when does a h reg stop paying road tax? becomes classic...

[Ajay_1985]

when does a h reg 1980 e30 become classed as classic so we stop paying road tax?

[toby]

It isn't yet in a rolling time frame so it is only cars that are registered prior to 1st Jan 1973 which are exempt.

[darkchild]

It doesn't. Vehicles manufactured before 1973 are exempt.

[Falkster]

NEVER!!!

[SDM]

Photocopy a friends.

[david106]

your lovely old liebour gimps put an end to that hopefully dave and nick will sort it out

[SDM]

Yeah, it's top of their vagenda I'm sure...

Just like proportional represnentation was and that got in, oh wait a minute, it didn't.
Fail.

[march109]

Yeah, it's top of their vagenda I'm sure...

Just like proportional represnentation was and that got in, oh wait a minute, it didn't.
Fail.

Having read the agreement between the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats I know should they keep their deal we shall be having a referendum on this.

Proportional representation was infact completely opposed by the conservatives.

Therefore not so Fail!

Even though the conservatives were the party that brought in rolling tax exempt status in the first place they will never re-instate it, it doesn't fit in with their misguided views of a green policy, and this is one area where the Lib Dems and Tories are hand in hand.

I expect it to infact get harder and harder to run older cars soon since it will require rediculous amounts of bureaucracy to continue. Its already harder to put modern engines into older cars and stay 100% within the rules.

[mhuk]

It isn't yet in a rolling time frame so it is only cars that are registered prior to 1st Jan 1973 which are exempt.

Tell me about it! I got a 1973 Spitfire all restored and a bloody tax disk ! grrrwlll

[Simon13]

labour binned this rule in 97, the tools. such a shame for the classic car scene, its such a small number of cars in the grand scale of things also

[Rodderz]

Why should an old car be on the road tax free?

[SDM]

It isn't yet in a rolling time frame so it is only cars that are registered prior to 1st Jan 1973 which are exempt.

Tell me about it! I got a 1973 Spitfire all restored and a bloody tax disk ! grrrwlll

find a scrap one from 72 and swap the plates, job done.

[SDM]

Yeah, it's top of their vagenda I'm sure...

Just like proportional represnentation was and that got in, oh wait a minute, it didn't.
Fail.

Having read the agreement between the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats I know should they keep their deal we shall be having a referendum on this.

I thought the referendum was on a move to alternative vote system not proportional representation?
Two different systems?

[m0gsia]

Political discussion are not allowed by forum rules?

[Alex]

i was told conservitives want to bring Rolling classic car tax back ???

[SDM]

i was told conservitives want to bring Rolling classic car tax back ???

who by?

[Grrrmachine]

Very few countries support rolling classic car status*, because it disincentivises people to buy new cars (which keeps manufacturing going.) Considering Britain has hardly any car manufacturing any more, it does seem daft.

As for the green argument; there's evidence (not proof) that manufacturing a new car every eight years is far more polluting that continuing to use an older, inefficient engine. A 24 year old car (so any chrome E30, for example) has prevented two polyplastic modern shitters from being produced, driven, scrapped and dumped in landfill, which arguably outweighs the CO2 the ropey old M40 pumps out.

If you want to expect anything over the next five years, it's for the pollution-based tax bands for modern cars to be retroactively applied to older cars too, so if anything you'll be paying MORE tax on your H-plate E30 in the future, not less.

*Poland does, fingers up to all of you

[Alex]

i was told conservitives want to bring Rolling classic car tax back ???

who by?

my mums partner said he read it in a classic car mag?

[Felix79]

Can you not have an Authenticity test done on the car once it is 25 years old. If it is 98% orginal it can become tax exempt?

[Grrrmachine]

It hasn't worked like that since 1998!

Classic Car weekly ran a story that the Tories MIGHT re-instate the rolling 25 years policy, but this is MIGHT, not WILL, and can be attributed as one of those broad statements used by politicians of all parties just to test the waters on the public's attitude to road tax. It will lead to nought.

[Cotty]

Why should an old car be on the road tax free?

Because they usually do sod all milage so why should they pay the same tax a a rep doing 25k a year.

I do less that 3K in mine a year, why should I pay full whack?

[Grrrmachine]

Because the other variable tax is the fuel duty; a rep doing 25k will pump in eight times more tax than you doing 3k, so the fairest thing is for everyone to pay SOMETHING to start with. If we went on fuel duty alone, those little old ladies pottering to the shops each Sunday wouldn't even pay for the tarmac outside their house, in a year.

[jmc330i]

It isn't yet in a rolling time frame so it is only cars that are registered prior to 1st Jan 1973 which are exempt.

Tell me about it! I got a 1973 Spitfire all restored and a bloody tax disk ! grrrwlll

Unless its been changed (which it probably has), it was the construction date not the registration date that mattered. I know of at least 2 1973 cars that are Tax exempt and there was a web page for MG owners saying that they could get their '73 MGs exempt if they could prove the car was built in 1972.

I guess the Gov/DVLA may have got wise to this, but it could be worth checking out???

[Speedtouch]

Now that Ken Clarke is back in mainstream politics, maybe it may get reinstated (he introduced it in the first place). Get lobbying folks - Ken Clarke's the man to fire off your letters to!!!

[Cotty]

Because the other variable tax is the fuel duty; a rep doing 25k will pump in eight times more tax than you doing 3k, so the fairest thing is for everyone to pay SOMETHING to start with. If we went on fuel duty alone, those little old ladies pottering to the shops each Sunday wouldn't even pay for the tarmac outside their house, in a year.

You really think that road tax goes to the upkeep of the roads

[Grrrmachine]

You really think that road tax goes to the upkeep of the roads

Doesn't bother me if it does or not; I live in a country with no road tax at all