easy engine swaps??

[taylorstattoo]

hay all ..

i would like to upgrade my car with a bigger lump up front and was hoping to by a whole car so that i would have everything i need, thinking 4.0v8 or similar but they all seen to be auto`s and i have no idear if this will all fit in and hook up easy`ish,, any idears other than the norm 2.5 e36 lumps,
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thanks, steve..

[turk]

whats your budget?

[taylorstattoo]

iv seen a few old big engien 5/6 series befor for about £6/700 but now there are none lol,, about a £1000 is my top end..

[magpie]

easy engine swaps ......

thinking 4.0v8 or similar

thanks, steve..

good luck.

1k wont cover an m50/m52 swap

[Grrrmachine]

Buying the engine is only a fraction of the cost of an engine swap. Even if you can pick up an M50/M52 engine for a few hundred quid, it's still going to be closer to 2k to get it fitted, and that's doing all the labour yourself.

[taylorstattoo]

lol , i know there not easy but some of you guys on here go to the extream, i know i will need to rewire, new mounts, mod engien bay and exhaurst ect, but some do fit better than others.. know what i mean??

i dont want to have to be getting a gear box from one car diff from another ect ect

[gman1]

S14......

[taylorstattoo]

surly if there is a swap where everthing comes from one car, and i can buy this car for under a grand then i can do all the work and job done,,

[magpie]

what engine are you running at the moment ?

[taylorstattoo]

its a 318i,,

[taylorstattoo]

can you tell me what car as i dont know all the numbers,, m50 s12 ???/ ?/ im new to all this,

[magpie]

forget any plans about not needing a diff , gearbox,prop .

the 4.10 diff you have fitted will lunch itself on anything over 150 bhp or there abouts.

[taylorstattoo]

can you not fit the diff and prop from what ever car im getting the engien from??

[pacerpete]

can you not fit the diff and prop from what ever car im getting the engien from??

Any pics of your tatts ? We all love a bit of ink around here

[Grrrmachine]

The only car you can buy where all the parts swap over is another E30. So the engine will be the M20B25.

If you buy a parts car E36 you can rob the M50 engine and gearbox, but you will still need a prop and diff from somewhere else, an exhaust system made up of custom components, a lot of wiring to do yourself plus all the brake and suspension upgrades to stop you crashing it on the first corner.

And that's considered an "easy" swap. Something like the M3 or M5 engines (S60) will financially destroy you, and a V8 conversion will take months.

These are 1.5 tonne metal death machines, not lego kits

[FinalD]

Any pics of your tatts ? We all love a bit of ink around here

Genuinely laughed, thanks.


Is that pic at Davidstowe or is it just another abandoned airfield?

[snakebrain]

i have no idear if this will all fit in and hook up easy`ish

Short answer - it won't.

Your basic options are:

S14 - E30 M3 engine. Forget it, you can't afford it.

M42 - this is the 1.8 16v engine from the mighty 318iS. It would definitely make a standard 318i a lot nippier, but it's no V8.

M20 B25 - the 2.5 engine from an E30 325i. On your budget this is probably the one to go for as the car was available in this spec so you can use used factory components for everything. If you're feeling adventurous you can rebuild this engine up to 2.8l..

M50/M52 - the engine from an E36/late E34/E39. The 2.8 (M52B28) is the one to go for, but as this engine never came in a standard E30 it's a lot more involved to install. Think about engine mounts, exhaust manifolds, propshaft modification, new diff etc..

M60 B40 - this is the 4.0 V8 you're thinking about. Manual gearboxes are available but are expensive and rare. Your £1000 budget should just cover the cost of engine and box. It's a bloody big engine to squeeze into an E30 engine bay, and unless you're completely happy fabricating custom exhaust manifolds, engine mounts and happen to be a nifty auto electrician as well, it's out of your league.

Now bugger off and read the engine swaps section and the wiki from front to back before you ask anything else.

[magpie]

These are 1.5 tonne metal death machines, not lego kits

exactly,don't expect to nail a v8 in there and walk away

although you may end up doing a lot of walking if it doesn't start

[taylorstattoo]

yeah thats davidstow,, thanks for info,, abit gutted though,, really want the m60 i think? ?4.0 v8 but if there is no way of using its other components, diff, prop, ect then ill have to rethink.. as iv got small budget and want it done over the winter buy the way this car is not a show winner its more like mad max lol so it would not matter if thing were not the norm

you want to see my ink or my work lol thought that was a chat up line for a min.. lol

[Grrrmachine]

If you want a Mad Max dirty smoking thunder engine swap, look for an old M30 engine. They went up to 3.5 litres, and are relatively easy to fit to the E30 (compared to some "newer" engines). Lots of tried-and-tested documented info too.

