Short Shift Advice
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LondonTom
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Hi Guys,
I'm after a bit of advice for which shifter to go with on my track car.
I was hoping to find an aftermarket shifter but not worth spending the money as I'm a shite driver.
So I have narrowed it down to either the Z3 2.8, Z3M or Z4 3.0. If anyone has used the above shifters and could give me some feedback, I'd really appreciate it.
Might also be worth noting I will be using quite a tall gear knob.
Thanks
Tom
I'm after a bit of advice for which shifter to go with on my track car.
I was hoping to find an aftermarket shifter but not worth spending the money as I'm a shite driver.
So I have narrowed it down to either the Z3 2.8, Z3M or Z4 3.0. If anyone has used the above shifters and could give me some feedback, I'd really appreciate it.
Might also be worth noting I will be using quite a tall gear knob.
Thanks
Tom
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bosers
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I got a twenty quid one off fleabay and it works fine. 
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LondonTom
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I'd rather go with a bmw part then one of those, I know a few people use them though.bosers wrote:I got a twenty quid one off fleabay and it works fine.
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hillbilly30
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Be carful to read the description of the cheap ones as I think some of them are quite extreme, one was advertised as shortening the lever 4" That seemed a lot!
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KW355
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Me toobosers wrote:I got a twenty quid one off fleabay and it works fine.
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Acaciastrain360
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Me threeKW355 wrote:Me toobosers wrote:I got a twenty quid one off fleabay and it works fine.
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LondonTom
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Thanks but re the eBay ones I wouldn't fit one to my car as I would rather go for a branded part.
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Genuine Z3 1.9 short shifter, not sure how short, but may be what you are looking for
http://store.garagistic.com/e30-perform ... rts?page=4
http://store.garagistic.com/e30-perform ... rts?page=4
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LondonTom
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Thanks mate - the wiki on here is really useful and give the part numbers and prices (not sure how recent though).motormanmick wrote:Genuine Z3 1.9 short shifter, not sure how short, but may be what you are looking for
http://store.garagistic.com/e30-perform ... rts?page=4
Think I'm going to go for the Z3m.
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DanThe
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Beware as depending on what gearbox/prop combo you have you may not have enough room for a very short throw lever, I drove an M20 with a Z4 3.0 which is slightly longer throw than the Z3 M and it was awful, the box just isn't up to the precise gear change thats needed to engage it with such a short throw


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LondonTom
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Thanks for the feedback Dan - I was about to call the dealers.DanThe wrote:Beware as depending on what gearbox/prop combo you have you may not have enough room for a very short throw lever, I drove an M20 with a Z4 3.0 which is slightly longer throw than the Z3 M and it was awful, the box just isn't up to the precise gear change thats needed to engage it with such a short throw
It's going onto a getrag 260 or 265 (whatever came in a 325i sport) - what would you suggest, the 1.9 or 2.8?
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ive just done z3 one with related parts its night and day compared to the original cant recommend it enough,
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LondonTom
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Thanks Rotta - the 1.9 one did you use?rotta wrote:ive just done z3 one with related parts its night and day compared to the original cant recommend it enough,
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Yep, you don't need anything more than the Z3 1.9 lever on a 325i 
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LondonTom
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Thanks Dan - there's a fair bit of play in the lever so will replace the bush too.DanThe wrote:Yep, you don't need anything more than the Z3 1.9 lever on a 325i
Cheers guys.
Tom
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i did indeedLondonTom wrote:Thanks Rotta - the 1.9 one did you use?rotta wrote:ive just done z3 one with related parts its night and day compared to the original cant recommend it enough,
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LondonTom
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Going to do this tomorrow - just a quick question - how much do the selector rod need to be bent / modified?
The gearbox is getrag 260/5.
Thanks
Tom
The gearbox is getrag 260/5.
Thanks
Tom
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Are you confusing this with fitting a gearbox to an engine that sits at a different angle?LondonTom wrote:Going to do this tomorrow - just a quick question - how much do the selector rod need to be bent / modified?
The gearbox is getrag 260/5.
Thanks
Tom
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LondonTom
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Thanks Guys.
Brian sorry for the confusion but in the wiki it states the selector rod needs bending yet I have read elsewhere and as Cloggy says above it doesn't need bending at all.
Cloggy do you have a vibration damper on your prop?
Brian sorry for the confusion but in the wiki it states the selector rod needs bending yet I have read elsewhere and as Cloggy says above it doesn't need bending at all.
Cloggy do you have a vibration damper on your prop?
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I have a z3 1.9 on my M30 and what a difference it made!
Feels tight without being too short..genuinely feels like that's how it was always supposed to be!
I wouldn't want to go any shorter than that!
Feels tight without being too short..genuinely feels like that's how it was always supposed to be!
I wouldn't want to go any shorter than that!
Check my M30 build threads:
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LondonTom
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Cheers again lads - all done.

