aim being to keep the air as cold as possible.
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i'm seeing him tomorow,so i'll borrow it and post it either then or friday!! 204 geegee's!! yeehaaa
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I've heard nothing but bad things about the FSE boost valves, Adam will tell you how his nearly burnt his car to a crisp twice...

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i'v done loads to mine and it's bearly over 200 on a cold dry day.Jhonno wrote:yeah i have a 316i but hey its still a mint e30 and a good way to get into the game cheap
You aint gonna get 34bhp from an exhaust/chip and filter tho dude! Makes the m50 conversion seem silly! if you read karan's spec he only made bout 10bhp more than that n its 'properly' modded by blexley (iirc!)
Im sure it did increase power but the scorpian isnt gonna give much more as the standard system is good as it is, filters i dont believe in - they dont flow anymore that a standard new paper filter, and a chip will make a bit of difference on these but not 30bhp...
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dude theres no need for the FSE - i dont like em n they nearly set one guy on here's e30 on fire twice!! they dont actually do anything tbh other than up the fuel pressure unnecessarily tbhtelski789 wrote:...perhaps not on four cylinders.....!!! only kidding,im just telling ya what i saw! thats why i wondered what theyre bhp was standard,i too wouldnt have thought those minor mods wouldve made so much,the only other mod he did was putting an electric fan on coz he said the standard fan took away power! ive now got a 325i,and im gonna do the same and ill let ya know what i get on the r/r,anyway,fse boost valves? i had one on my pug mi16 and it worked well,any good on these?? any ideas??!!
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ok,thanks,i wont bother with an fse! ill pos that r/r report! if its the last thing i do..........!!!
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That is absolute rubbish. There's no way on earth those minor mods would give that sort of power increase. Professionally built stroker engines with standalone management only make a little more than that.telski789 wrote:a friend of mine has a 325i,all he did was put a scorpion system on it,k&n filter and was chipped at rgs motorsport and it mad 204bhp! ive seen the proof! i think thats the way im gonna have to go! any other ideas which may help? waht do we think of FSE POWER BOOST VALVES???? cheers
If you've seen a graph then it's either a) for a different car b) fiddled c) the rolling road hasn't been calibrated correctly. Sorry but that's simply not true.
As for FSE valves, forget it. As Jhonno says, you don't need it and one set fire to my engine bay twice!

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Looking forward to it, all the guys here that were struggling to get figures of 160bhp even will be wanting to visit that rolling road!telski789 wrote:ok,thanks,i wont bother with an fse! ill pos that r/r report! if its the last thing i do..........!!!

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listen,i can tell now that people are gettin flustered over something some one else has managed and they havent! it even has his reg on the printout,i was there dammit! it was 190 ish before the chip,then they did the chip and re tested it at 204 bhp! end of!! maybe you are right,maybe they adjusted the results to please the customer,but then you could say they made yours lower when you r/r'd yours on purpose to p$$s you off! either way,its not my car,im just tellin ya what i saw,now you all get ya butts to rgs motorsport in northants!! (and no,i dont work there!)
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soory mate, dont want to p*ss you off but was 190 before the chip or before everything?? coz that is bloody high 
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hey dude - no one is getting stressed, but the results sound too good to be true! Tbh it sounds like the shape of the curve is the more important thing from this graph...
24bhp from an exhaust and filter is even less believeable then!!
we're not disputing what you saw rather the results the r/r gave!
24bhp from an exhaust and filter is even less believeable then!!
we're not disputing what you saw rather the results the r/r gave!
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Exactly, we're not trying to piss you off but enough people have had their cars RR'd on here to show that those sort of gains from a coulple of cheap mods just aren't possible. Maybe his car has a 2.7 lump without him knowing, then it would be pushing around that sort of power.Jhonno wrote:
we're not disputing what you saw rather the results the r/r gave!

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i was going to say what Adam has if it is an acurrate rolling road then i would strongly suspect a mystery 2.7!
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^^^^^^^that up there i liketelski789 wrote:listen,i can tell now that people are gettin flustered over something some one else has managed and they havent! it even has his reg on the printout,i was there dammit! it was 190 ish before the chip,then they did the chip and re tested it at 204 bhp! end of!! maybe you are right,maybe they adjusted the results to please the customer,but then you could say they made yours lower when you r/r'd yours on purpose to p$$s you off! either way,its not my car,im just tellin ya what i saw,now you all get ya butts to rgs motorsport in northants!! (and no,i dont work there!)
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204bhp in a 325 with just chip filter and zorst that rubbish no way. think that rollers are a bit optimistic
dont tell me it was tommies but then again his seem about right when the bigger cars were on there.
my old d plate 2 door got 169bhp cant rember the wheel figer now though printout here somewhere.
That was standard and done over 200k. What i didnt know was that it was gona knock its tits off a few weeks l8r though realy gutted about that
dont tell me it was tommies but then again his seem about right when the bigger cars were on there.
my old d plate 2 door got 169bhp cant rember the wheel figer now though printout here somewhere.
That was standard and done over 200k. What i didnt know was that it was gona knock its tits off a few weeks l8r though realy gutted about that

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i agree , its no M20B25 that !
stock i only had 156hp....i'm not going for power though so i cant be an example....only have 180hp now
but i got loads of torq
(for a 2L5)184lbs @ engine loool but i have MANY more modds than just what you said....
so i went to the dynos the other day and i have also proof that my car has been posessed....it gave me a 235hp engine .....
so have a good look at the power the car made out the wheels and the compare with the transmission loss... i bet ya that he got omre that 30hp loss which is already my worst with a freezin transmission.....
if not , i stand on the 2L7 side as well....
stock i only had 156hp....i'm not going for power though so i cant be an example....only have 180hp now
but i got loads of torq
so i went to the dynos the other day and i have also proof that my car has been posessed....it gave me a 235hp engine .....
if not , i stand on the 2L7 side as well....
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well my 325i cab is standard and that gave out 174.9 bhp at bexleys,but this is the earlier model and engine.
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fair enough, but you aint gonna get 30bhp with a filter/chip and zorst..andyp wrote:well my 325i cab is standard and that gave out 174.9 bhp at bexleys,but this is the earlier model and engine.
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look here for my car spec
www.geocities.com/punniracing/KARAN.htm
and u will see why it is hard to believe that output,
also there is a very big difference on the road and in the way it feels between mine and a 2.5 engine'd car with the 30ish extra hp mine has. I'd have stuck with a cheaper 2.5 and thise few mods if that is possible
still its not ures, and no one is attacking ures.. some of us, like me, with modded engines with big cc's wish we'd get gains like that in which case i'd be on 250hp.....
still a 200hp m20 2,5 revvy engione would be nice as opposed to a stroker like mine is
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www.geocities.com/punniracing/KARAN.htm
and u will see why it is hard to believe that output,
also there is a very big difference on the road and in the way it feels between mine and a 2.5 engine'd car with the 30ish extra hp mine has. I'd have stuck with a cheaper 2.5 and thise few mods if that is possible
still its not ures, and no one is attacking ures.. some of us, like me, with modded engines with big cc's wish we'd get gains like that in which case i'd be on 250hp.....
still a 200hp m20 2,5 revvy engione would be nice as opposed to a stroker like mine is
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i spoke to my mate today and hes gonna give me the report to put on the website,i also have to add that his beema is no longer beema powered,it has the engine and drivetrain from a cossie (300bhp!!!) man that engine looks weird unde a bmw hood!!!
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How this going telski - looking forward to this post 
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