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Post Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:29 pm

Right this is just a rant, just noticed that my head is cracked, using coolant, mayo under the rocker cover.

Now what's the options!?

Second hand head/engine - Could still land with a lemon and be in the same position!

Amc head, problem solved I guess but are the heads any good? They flow the same etc? Also pricey.

Engine conversion - A m52 does really tempt me but unless someone is selling a full plug and play type set up I don't think I'd go down that route.

Or just set fire to it! That option seems pretty good right now!

Rambling over haha!
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Post Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:49 pm

There's a plug n play 24v for sale in the classifieds
E30 325i - In progress
E53 X5 4.6is - SOLD
E46 320d Sport Tourer - SOLD
E36 M3 - SOLD
E34 535I Sport - SOLD
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Post Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:00 pm

Yeah just noticed that, will fire him a pm, ideal situation I guess would be to see something like that running though instead of buying blind!
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Post Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:55 pm

Is your car a 325i?
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Post Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:28 pm

Blitz wrote:Is your car a 325i?
Unfortunately not, just a m20b25 converted 2dr 320i, it's a good solid shell though
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Post Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:28 am

Brian you have a PM.
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Post Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:56 pm

B7 wrote:Brian you have a PM.
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Post Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:17 pm

Anyone out there with a proven good 325 head?
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Post Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:17 am

The AMC heads are not as good as the BMW ones from a casting quality and dimensional accuracy POV, However they are within spec.

The ports are not as good in stock form and don't flow as well, however they are a touch smaller and the casting is thicker, this means they are a much better start for a ported head and have been shown to be easier to get gains over the stock 885 from and can outperform a ported 885 (without welding to move the ports about).

I am told these heads are also thicker in the critical cam valley as well which helps.

Trouble is to use an AMC head and have it tweaked to be better your in for £1200 at least assuming you do the build up yourself. :eek:
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Post Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:59 am

HairyScreech wrote:The AMC heads are not as good as the BMW ones from a casting quality and dimensional accuracy POV, However they are within spec.

The ports are not as good in stock form and don't flow as well, however they are a touch smaller and the casting is thicker, this means they are a much better start for a ported head and have been shown to be easier to get gains over the stock 885 from and can outperform a ported 885 (without welding to move the ports about).

I am told these heads are also thicker in the critical cam valley as well which helps.

Trouble is to use an AMC head and have it tweaked to be better your in for £1200 at least assuming you do the build up yourself. :eek:
Cool cheers for the info, would be a good option for a serious big build I bet!

Are tested 325 heads now a rare thing? I think if I do find one now I'm going to keep it tucked away :cry:
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Post Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:53 pm

Kind of, but only because everyone is keeping them tucked away. :cry:
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Post Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:32 pm

Haha no wonder I can't get one :cry:
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Post Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:37 pm

HairyScreech wrote:Kind of, but only because everyone is keeping them tucked away. :cry:
I'm not the only one then :D
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Post Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:06 pm

ross_jsy wrote:
HairyScreech wrote:Kind of, but only because everyone is keeping them tucked away. :cry:
I'm not the only one then :D
Nope, I'm guilty as well.
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Post Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:07 pm

I've got a couple 885 stashed away, plus a heavily worked AMC and the head i use on my DD.......

i cut up a 731 head the other day because it was cracked, they don't look any stronger than the 885 in the cam valley not sure about AMC. there is evidence the number 5 was running hotter than others and aluminium doesnt like heat the mechanical properties go to shit.

i must say the design is hopeless there is no support for the cam journals other than 5-6mm of cast alloy like a half pipe tube no gussets. i understand they dont want to restrict the flow of coolant but it wouldn't take much to improve it at the design stage without affecting coolant flow to any significant degreee
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Post Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:44 am

Cool I'm glad you've all got one stashed away :roll:
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Post Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:04 am

Think a m52 is the way forward now, :D
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Post Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:36 am

There's this on ebay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-325i-525i ... xyl5lSKGTg
Looks like the seller doesn't know what he has - the description is all for an M50, which doesn't match the pics.
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Post Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:42 am

Brianmoooore wrote:There's this on ebay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-325i-525i ... xyl5lSKGTg
Looks like the seller doesn't know what he has - the description is all for an M50, which doesn't match the pics.
Just had a look, to say his feedback is poor is an understatement 8O

Thanks for the help though :D
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Post Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:45 pm

A lot of the bad feedback is because he sent the wrong part - he doesn't know what he's selling.
I wouldn't consider buying this for a second without seeing it first.
Like most sellers of second hand parts, the guarantee involves you doing the testing and complaining if it's faulty.
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Post Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:06 pm

Yeah it might be difficult to see it when people are claiming he's trading from outside the country, sounds legit :cry:


There was one on eBay last night but it got snapped up sharp!

An amc head might not be so expensive after all when you factor in the buying a second hand head, testing it etc and possibly being in the same position!
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Post Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:21 pm

I have a pressure tested and skimmed head here im just not keen on posting.
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Post Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:24 pm

sweep wrote:I have a pressure tested and skimmed head here im just not keen on posting.
Sent a pm :D