In a list of scrappage cars.

[Ollie_bwoii]

On another forum, someone posted a load of cars they'd spotted in scrap yards recently, most of which were scrappage.

In and amongst the lot was this:



And this:



Not sure if they were crashed and written off, or scrapped/scrappage etc....

[magpie]

an 8

just zoomed on the m3

[Alex]

never mind an 8

a fookin m3

[magpie]

never mind an 8

a fookin m3

had another look

[Ollie_bwoii]

I think the guy works at the scrap yard, there pics of Capri's, 900 Turbo, MGB roadster, dolomite, 635csi etc....

Cryign shame, but they M3 is the worst of the lot.

[magpie]

so m3's have no rear pop outs?

that one looks half fragged.

[N00b]

They were obviously in such a bad way that they were worth less than the scrappage allowance.....or their owners wouldve sold them privately. Especially the M3, which has such a high level of desirability that even broken up for parts they're worth more than that. There's either something not being mentioned here or the story is bogus in my opinion.

[Ollie_bwoii]

As said I don't know why the M3 was there, but it's there.

[magpie]

dont you just hate fork lift drivers

[Blitz]

nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!! Who's the plonker to who done that?

[Kos]

i doubt very much they are scrappage cars

probably just normal accident damaged cars

[N00b]

i doubt very much they are scrappage cars

probably just normal accident damaged cars

Same here. It's more likely to be a veiled attack on Labour, in my opinion. I've seen pictures of "alleged" Scrappage cars that were worth far more than the allowance even in non-running form.

[Simon]

The 8 series has had an underbonnet fire, that's pretty obvious, it has the usual fire brigade damage where they've opened the bonnet with a pry bar too.

The M3 is probably salvage as well. Somebody hide the rear lights from Pete!

[N00b]

The 8 series has had an underbonnet fire, that's pretty obvious, it has the usual fire brigade damage where they've opened the bonnet with a pry bar too.

The M3 is probably salvage as well. Somebody hide the rear lights from Pete!

I suppose you have to ask yourself, how badly would an M3 need to be damaged for the insurers to write it off?

[bss325i]

The 8 series has had an underbonnet fire, that's pretty obvious, it has the usual fire brigade damage where they've opened the bonnet with a pry bar too.

The M3 is probably salvage as well. Somebody hide the rear lights from Pete!

I suppose you have to ask yourself, how badly would an M3 need to be damaged for the insurers to write it off?

Have you seen the price of M3 parts!

Not only that, some are NLA so would also hinder a potential insurance repair.

[N00b]

Have you seen the price of M3 parts!

I totally agree, but then the next logical comment to make is "Have you seen the price of M3's?"

Not only that, some are NLA so would also hinder a potential insurance repair.

I agree that this would be a problem, but then I suppose a solution would have to be found.
Let's say M3 drivers seats are unavailable, for example.
If someone puts your window out and slashes your drivers seat with a knife, would they write the whole car off? No, they'd either have the NLA parts made/adapted from similar parts or obtain the best second hand parts they could.

[Parabola]

To be fair I saw an absolute shed of a 316 this morning, crap everything, I'd of scrapped it in a heartbeat

[M3Jim]

To be honest anyone who knows what an m3 is worth would buy it back and sell the shell on. Even if it was a total loss it would still be worth quite a lot as a track car!

[bss325i]

Have you seen the price of M3 parts!

I totally agree, but then the next logical comment to make is "Have you seen the price of M3's?"

Very true, but say the average price for one is 10k, if the repair quote came in at over half its value (which isnt hard if it has some chassis damage) the it being written off is quite likely.
It all depends on the repair costs.

Not only that, some are NLA so would also hinder a potential insurance repair.

I agree that this would be a problem, but then I suppose a solution would have to be found.
Let's say M3 drivers seats are unavailable, for example.
If someone puts your window out and slashes your drivers seat with a knife, would they write the whole car off? No, they'd either have the NLA parts made/adapted from similar parts or obtain the best second hand parts they could.[/quote]

No, insurance approved repaires wont use second hand parts as they cant guarantee the repair so if the owner gets paid out cash in lieu.

