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Post Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:19 pm

My project is nearing its end .
Anyone know the ins and out of getting it road legal.
Do I need to get a vic check ?



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Post Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:28 pm

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Post Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:02 pm

AFAIK, just tax and insure it as normal. If it's had an engine capacity change, you're supposed to notify the DVLA in case it changes it's road tax banding (which it won't), but I advise you not to bother.
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Post Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:28 pm

Look up BIVA testing that replaces the old 8 point system testing I'm not an expert on it only had dealings with the hotrod world when building stuff but I would think it will need a check of some sorts with body mods on a monocoque ( sp?) Chassis .......but as bri says I would just drive it and worry when/ if you find a chewy copper ..never got any bother in the hotrods with roof chops and all sorts.
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Post Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:31 pm

If chassis has not been modified, then it only needs an MOT.
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Post Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:49 pm

GB69 wrote:If chassis has not been modified, then it only needs an MOT.
True, but this is a monocoque, and a significant area of 'chassis' stiffening has been modified - one bulkhead has been removed, and replaced by two.
I'd stay well away from BIVA testing until told otherwise.
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Post Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:36 am

Cheers guys.
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Post Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:11 am

I'd be interested to hear what your insurance co. have to say. I've spoken to one guy who converted an E34 to a pickup, but he was always a little quiet when insurance was mentioned, either because it cost a fortune or he didn't tell them...
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Post Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:05 am

jmc330i wrote:I'd be interested to hear what your insurance co. have to say.

You and me both . I,m expecting a shock when I do come to the time to phone them.
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Post Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:10 pm

That's right in BIVA territory.

Vosa will take one look at that and say fuck me that's a Q plate.

Best thing to do is to pull up a copy of the BIVA manual and start preparing for the test now, you want to be ready when they do pull it up.
Any car built after about 1970 with a full body should be able to pass fairly easily but there are subtleties that require some work, like the wiring.

The insurance company will go one of three ways, they either won't touch it, won't bat an eyelid and insure it as normal or if they know what they are doing won't insure it until it is on a Q plate.


I always wonder why people start these projects without checking the implications of what they are doing first.
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Post Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:36 pm

Brianmoooore wrote: If it's had an engine capacity change, you're supposed to notify the DVLA in case it changes it's road tax banding (which it won't), but I advise you not to bother.

Really?


I would have thought not declaring modifications (engine change etc) would invalidate any insurance? Hefty penalties if caught.
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Post Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:47 pm

To your insurance company.

Not telling the DVLA is "only" tax evasion.
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Post Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:11 pm

HairyScreech wrote:That's right in BIVA territory.

Vosa will take one look at that and say **** me that's a Q plate.

Best thing to do is to pull up a copy of the BIVA manual and start preparing for the test now, you want to be ready when they do pull it up.
Any car built after about 1970 with a full body should be able to pass fairly easily but there are subtleties that require some work, like the wiring.

The insurance company will go one of three ways, they either won't touch it, won't bat an eyelid and insure it as normal or if they know what they are doing won't insure it until it is on a Q plate.


I always wonder why people start these projects without checking the implications of what they are doing first.

I took the project on after the previous owner had already finished the bodywork but lost his work space .I did think about the implication of getting it road legal at the time which wasn't to long ago.
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:09 am

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HairyScreech wrote:That's right in BIVA territory.

Vosa will take one look at that and say **** me that's a Q plate.

Best thing to do is to pull up a copy of the BIVA manual and start preparing for the test now, you want to be ready when they do pull it up.
Any car built after about 1970 with a full body should be able to pass fairly easily but there are subtleties that require some work, like the wiring.

The insurance company will go one of three ways, they either won't touch it, won't bat an eyelid and insure it as normal or if they know what they are doing won't insure it until it is on a Q plate.


I always wonder why people start these projects without checking the implications of what they are doing first.

I took the project on after the previous owner had already finished the bodywork but lost his work space .I did think about the implication of getting it road legal at the time which wasn't to long ago.
Fair enough, your a brave man taking on someone else's half finished pick up.

Do you know the ins and outs of whats been done to the chassis?

As I say, the BIVA manual is your bible on this when the time comes to get it sorted.
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:49 am

Jake I would take a punt on an MOT with a friendly tester. VOSA might not like it but there are a few of these E30's/E34's/E36's around with normal plates on. VOSA lads only get involved if you volunteer info about weird cars.....the less they know the better. Insurers won't give a fuck as long as they get their usual pound of flesh for nothing.

My only issue with it is the dodgy overhang on the roof.....I would have it dropping right off to the bed myself.

Well done for taking it on....would like to see it one day.
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:13 am

HairyScreech wrote:
shedrool83 wrote:
HairyScreech wrote:That's right in BIVA territory.

Vosa will take one look at that and say **** me that's a Q plate.

