Please Teach Me How To Drift

[G-string]

ok it extreamly easy spin and donut a BeeM in any direction coz your
spin cicumfrance is quite small the problem I have is on drift tho I'm abit
on he scared side and havn't even tried coz drifting a car thro's a whole lot wider
what I need to know B4 I start trying it out is some advise on how 2 go about doin it from start 2 finish (plz)

[Adammcf]

Best thing is to get a nice large empty car park in the middle of nowhere and have some fun and also down load a few of the jap drifting vids. Theres hundreds of them out there.

[6potWil6pot]

Drifting is dammn hard, if you can get hold of "The Drift Bible" which is a huge long video teaching u how to drift, thatll teach u a bit.
I think the hardest bit about doing it in an E30 is the 4 turns lock to lock, gotta be fast or youll be facing the inside of the bit of road/track your trying to drift on, then unwinding it quickly or youll get a tank slapper or a "Mr Whippy" and the car will be shunted tail out the other way!

[325dude]

well drifting in bms isnt as easy as it sounds as the bm is normally asperated and unless you are sporting a large engine then you cannot power drift (just booting the exelerator to get the back end out) there are other way all of which are bassicaly making the car unstable i have a jap dvd called the drift bible and he shows the ways to drift different types of cars get that as its very handy .........................j

[Dom]

My advice is to wait until the roads are wet. Find a small ish roundabout with wide exits. Enter the roundabout in second gear slowly in a position as though you were going straight on. As the roundabout begins to go right whip the steering wheel in tighter to unbalance the car. At the same time increase the throttle. Keep practising this until the rear begins to slide (you should only use limited throttle at first until you find you traction limits). Don't lift off snappily and if things do go wrong just hit the brakes. You should be going slow enough and have a wide enough area to only damage your ego.

Slow and safe at first

[Adammcf]

4 turns lock to lock?! Bloody hell thats bad.

[Guest]

enter corner with the nose of the car about 45 degrees to the apex of the corner. Enter second gear, double declutching, and apply brake pressure (if using scandinavian flick). Wind on lock, point wheels at apex. At apex, apply opposite lock when the engine revs pick back up after coming down to second. Wind on the opposite lock and the balance of the rear will fade out. Revese the opposite lock and apply (gently) throttle. Allow the steering to catch back up and the rear end will come back round.

The more gentle and smooth you can be in all of this process will be the reward of a nice long drift.

I'd advise doing this on a very wide area of tarmac under supervision rather than just going out and buying a dvd (not having a pop at anyone here - its just a DVD will not give you any feedback or tell you to correct what you are doing wrong)

[Karan]

enter corner with the nose of the car about 45 degrees to the apex of the corner. Enter second gear, double declutching, and apply brake pressure (if using scandinavian flick). Wind on lock, point wheels at apex. At apex, apply opposite lock when the engine revs pick back up after coming down to second. Wind on the opposite lock and the balance of the rear will fade out. Revese the opposite lock and apply (gently) throttle. Allow the steering to catch back up and the rear end will come back round.

The more gentle and smooth you can be in all of this process will be the reward of a nice long drift.

I'd advise doing this on a very wide area of tarmac under supervision rather than just going out and buying a dvd (not having a pop at anyone here - its just a DVD will not give you any feedback or tell you to correct what you are doing wrong)

u obviously have not seen the Tsuchiya's drift bible then!

nice empty roundabout and car park practise is what u need, and a set of rears with little grip to practise one and abuse.

easy method is just turn in and rev it then drop the clutch.

Karan

[M3Imy]

or you could just watch Karan drifting or even better get taken for a spin

[Jimbob]

Not to mention the requirement of LSD.

[SwirlyE30]

Yeh an LSD certainly does help.Altough with some practice ive seen people do it quite well.

Im sure DaveTouring can attest to that, only seen him give it a bit but in his touring (320 with normal diff) hes been able to get the arse out a lot.

[Karan]

Yeh an LSD certainly does help.Altough with some practice ive seen people do it quite well.

Im sure DaveTouring can attest to that, only seen him give it a bit but in his touring (320 with normal diff) hes been able to get the arse out a lot.

u can get the arse out easy with an open diff but keeping it there for ages is nigh on impossible

Karan

[Davenotouring]

u can get the arse out easy with an open diff but keeping it there for ages is nigh on impossible

Karan

I must show you the vid!

[Karan]

impossible for us mere mortals dave

[Jimbob]

Shame we couldn't get to see any of it on Saturday Dave
It's not like the diff would've done much damage in the boot

[Russ]

This looks interesting

http://www.driftacademy.co.uk/

[Markymarc]

i love a bit of side ways, open diffs are just as good but can be harder to get going especially in the dry
a mate of mine organises drift days on air fields,he's got a scooby, but one of regular cars which is one of the only non jap motors is a 318i and he does show them a thing or two, and hasn't got a lsd, but it does run on full race fuel,goes like a rocket.

[Guest]

u obviously have not seen the Tsuchiya's drift bible then!

Karan

not yet...if anyone can burn off a copy onto vcd I'd be really greatful...or maybe its on one of the torrent sites?

[Karan]

its on torrent i think

search 'drift' in www.isohunt.com or something like that

660mb i think

Karan

[zaust]

Yeh an LSD certainly does help.Altough with some practice ive seen people do it quite well.

