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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:25 pm

Started to tighten my exhaust manifold.
Which ment removing the HT leads etc and I swear I put them back right .
Now it won't start?
Sounds like it has a killswitch somewhere but never before.
What could it be?
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:33 pm

Did you disturb the king lead?
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:34 pm

What's that?
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:36 pm

I reckon it's your alarm ........
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:37 pm

That shit don't work.
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:44 pm

Am I ment to put a lead on first?
I unplugged the 2 things below the HT leads that plug into the coil pack I'm sure I put them back how they came off .
Would that cause it not to run?
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:19 pm

Tomorrow I'll just unplug the alarm then all sorted.
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:24 pm

Which engine do you have? I would imagine that the coil pack is polarised, so quite important to fit the LT leads the correct way round.
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:24 pm

M42. I fitted the leads correctly as they were numbered.
All ran before just needed the manifold doing up.
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:35 pm

If you don't fit the ht leads the right way round , what will happen ?
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:40 pm

It will usually run, but roughly, as if it's out of balance.
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:41 pm

But this has a coil pack not a distributor.
So should run fine shouldn't it.
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:43 pm

Yes, but unless the firing order is correct, it won't run properly.

Try removing an HT lead, fit a spare spark plug into it and rest the plug on a metal (earthed) part of the engine, then crank it over and check if it sparks.
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:44 pm

Yes they all spark that's where I'm stumped and all getting fuel.
But doesn't wanna run even Though it has original ht leads with the numbers printed on them.
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:53 pm

In that case, perhaps you've flooded it? May be worth leaving it for a few hours, perhaps with the spark plugs removed.

Alternatively, crank the engine over while spraying carb or brake cleaner down the throttle body.
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:55 pm

Ok tomorrow I'll try that.
Going cinema later and I'm not at home right now.
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:14 pm

BROOMY wrote:M42. I fitted the leads correctly as they were numbered.
All ran before just needed the manifold doing up.

M42 you say ? Now it is all starting to make sense......
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:15 pm

Something I missed?
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Post Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:37 pm

I feel stupid but the plugs were soaked.
On any of my bikes this never happened but maybe coz my bikes were carbed.
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Post Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:44 pm

So you managed to get it started?
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Post Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:46 pm

Yes.
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Post Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:54 pm

Good to hear that. :)
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Post Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:55 pm

Tightened a stud and it came out.
So tomorrow get some lock tite n bang it back in there .
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Post Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:00 pm

Studs aren't held in by Loctite, they're held in by threads - things which I think you'll find are missing in your head behind this particular stud.
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Post Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:10 pm

Didn't just come out was loose undone by hand so that's why I plan on redoing it tomorrow .
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Post Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:12 pm

You'll probably need more than plain Loctite - try thread lock. :wink:

http://www.loctite.co.uk/threadlocking-4476.htm
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Post Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:50 pm

How deep are the threads in the head from the exhaust ?
Are the exhaust ment to have a spacer sort of thing?( a silver plate thing) not the gasket , it's thicker than that
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Post Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:30 am

What about if the threads are stripped what should I do?
Bit awarded to helicoil it as it's on a freshly fitted head I believe.
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Post Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:50 am

You could try using a tap & die set to re-cut the thread, or you may have to drill it out and re-tap it to the next size up.
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Post Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:52 am

I'll hope for the best tomorrow and report back.
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Post Tue May 03, 2016 6:51 pm

It doesn't seem to run again .
Plugs are dry fuel pump doesn't click need help
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Post Tue May 03, 2016 9:02 pm

Sounds like it could be a duff crank position sensor, or the fuse to the ECU/fuel pump has blown.
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Post Wed May 04, 2016 10:12 am

But wouldn't a diff crank sensor not allot it to spark aswell as the engine not knowing its position
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Post Wed May 04, 2016 10:23 am

You haven't said whether you have sparks or not.
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Post Wed May 04, 2016 3:53 pm

Oh sorry yes I do.