I know this as when i worked for Renault i did a year in their bodyshop and an old shape mini cooper came in for repair. It needed parts that were not available (due to Rover going under) so the customer got payed out.

[N00b]

No, insurance approved repairers wont use second hand parts as they cant guarantee the repair so if the owner gets paid out cash in lieu.

They'd either have new parts specially made, or similar new parts adapted or, if the velue of the vehicle was sufficient use the best used parts they could (unless such parts compromised the safety/integrity of the car).

How would an insurer repair a 1930's Bentley, for example, where brand new OEM parts don't exist?

[Rich_W]

No, insurance approved repairers wont use second hand parts as they cant guarantee the repair so if the owner gets paid out cash in lieu.

They'd either have new parts specially made, or similar new parts adapted or, if the velue of the vehicle was sufficient use the best used parts they could (unless such parts compromised the safety/integrity of the car).

How would an insurer repair a 1930's Bentley, for example, where brand new OEM parts don't exist?

The key phrase Barry used was "Cash in leiu" (of repair) Do try and keep up at the back!

[harry_p]

it wasnt long ago that you could pick up half decent m3s for 5-6k, back then a whack on a rear quarter would easily have been enought to write off an otherwise reasonable car. who knows what other damage it may have had?

and no, m3s don't have popout windows, they were a cost option.

[bss325i]

No, insurance approved repairers wont use second hand parts as they cant guarantee the repair so if the owner gets paid out cash in lieu.

They'd either have new parts specially made, or similar new parts adapted or, if the velue of the vehicle was sufficient use the best used parts they could (unless such parts compromised the safety/integrity of the car).

How would an insurer repair a 1930's Bentley, for example, where brand new OEM parts don't exist?

The key phrase Barry used was "Cash in leiu" (of repair) Do try and keep up at the back!

Exactly. Cash in lieu meaning you get payed some cash and then get it repaired yourself.

No major insurance approved tier A or B bodyshop will get involved with secondhand or specially made parts, just to much hassle. I know as i used to work in such a body shop.

Another example was a lotus carlton which needed a rear bumper, customer got payed cash in lieu and had to source his own (which came from BTB exhausts of M20 six branch fame funnily enough), he then paued in cash to have the repair done.

[Nay]

My dads mate swung by the other day whilst I was working on my car. I was told later by my dad that he said a woman recently scrapped a really, really clean 325i cabby through him. It was a head/HG failure. Nothing else. Was going for next to nothing otherwise.

Ironic thing was I was replacing my whole head/HG when he popped by!

What some people dump... and even worse when its a good/rare example.

[ross_jsy]

To be fair I saw an absolute shed of a 316 this morning, crap everything, I'd of scrapped it in a heartbeat

Slightly different to an m3 there!

[Parabola]

Yeah didn't realise we were talking about an M3 until after I'd posted

[Fushion_Julz]

Still some (seemingly) salavgable parts on that M3 shell...

[Andyboy]

No, insurance approved repaires wont use second hand parts as they cant guarantee the repair so if the owner gets paid out cash in lieu.

Yes and no. Insurance companies will often allow the use of used parts. A mate's 320i Coupe E36 was repaired using a secondhand headlight, bumper and front panel. It was fully comp and the assessor approved the use of parts supplied by the car's owner.

[dickster]

My dads mate swung by the other day whilst I was working on my car. I was told later by my dad that he said a woman recently scrapped a really, really clean 325i cabby through him. It was a head/HG failure. Nothing else. Was going for next to nothing otherwise.

Ironic thing was I was replacing my whole head/HG when he popped by!

What some people dump... and even worse when its a good/rare example.

Your dad's mate isn't Alan by any chance is it?

[bss325i]

No, insurance approved repaires wont use second hand parts as they cant guarantee the repair so if the owner gets paid out cash in lieu.

Yes and no. Insurance companies will often allow the use of used parts. A mate's 320i Coupe E36 was repaired using a secondhand headlight, bumper and front panel. It was fully comp and the assessor approved the use of parts supplied by the car's owner.

Yes thats because the owner supplied them. A repairer wont source secondhand parts as they cant gauruntee them.


I should have clarified that.