Motorsport Query

[Geeman]

I'm running around in my mates Motorsport while mine's off the road. Nice.

Just had a look round it, then realised what was wrong...

It's DEFINTELY a Motorsport - it's on the V5... but

It's on a G plate, Sebring Grey, and it's got the later rear lights... how can this be?

Mine was on an H plate and I still had chrome bumpers/early rear lights...

Weird.

Giles.

[CaesarBob]

The Motorsports are all a bit confusing. There are some on H-plates with the early small rear clusters. It must be more to do with build date than reg date.

I'm sure Mr B tried to figure this out but gave up with a sore head.

[E30Adam]

Beckys is on a '92 J plate and has the tall later style rear lights.

No-one can seem to get any definitive info on these cars, Gaz and I came to the conclusion that they were produced to use up any old bits they had left in the factory so what you get was pot luck LOL

[Geeman]

Yeah, but this is a G plate with LATER rear lights... and my old one was an H plate with EARLY back lights...

[gazm3]

Motorsport on the v5, now I have never heard that. Honestly thats a new one on me , because that would make it so much easier to identify the genuine Msports.

Yes like adam has already said, rag-tag anything lying around the factory, throw it on, nobody will notice!.

[E30Adam]

Good point Gazza, Becky's hasn't got motorsport on the log book either!!

[Geeman]

Wierd... maybe it's a ringer then...

Gaz, you'll have to investigate more at the meet...

[johnono]

did different factorys send out different shapes at the same time?

could be possible, i 1 factory was still using m.b style and another had gotten its p.b style parts in

only a guess, please dont freak out on me if i get this one wrong
i dont really have a clue, please dont hit me

[Quaser]

Mines an early style h plate motorsport cab

My mate has a g plate late style cab (not m/sp)

Sometimes people get a rear end conversion so i have been told!

Q

[Bharat]

I'm sure I've mentioned this a few times, but that was in the 'old' forum

BMW did indeed do a bit of a mixed job with the Motorsport editions when it came to fitting parts.

Especially, the rear panel/light clusters.

The initial plan was to only a limited number of Motorsport edition cars, and they started with only Sebring Grey ones, and to date, it remains as a Motorsport only colour, as they wanted them to be 'special edition/specification' cars.

Hence, you will probably never find a non-Motorsport edition Sebring Grey E30 convertible.

But, at some stage, BMW just decided they wanted to get rid of all the E30
lot, so they took the Macau Blue and Calypso Red convertibles, which were just normal convertibles (mainly 325i, but a few 318i Calypsos as well) and made them as Motorsport editions.

This is where the confusion about 1st edition and 2nd edition started. I have met some idiots who claim their so called 2nd edition J reg Macau Blue was the only official Motorsport car

Oh well.

Based on the information I have gathered, ALL Sebring Grey came with the early style lights. Most of the Macau Blue got the later style, as did the Calypso Red.

BMW GB were absolute bastards to deal with, and it was a very frustrating experience finding out and detailing the Motorsport edition E30 convertibles.

Hope this information makes things a bit clearer.

[Geeman]

So my friend's Sebring Grey 'Motorsport' may not be a Motorsport then as it's Sebring Grey, but with later rear lights...

But that's not what I was really asking. Well it was, but what I was more curious about was the fact that it was a G plate with the later rear lights... as they didn't come with those rear lights till at least an H plate.

*confused*

[CaesarBob]

Aren't the Motorsports denoted by 765 at the end of the VIN number rather than the Sports which are stated on the V5?

[randomdave325]

i thought only j or k plate cabs had facelift rear lights. the earlier ones must have had a conversion at some point in their life

[Bharat]

Geeman : Check the colour code sticker on the passenger side strut in the engine bay. If it says Sebring Grey, and he has the bigger lights, then either his is a unique one, OR, someone might have had the rear panel changed ? (big job though).

The fact that it is on a G plate is even more confusing.

The only way to confirm whether a car is a genuine Motorsport edition is by contacting BMW with the reg. no and last 7 characters of the VIN number - they will check on their systems in the vehicle enquiry section, and in the specifications, it should list the code (I think it is 798 - Motorsport Edition).

And as for the V5, well, that means nothing. My V5 had my car classed as a 325i Convertible Cabriolet

I made the necessary calls and a little bit of to-ing and fro-ing later, it was corrected.

But the point I want to make is that DVLA did not ask me for any proof or clarification.

And we actually wanted to check whether this was a cock-up or were DVLA just not bothered. So my mate had the V5 for his E36 316i changed to reflect E36 Racer Edition.