[taylorstattoo]

oooooohhhhhh,, bloody hell,,

i started to piss my myself when i read s14/e30m3.. you cant afford it,, very true..the rest was ok but then you turned your self into a i aint got time for this.. ASS HOLE,, if you have better things to do mate then help out other e30 lovers,
that, yes, might be new TO this and slightly boring with there lack of no how, then just fuck off and do your more important stuff ,, i did not make you read this and respond.. YES I CAN WIRE THE SHIT OUT OF YOUR MOTHER IF I WANTED,YES I CAN WELD, ANYBODY CAN MAKE A MANIFOLD AND EXHAUST.. AND ANY BODY THAT REALLY NEW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP..

DICK HEAD... YOU REALLY HAVE GRIPPED MY SHIT..

[magpie]

you want to see my ink or my work lol thought that was a chat up line for a min.. lol

you never know with Pete,it's all down to what uniform you wear

ok to start with your car has the larger 51mm struts and rear discs so that's the only bonus you have.

what about an m30 535i conversion .???

[DanThe]

oooooohhhhhh,, bloody hell,,

i started to pee pee my myself when i read s14/e30m3.. you cant afford it,, very true..the rest was ok but then you turned your self into a i aint got time for this.. ASS HOLE,, if you have better things to do mate then help out other e30 lovers,
that, yes, might be new TO this and slightly boring with there lack of no how, then just **** off and do your more important stuff ,, i did not make you read this and respond.. YES I CAN WIRE THE SHIT OUT OF YOUR MOTHER IF I WANTED,YES I CAN WELD, ANYBODY CAN MAKE A MANIFOLD AND EXHAUST.. AND ANY BODY THAT REALLY NEW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP..

DICK HEAD... YOU REALLY HAVE GRIPPED MY SHIT..

Dont take it so personally, its not like your the only one

[snakebrain]

YES I CAN WIRE THE SHIT OUT OF YOUR MOTHER IF I WANTED,YES I CAN WELD, ANYBODY CAN MAKE A MANIFOLD AND EXHAUST.. AND ANY BODY THAT REALLY NEW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP..

DICK HEAD... YOU REALLY HAVE GRIPPED MY SHIT..

Is he talking to me?

I think you meant to say, 'Thank you for the information, Mr Snakebrain. It was very helpful, especially as I'm too useless a cnut to find the engine swaps section and do a bit of reading for myself. However, as you know I'm a delusional fuckwit who thinks I can buy and install a v8 in my E30 for £50 and a packet of wine gums and so you can't expect me to appreciate it when people spend their time trying to help me.'

[magpie]

oooooohhhhhh,, bloody hell,,

i started to pee pee my myself when i read s14/e30m3.. you cant afford it,, very true..the rest was ok but then you turned your self into a i aint got time for this.. ASS HOLE,, if you have better things to do mate then help out other e30 lovers,
that, yes, might be new TO this and slightly boring with there lack of no how, then just **** off and do your more important stuff ,, i did not make you read this and respond.. YES I CAN WIRE THE SHIT OUT OF YOUR MOTHER IF I WANTED,YES I CAN WELD, ANYBODY CAN MAKE A MANIFOLD AND EXHAUST.. AND ANY BODY THAT REALLY NEW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP..

DICK HEAD... YOU REALLY HAVE GRIPPED MY SHIT..

you'll get nowhere faster this way.

[taylorstattoo]

HA HA LOL,, AT LEAST IV GOT A LAUGH TONIGHT.. TO YOU, MR DICK HEAD, maybe you should catch up on your reading skills as it clearly say`s, your info started of good before you lost intrest and stared being a cock.it also says iv got up to a grand to spend on a dona car which there are shit loads of.. i can do the work myself, over the winter, but was looking for someone who might have done something like this before for some help in choosing the right dona,,, ahhh fu** it i can be bothered ,,

To other helpfull chaps thanks,, m30 535i ??? what is involve with this? can i use everthing from the one car?

And no i cant be bothered right now to look though pages of info when i dont know what im looking for... lol

[snakebrain]

HA HA LOL,, AT LEAST IV GOT A LAUGH TONIGHT.. TO YOU, MR DICK HEAD, maybe you should catch up on your reading skills as it clearly say`s, your info started of good before you lost intrest and stared being a c**k.

On the bright side, it's good to see a girl who's ready to take on her own engine conversion, especially when she's got PMT.

[taylorstattoo]

lol. stop flirting with me and help... lol

[snakebrain]

lol. stop flirting with me and help... lol

Show us your tattoo collection and if you've got facial ones, I'll think about it.

[magpie]

Lee parks or Rav on here can help you out .they both run m30's .

mention anything m30 in the title and you will get a bite,

you know how to edit the thread title

[taylorstattoo]

i think so,, thanks .. so would this be the 535 with round lights like your pic..? or more modern??

[magpie]

you want an e34 535i,i think the sump fits straight in so that's a start.

[taylorstattoo]

sweet, nice one mate,,

[magpie]

no worries cpt'n

[Nobby_N]

Any pics of your tatts ? We all love a bit of ink around here

Genuinely laughed, thanks.


Is that pic at Davidstowe or is it just another abandoned airfield?

Me too! soon as i saw this thread open i thought of Pete lol