before we start, i'd just like to say i am aware of how futile it is saying this sort of thing on an e30 site...
dsio wrote:Japan has that law where older cars are forced off the road. Australia is the only wealthy right hand drive country near japan, so we are their dumping ground for cars that are worth exporting. Through an importer than I know, an R32 GTS-T 2.0 is worth less than my 1985 318i. There are many times more skylines here than E30s at this stage.
that is comparing almost base spec models to be honest - only thing lower than a gts-t is a gts. but i'm curious, what sort of prices are we talking about here? and what sort of condition? you have to admit a concours 318i can attract some good money, and almost certainly more than a base spec poor condition (if that is the case) r32 gts-t. a good condition r32 gts-t in england would cost you maybe 2-3k, possibly 4k.
dsio wrote:Its a poser thing, everyone thinks they have a special edition GT-R even if its just a 2L. Because they are so cheap, the welfare lot buy them up, sticker them, and play fast and the furious in public housing areas.
This is a fair point, there is an AWFUL lot of base model skylines dressed as gt-r's. E30's get this too, but i'd say a lot less.
dsio wrote:I imagine the English Japanese tuners would not be that expensive, but the Americans pay 5 times the money we do on any import tuners.
You do get to pay quite a bit here, not sure of american import tuners (the scene's quite big so you'd expect it to be relatively competitive). Where they suffer is in importing them in the first place - an r32 gt-r that costs no more than Ԛ£10k here will sell for Ԛ£30k upwards in the US, because of the difficulty registering them (one company has done it, and they keep the secrets to themselves as it involved performing their own crash tests - amongst other things - at great cost!). Agreed jap prices are a bit cheaper.
dsio wrote:Its the common nature of them that lead me to want another BMW. I have never, ever been dissed or laughed at for having an E30. Skyline owners here have to live with that daily.
I'd say it's the opposite here, there are many more E30s than skylines. It doesn't help with the rather insane insurance you get on almost all skylines (they tend to be grouped together - in group 20 - for any model).
I don't know who owns them (% chav, etc lol) but that's really open to guessing, no one person knows this.
pacerpete wrote:A sorted r32 skyline is a real hero chariot but the nasty low rent interior and the council loser sportwear clad vermin image that goes with them and other fast jap cars means i'll never own one.
the interior is pretty japanese, which means lots of plastic - they poured the money into the car itself. the e30 interior is better, but not that much better - it's not a 7 series
Karan wrote:a drift spec tourer is so much more unique than something jap
Most times i agree with you mate, but i only *sort of* here - skylines being used for drifting (in competitions, i.e. where the cars get noticed) is certainly a bit of a cliche, so in that respect the tourer would be more unique, if it was a drift tourer (hopefully going to set up the arches/wheels like a drift car then
). But saying something jap can't be more unqiue than a drift tourer? i think you could find something...
nav786 wrote:plus you will know that you built it, so it would taste even better.
that's true - e30's are like lego kits, which certainly helps. it does feel better if you know the condition, etc, of every part, and you spent your time doing it.
i'm sure i'll get lots of reasons why an e30 is better, i just have to remember i'm on an e30 site - i just keep myself open to everything rather than having 'brand loyalty'. i'd hope everyone here would do the same, but i know it's just not true...
gonna put it up mid november and see what happens