Of course, once the point was proven, he got it changed back after making up some stories that it was all a mistake, because his brother was given some incorrect information, blah blah. They did not really bother asking or fussing, as he sent a nice letter with the explanation.

So don't rely simply on the V5. You have to get the confirmation from BMW's vehicle inquiry screen.

[johnono]

my mate had a g reg, black sport, factory with all the trimmings

[radback]

The only way to confirm whether a car is a genuine Motorsport edition is by contacting BMW with the reg. no and last 7 characters of the VIN number - they will check on their systems in the vehicle enquiry section, and in the specifications, it should list the code (I think it is 798 - Motorsport Edition).

Anyone can confirm this (other Motorsport Edition owners) ?
I saw on a website a list of options, and 798 is listed as: Soft-top Magenta.
It's curious as my car got a blue top and "798" is one of my car's options.

You don't need to go to BMW to know your option list, just check under the rear seat, there is a paper glued under it

[Geeman]

Just going to take some pics of the so called Motorsport now... back in a tick...

[Geeman]

Okay, at least one mystery is over. It's NOT a Motorsport... Friend told me it was, and it LOOKED like Sebring Grey, but I never bothered checking. Looked under the bonnet just now and here's what I found...



So, that still doesn't answer why it's a G plate with later rear lights though...

Some more pics...







So... silly old me will just wander over here... where no-one will see me... *whistle*


*INVISIBLE* - No one can see me... Laa dee daaah...

[gazm3]

Nice car, no Motorsport. Has it got an electric roof Geeman?.

[radback]

The only way to confirm whether a car is a genuine Motorsport edition is by contacting BMW with the reg. no and last 7 characters of the VIN number - they will check on their systems in the vehicle enquiry section, and in the specifications, it should list the code (I think it is 798 - Motorsport Edition).

Anyone can confirm this (other Motorsport Edition owners) ?
I saw on a website a list of options, and 798 is listed as: Soft-top Magenta.
It's curious as my car got a blue top and "798" is one of my car's options.

You don't need to go to BMW to know your option list, just check under the rear seat, there is a paper glued under it

So, nobody want to check their option list? Come on Motorsport owners!

[gazm3]

Just been out to the garage, to check for you mate, mine has option 0798

Interesting label thanks bud!.

I think mines number 242

Cheers Gareth.

[radback]

Just been out to the garage, to check for you mate, mine has option 0798

Interesting label thanks bud!.

I think mines number 242

Cheers Gareth.

Thanks, so it seems 798 is indeed the Motorsport Edition option number (or an option present on all motorsport cars )

[woodysjw]

I have a odd motorsport cab, It has no Mtec kit on it but everything else its on a G 1989


Went to BMW and they checked it all out and gave me this

[Davenotouring]

Someone explain woodys car!

Hi mate by the way, how's it going?

[woodysjw]

Hello mate not bad, how was Crimbo and new year.
Comming to lakeside in FEB

[Davenotouring]

Yeah, I'll be at Lakeside almost definately.

You car is looking low as ever!

Great Christmas, Great new year until 3 am when I somehow lost my wallet after buying a drink at a garage? Very drunk.......And you?!

[woodysjw]

Was good thanks, Me little girl was 4 this year and really got into it,
New year was a laugh very drunk..

I will be down in feb for the meet, my car is only a 60mm drop now not as low as b4 drives much better, Still not got my kit on though might not bother now, got some 17's for it Borbet C's should have them on be then I hope.

[Davenotouring]

Excellent stuff mate, was a right laugh last time!

'only 60mm now'

HA HA!! only!

Mine will hopefully be 40mm front and 60mm back by then.

Will be loving speed bumps.

[woodysjw]

So loads more sideways fun...... Do you think they will let me attend this
motorsport only meet now. E30Adam was a bit confused about the spec
been to 2 deallers both confirmed it as a real Motorsport is odd though.

[Davenotouring]

I'm confused about the spec too mate, but I'm not properly clued up like some.

Have you got LSD?

I still need one. Just sorting funds out!

Got a 2.5 at home waiting to go in too!

[woodysjw]

No LSD did have went Bang doing Doughnuts LOL need new one.....

[woodysjw]

still sideways though

[radback]

I have a odd motorsport cab, It has no Mtec kit on it but everything else its on a G 1989


Went to BMW and they checked it all out and gave me this

So, your's list 796 but not 798

Could other Motorsport owners can check their Option label (glued under the rear seat) to see if you've got 798 or 796?
Thanks

[woodysjw]

So whats the difference between 796 and 798

[Geeman]

393 and 380...? Two hoods...?