Hartge (Zender) sideskirts, what are they worth?

[DmcL]

pair of sideskirts i bought just arrived today.. they were advertised as zender skirts but i just discovered they are actually hartge skirts going by images found on google.

quickly mounted and rattle-canned one of them to give myself a rough idea of how they will look on the car, you can see the recessed bit at the front where a wee hartge badge goes:



speaking of the wee hartge badge thats missing, where would i obtain 2 of those? both skirts are missing them.

[pukar]

if you can get a pic of an original, i can make then up for you. just let me know the dimensions of the recess.

i already do Mtech 1 & 2 stickers

[DmcL]

funny you mention that.. i found a couple pics on google earlier this evening.

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/2544 ... 301195.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2663/i ... 301193.jpg

can you do the raised enamel type things or is it vinyl/printed only?

[magpie]

i have a pair of zenda ones if your still looking ?

[DmcL]

zenda? haha

honestly i dunno what im looking for. i have seen most of the various cool looking E30 kits over the years but only lately thought about putting some sort of kit on mine aside from the tech 1 spoiler and 318is splitter the cars got already. i wasnt thinking id get these skirts as they were on ebay but i put a starting bid on them and forgot about it then got an email a couple days ago invoicing for payment so i won them at the start price thinking they were zender skirts then they turn out to be hartge..

having mounted one of these skirts and quickly canning it with a colour loosely resembling th colour of the car i think they look pretty nice on it.

[Topblag]

The Schnitzer skirts are the same. Not really sought after because they are really plain when fitted. I've recently trial fitted a set to a H26 and they don't look great.

[magpie]

zenda? haha

honestly i dunno what im looking for. i have seen most of the various cool looking E30 kits over the years but only lately thought about putting some sort of kit on mine aside from the tech 1 spoiler and 318is splitter the cars got already. i wasnt thinking id get these skirts as they were on ebay but i put a starting bid on them and forgot about it then got an email a couple days ago invoicing for payment so i won them at the start price thinking they were zender skirts then they turn out to be hartge..

having mounted one of these skirts and quickly canning it with a colour loosely resembling th colour of the car i think they look pretty nice on it.

zender then

[DmcL]

jeez tough crowd

any pics? how much you wanting for them out of curiosity?

[spook]

Hartge side skirts do not have stickers, The Hartge logo is part of the side skirt if ya get my drift.

Well they are on my car

[pacerpete]

Hartge side skirts do not have stickers, The Hartge logo is part of the side skirt if ya get my drift.

Well they are on my car

This. The Hartge logo is moulded with the skirt out of a fooooking heavy lump of rubbery stuff

[DmcL]

skirts are rubbery but theres no sign of anything moulded in that recessed bit.. there is branding on the bottom of the skirt along with left and right in german. ill have to sand back some of the paint on the bottom and see what it says as you cant read it under all the various layers of paint.

also on some of the hartge cars i looked at on google there is no recessed bit like on these skirts.. maybe theres couple variations that were done over the years?

[Topblag]

also on some of the hartge cars i looked at on google there is no recessed bit like on these skirts.. maybe theres couple variations that were done over the years?

Doubt it. Every piece of hartge bodykit I've seen has either Hartge or the model number on it and they are stamped, not stickers.

[DmcL]

yea id expect it to have the name on it somewhere but i mean i saw some that dont appear to have the little recessed bit on the side.. there is branding on the skirts but i cant read it throught the layers of paint.. ill pop out to the shed and strip some off so i can read it.. sort out what brand they are for good

[DmcL]

ok i scraped off the paint on the bottom where the branding is and they actually are zender skirts.. oddly they look just like hartge skirts though. cant really find any images of a zender skirt that look like these so ill have to troll google some more and try and find out what the story is with these skirts. maybe zender made copies of hartge skirts or zender and hartge shared moulds at some point?

the skirts look identical to these but are clearly branded zender underneath:


bit off googling and it seems these are older zender skirts as the later skirts had bits on either end that went like 1/4 the way up the arch.

[jonny323i]

http://www.e30zone.net/e30zonewiki/imag ... 991_01.jpg

on the wiki page under brochures

[DmcL]

yea seen those pics which is what got me thinking they must be hartge skirts but they are definately branded zender underneath the skirts. any idea why zender put out a skirt that is identical to the hartge skirt? did zender make the skirts for hartge or something?

[jonny323i]

I think ac schnizer used them too

[verde]

They look fine enough, pretty non objectionable id say

[DmcL]

yea but im trying to figure out why they are identical to hartge skirts but clearly branded zender. there must have been some mould sharing or something going on back in the day?

also after googling schntzer skirts for the E30 they seem identical to some of the schnitzer items also, allbeit without the recessed bit on the side of the skirt where the hartge ones have their branding and where my zenders have nothing..