Im sure DaveTouring can attest to that, only seen him give it a bit but in his touring (320 with normal diff) hes been able to get the arse out a lot.

u can get the arse out easy with an open diff but keeping it there for ages is nigh on impossible

Karan

sorry got to disagree there it comes down to power at the wheels....
eg:- Opel manta no lsd on nothing. drum rears but you can drift em for "ariston"

[Karan]

my rwd experience is limited to e30s really, so the open diff comment is for e30s, bar maybe the tourers, which as dave will show you can also hang the back end out on an open diff

[billgatese30]

alothough that i only have minimal experience of drifting then i can only apply the rules of common sense and my previous knowledge of car handling from other sources and R/C car driving. now i know that R/C cars are a very poor representation of handling characteristics etc however common sense dictates that in this case then the principle can be roughly applied so please don't shoot me down in flames. here goes

if you have an open diff then it can be sometimes difficult to hold the engine and the car to the point where both rear wheels have lost traction for periods of time where the car doesn't have stacks of power and/or tourque. if you say had 500BHP and an open diff then i'm sure it would be easy to hold the car and engine to the point where both wheels have no traction for sustained periods of time. in a car where power levels are lower, say 135BHP, then holding both wheels at this rate is much more difficult and where a LSD has an advantage by lcoking the drive to both wheels, therefore both losing grip simultainiously. however the 500BHP car may be easy to control compared to the 135BHP car, the 500BHP car may still advantage from a LSD but to a lesser extent than the 135BHP car.

if anyone doesn't quite get what i'm trying to say or dissagrees with me then let me know and i'll try and clear everything up.

[Demlotcrew]

Okay put my open diff back on today took her for a spin, round i go second gear flor it and shitttttttttttttttttttttt 200 deg spin and she stalls.

Didnt hit anything but it was too close i need to get a LSD but i need a small case 4.10 i dont think i like the 3.91 big case on a 318is.

[Karan]

Okay put my open diff back on today took her for a spin, round i go second gear flor it and sh*t 200 deg spin and she stalls.

Didnt hit anything but it was too close i need to get a LSD but i need a small case 4.10 i dont think i like the 3.91 big case on a 318is.

that my friend is cos of open diff wrongness and ure excessive rear anti roll bars which are no help in the already snatchy 4 pots

[Davenotouring]

I think the touring is easier to drift, or mine is anyway.

I would like to put it down to my immense driving skill, but I don't think that's the case!

Saloons are much lighter at the back, and once it's going you have to be quick!

Not much more open diff wrongness for me!!

[SwirlyE30]

Yeh i can deffinatly attest to the touring being eaiser to drift.At least from a passengers point of view, feels a lot more stable.Dave certainly knows how the keep the end out in it! great fun!

[Jhonno]

my 316i auto slides ok... in the wet

[Guest]

its on torrent i think

search 'drift' in www.isohunt.com or something like that

660mb i think

Karan

schweet TY Karan

[Demlotcrew]

Okay put my open diff back on today took her for a spin, round i go second gear flor it and sh*t 200 deg spin and she stalls.

Didnt hit anything but it was too close i need to get a LSD but i need a small case 4.10 i dont think i like the 3.91 big case on a 318is.

that my friend is cos of open diff wrongness and ure excessive rear anti roll bars which are no help in the already snatchy 4 pots

If anything i should get underteer with my current setup.

Yeah i know about the diff too. Its too wrong!

[Widge]

Hi Guys,
I have downloaded the torrent Drift bible thingy but I then don't know what to do with it cos it's on my hard disk as a file with a . torrent extension not an avi. ?????????????????????????/
What to do???

[Davenotouring]

if you have an open diff then it can be sometimes difficult to hold the engine and the car to the point where both rear wheels have lost traction for periods of time where the car doesn't have stacks of power and/or tourque. if you say had 500BHP and an open diff then i'm sure it would be easy to hold the car and engine to the point where both wheels have no traction for sustained periods of time. in a car where power levels are lower, say 135BHP, then holding both wheels at this rate is much more difficult and where a LSD has an advantage by lcoking the drive to both wheels, therefore both losing grip simultainiously. however the 500BHP car may be easy to control compared to the 135BHP car, the 500BHP car may still advantage from a LSD but to a lesser extent than the 135BHP car.

if anyone doesn't quite get what i'm trying to say or dissagrees with me then let me know and i'll try and clear everything up.

I pretty much agree with this. Although in certain cases even the 500bhp monster would just be bouncing off the limiter with the inside wheel smoking up because it's the easier one to turn because the weight of the car is on the outside wheel in a corner. If the grip levels were lower, like in the wet, then what you've said if spot on basically.

[Karan]

u mst download a client manager like 'burst client manager' (search this and download it in google). then when u open that file u downloaded it will open the new burst programme automatically and it will then start the actual transfer which will take a while, depending on how many peers u have.

i dunno if this is right as my mate set my torrent stuff up for me as im shit on computers

Karan

[Widge]

Cheers I'll give it a try

[Widge]

8 hours to go !!!!
Oh well.
Does anyone know how to make my signature work???

[SwirlyE30]

Do you think its possible to do much in a 318i? I dont want to wreck my car, only had it 2 days!! But ive managed to get the back wheels spinning easily enough in the wet (empty carparks etc), i went into a big open carpark, poped it in first, reved till about 4k and just put full lock on, not really knowing what to expect, but nothing happened about from turning very quickly lol