Best thing to do is to pull up a copy of the BIVA manual and start preparing for the test now, you want to be ready when they do pull it up.
Any car built after about 1970 with a full body should be able to pass fairly easily but there are subtleties that require some work, like the wiring.

The insurance company will go one of three ways, they either won't touch it, won't bat an eyelid and insure it as normal or if they know what they are doing won't insure it until it is on a Q plate.


I always wonder why people start these projects without checking the implications of what they are doing first.

I took the project on after the previous owner had already finished the bodywork but lost his work space .I did think about the implication of getting it road legal at the time which wasn't to long ago.
Fair enough, your a brave man taking on someone else's half finished pick up.

Do you know the ins and outs of whats been done to the chassis?

As I say, the BIVA manual is your bible on this when the time comes to get it sorted.
It was a family member that started it and I was helping him with it here and there so I know exactly what has been done.

I have pictures of the build as well incase they were needed .
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:16 am

nickso wrote:Jake I would take a punt on an MOT with a friendly tester. VOSA might not like it but there are a few of these E30's/E34's/E36's around with normal plates on. VOSA lads only get involved if you volunteer info about weird cars.....the less they know the better. Insurers won't give a **** as long as they get their usual pound of flesh for nothing.

My only issue with it is the dodgy overhang on the roof.....I would have it dropping right off to the bed myself.

Well done for taking it on....would like to see it one day.

I kind of like the over hang Nick.I would have had the wheel wells lower if I had done the bodywork myself.
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:22 pm

I built this a while ago and went round the houses with the DVLA to have it registered as a 2 seat pickup, I needed a full report inc pictures to show what and how it had been done before they would release the V5. The insurance was easy and no problems at all with all modifications declared.
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:26 pm

shedrool83 wrote: I have pictures of the build as well incase they were needed .
Lets see em then :)
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:37 pm

Neilios wrote:I built this a while ago and went round the houses with the DVLA to have it registered as a 2 seat pickup, I needed a full report inc pictures to show what and how it had been done before they would release the V5. The insurance was easy and no problems at all with all modifications declared.
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:04 pm

That disco makes the e30 look awesome! What a nice thread this is turning into with so much win! Need some Baur action to complete the winness
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Post Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:41 pm

The landrover is a totally different matter. It will be simply classed as a rebody because no modifications to the structure of the chassis have been made.

In the case of the e30 the unibody is considered to be the chassis and thus it becomes an IVA issues.

Is there a build thread for the E30?
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Post Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:03 pm

HairyScreech wrote:

Is there a build thread for the E30?
I would be interested to see this if there is.....
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Post Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:24 pm

cant see a problem with the MOT but when it comes to insurance and they ask is there any modifications you have got to say other wise it will be void, there are companies that specialise in this sort of thing.
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Post Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:26 am

G-Bear wrote:
HairyScreech wrote:

Is there a build thread for the E30?
I would be interested to see this if there is.....
No there hasn't been a build thread .
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Post Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:16 pm

shedrool83 wrote:
G-Bear wrote:
HairyScreech wrote:

Is there a build thread for the E30?
I would be interested to see this if there is.....
No there hasn't been a build thread .
I too would like to see a bit more detail of this build,please!
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Post Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:59 pm

pacerpete wrote:
Neilios wrote:I built this a while ago and went round the houses with the DVLA to have it registered as a 2 seat pickup, I needed a full report inc pictures to show what and how it had been done before they would release the V5. The insurance was easy and no problems at all with all modifications declared.
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Post Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:05 pm

daimlerman wrote:
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G-Bear wrote: I would be interested to see this if there is.....
No there hasn't been a build thread .
I too would like to see a bit more detail of this build,please!
The zone isn't a place to post build threads like this they just end up in slagging matches unfortunately which I can't be bothered with atm.
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Post Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:36 pm

I got lots of supportive comments in my resto thread, and it really helped me crack on when I thought it was getting overwhelming. This place isn't always bitching and retardation.

Anyway, the OP isn't the one who built the car, so it's a moot point - there's no possibility of a build thread.
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Post Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:14 pm

Grrrmachine wrote:I got lots of supportive comments in my resto thread, and it really helped me crack on when I thought it was getting overwhelming. This place isn't always bitching and retardation.

Anyway, the OP isn't the one who built the car, so it's a moot point - there's no possibility of a build thread.
I can see the OP's POV,he posts something just a bit different,and all the hater's come crawling out of the woodwork and he feels that he has to justify his actions.This,in the opinion of our leader's is seen as a wonderful oppotunity to use the banning stick,to ban the OP,not those hater's!
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Post Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:37 pm

Malc, I should ban you for repeated apostrophe abuse but alas, I don't have the jailer's keys :D
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Post Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:45 pm

Grrrmachine wrote:Malc, I should ban you for repeated apostrophe abuse but alas, I don't have the jailer's keys :D
You what?

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